What is happening at Port?

[Goat Herder]

Sorry Primus, you've inherited a crap list my friend, but you've got to go. It's time for a revamp across the board - in EVERY department!

Primus has done the right thing this year, as horrible as its been to watch by playing the kids.

Where the list is at in 2-3 years time will be the factor deciding whether or not ill call for his head. Give him time port fans, next year will be much of the same.

I have no qualms with the hard-nosed approach Primus has undertaken with overlooking senior players who aren't performing and promoting the young lads. We've got to get games into these kids, absolutely.

HOWEVER, it doesn't explain why ;

* He continued to play Motlop in the first half of the season when he clearly couldn't be stuffed.
* How he couldn't find room for The Chad in a soft-bellied, under-performing unit for the vast majority of the year.
* How he failed to SPEAK to Chad Cornes for 4 weeks! If this has happened with ONE player, how many other players are being subjected to this childish, team-damaging treatment??
* That he consults with Choco, when Choco is partly (BIG part!) to blame for where the Club is at right now!
* I'm sure I could come up with more, but like the majority of our players on game day, I can't be stuffed..

IMO, appointing a Port Adelaide person who came up through the Williams era is NOT what the Club needs and was a massive mistake. The broom needs to go through the entire joint, players, coaches & board & significant changes across the board made before improvement will occur. Is it unfair that Primus is one of the fall guys? Probably. He, imself, would admit that tough decisions need to be made at this moment, so if he needs to fall on his sword for the betterment of the Club, so be it.

[Booney]

Sorry Primus, you've inherited a crap list my friend, but you've got to go.

Seriously mate, this is the biggest steaming pile I've read said about Primus on this site.

How long will you give the next bloke to get the job done?

How long do you think it takes to turn 8-9 players on a list over?

FFS. The bloke has 7 games last year ( as an interim coach ) then spent October interviewing for the job to get the nod in November. So he has had one draft and one Pre-season draft to change things around. Crikey mate, if you're not going to be patient now you might as well start following rugby....

Williams was his Premiership coach and no doubt a mentor and friend during a very succesful period, why woouldn't he consult with him? He cant ring Mick Malthouse or Kevin Sheedy, can he?

You think there is a rea$on why a Port per$on got the job?

[Goat Herder]

Pretty sure the idea of a Forum is to voice your OWN opinion..?? If you're expecting lemming-like behaviour from me blindly following the opinions of a Mod, you're sorely mistaken.

From what I've seen (IN MY OPINION), Primus is not the man for the job.

We agree to disagree. Deal with it.

[Booney]

Doesn't matter if I'm a mod or not. I strongly disagree with your thoughts, I asked you some questions ( which you didn't answer ) and that's my opinion.

[RHM 17]

A work mate received a text message from a bloke in the know at port power saying the heat is on duncanson from other board members and expect maybe bruce abernethy to get involved.the board know that primus isnt up to it but cant afford to get rid of him and pay him out ,seen they are paying mark williams $56000 a month still(another duncanson stuff up).Ebert deal to richmond apparently all go for nason of richmond.surjan,pearce,motlop to be traded or delisted,crows have spoken to kane cornes. you may say yeh right but it is very reliable source.A certain radio announcer knows more than he says aswell.

[Goat Herder]

No problems Booney. As I said, we agree to disagree. Pretty sure our variance of opinion won't affect either of our sleep patterns too much.

Also, apologies for not answering your questions Oh Mighty Aust-to-England Can-swilling Record-holder.

To appease you, however ;

How long will you give the next bloke to get the job done?

How long is a piece of string. What an absurd question.. There is no definitive answer. There is no time-frame. What needs to be done is the coach tick off certain KPI's; for the players to WANT to play for the coach and above all else, UNIFY the list. That's at least TWO of the three that Primus cannot tick off. Don't ask me what the KPI's are either - like your good self, I'm not part of the inner sanctum of an AFL Club (or maybe you are?).

How long do you think it takes to turn 8-9 players on a list over?

I dunno, ask Hardwick. We've been so inactive around the trade table for so long, it'll take 5-10yrs! Once again, you're asking questions that cannot be accurately answered. It will depend on how much of a mover & shaker we are in trade week. That remains to be seen..

[Booney]

How long will you give the next bloke to get the job done?

How long is a piece of string. What an absurd question.. There is no definitive answer.

Oh,but there is. Any given piece of string will be exactly twice the length as it is from one end to the middle.



My problem with your comment is, Primus has really only had one pre-season and draft period to do anything, what did you expect him to do in that time?

[Goat Herder]

How long will you give the next bloke to get the job done?

How long is a piece of string. What an absurd question.. There is no definitive answer.

Oh,but there is. Any given piece of string will be exactly twice the length as it is from one end to the middle.



My problem with your comment is, Primus has really only had one pre-season and draft period to do anything, what did you expect him to do in that time?

There's no doubt he'll be given at least one more year. My main concern is the disharmony that has reigned supreme in the Port camp this year. It's clear to even Blind Freddy that the group is divided. As coach, he has to take responsibility for the lack of man-management - or moreso his failure to manage these blokes and unify them for the common cause. The prime example is the lack of communication between he & Cornes.C across a whole month. A whole MONTH!! One of the most important facets of the modern-day coach is people management, which on the surface of things he has failed to succeed in. I hope he learns from his mistakes and is strong enough to weed out the bad eggs, and given that he has used the word "groups" when discussing his list, it's blatantly obvious that factions or cliques are present.

Good to see some passionate supporters still exist after this disastrous season.

[stan]

Port have so many problems at the moment, but lets see what they dish up this weekend. Seriously you would expect to have Brogan back soon for a couple of games and why its only short term it will at least give them some help in being competative.
In the end the end of the season can't come quick enough. Port most likely will get the spoon but once you get over that fact you start planning for next season. Look at what your going to do with pick 4 etc.
As for Ports problems, heck who knows where to start, seems to be some strange war going on around that place at the moment. It is all very strange.

[Sojourner]

How long will you give the next bloke to get the job done?

To rebuild a club from the ground up, I would suggest a five year contract would be the way to go. South Adelaide were criticised for giving Ron Fuller a five year deal, yet we as a club were in a very dark place with many different problems to deal with. Two years on and the club has bounced back from the bottom of the ladder and is doing much better than it has for the last several years. Still plenty of water to go under the bridge but it seems that in our situation the five year plan was the way to go!

As much as I dont want to seem him leave the SAFC, Ron Fuller would be an ideal candidate to join the Coaching Staff at the Power. Port need to get some good people into full time positions and his is one name they should consider, he is well known for junior development and seeing talent in players and bringing it out when other coaches have failed. Hopefully he would refuse it and stay at South, but Port would be crazy not to speak to him!

[Goat Herder]

Likewise, they'd be crazy not to try and chuck some coin at Roy Laird and try and procure him away from Centrals. I seriously don't think Lairdy would be interested to be honest, but $$$'s speaks volumes, and ya never know.

[Wedgie]

Hey Goat Herder,

We take prospective recruits out for the day in Robert Gerards boat. Port should get you to take their prospective recruits out in your boat fishing!

Or you could take players like Daniel Motlop out and throw them overboard!

[james07]

Likewise, they'd be crazy not to try and chuck some coin at Roy Laird and try and procure him away from Centrals. I seriously don't think Lairdy would be interested to be honest, but $$$'s speaks volumes, and ya never know.

well that post just sums up your your level of thinking, yeah lets get a guys that has never played or coached in the AFL that will work. i feel better now

[valleys07]

well that post just sums up your your level of thinking, yeah lets get a guys that has never played or coached in the AFL that will work. i feel better now

Well his list management with centrals is impressive, professional and the way he represents centrals is first class, outside of the port adelaide culture (which imo wouldnt be a bad thing for port to step outside of this) and is a successful coach.

Not the worst suggestion.

[CoverKing]

Likewise, they'd be crazy not to try and chuck some coin at Roy Laird and try and procure him away from Centrals. I seriously don't think Lairdy would be interested to be honest, but $$$'s speaks volumes, and ya never know.

well that post just sums up your your level of thinking, yeah lets get a guys that has never played or coached in the AFL that will work. i feel better now

didnt realise you had to be an ex afl player to be a coach. who says you need to be a good enough player to reach the afl to reach the afl as a coach?

[Goat Herder]

Hey Goat Herder,

We take prospective recruits out for the day in Robert Gerards boat. Port should get you to take their prospective recruits out in your boat fishing!

Or you could take players like Daniel Motlop out and throw them overboard!

Haha! Rob's multi-million dollar Cruiser would be a bit more seaworthy than my 4.5m tinny.. Happy to take Mots out though, it'd solve a probem for both of us.

[Goat Herder]

Likewise, they'd be crazy not to try and chuck some coin at Roy Laird and try and procure him away from Centrals. I seriously don't think Lairdy would be interested to be honest, but $$$'s speaks volumes, and ya never know.

well that post just sums up your your level of thinking, yeah lets get a guys that has never played or coached in the AFL that will work. i feel better now

My level of thinking?? John Cahill coached Collingwood didn't he?? Allegedly the most powerful Club in the VFL/AFL.

FYI, before you go off half-cocked again, I was referring to trying to get Lairdy on board as an assistant - in reference to the previous post about talking to Ron Fuller about being an assistant. Personally, I'd prefer Laird over Fullar, given the choice.

I eagerly await your next worthless contribution....

[Booney]

Mentioning Laird and AFL is as worthless as you can get.

He simply isn't interested.

[gossipgirl]

Primus isnt going anywhere. Port cant afford to pay him out even if they wanted to. Sure he has made big mistakes with player selection this year but surely its hard to judge him until he has been in the job for more than 5 minutes

[Goat Herder]

Mentioning Laird and AFL is as worthless as you can get.

He simply isn't interested.

I seriously don't think Lairdy would be interested to be honest, but $$$'s speaks volumes, and ya never know.

Nice work Sherlock!

Fair dinkum.. Can't express an opinion before some clown jumps all over ya.

Apologies for trying to generate some chat around the topic at hand. Great job you're doing there Booney, facilitating Forum discussion. Brilliant mate.