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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Booney » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:50 pm

GWW wrote:
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clanger wrote:whoever said Ben Rutten is kidding themsleves he beats the best full fowards week in and week out and could fit into most sides but not every team.


But he burns the ball too often and makes a lot of mistakes when the ball hits the ground. Yes he beats his opponents one on one but I cringe everytime we kick the ball to him in general play.


Just be glad you don't have Troy Chaplin in your backline ;)


Cmon mate, bit rough there. Chappy marshalls our backline and usually disposes of the ball very well. One of 22 blokes who had a stinker on the weekend.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby GWW » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:52 pm

A bit rough maybe, but he does make a long of clangers when he should be able to dispose the ball more effectively.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Drop Bear » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:53 pm

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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:57 pm

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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby cripple » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:04 pm

will get shot down for this, but after 250 games i think matthew scarletts tyres get pumped up a little to hard. Has had the benefit of playing behind a great midfield and as a result of their pressure, the oppositions delivery into scarletts opponents is very poor. Also has the capacity to get away with a lot of niggly little stuff on the field from the umpires in my eyes and can struggle in one on one contests.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:30 pm

Ill go one better cripple. I have always thought Dustin Fletcher is over rated. Every time I see him play, he always lines up on the 2nd or 3rd best forward on the opposition team.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby dedja » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:41 pm

Is there anyone who's just 'rated'? :ymdaydream:
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Ruben Carter » Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:59 pm

cripple wrote:will get shot down for this, but after 250 games i think matthew scarletts tyres get pumped up a little to hard. Has had the benefit of playing behind a great midfield and as a result of their pressure, the oppositions delivery into scarletts opponents is very poor. Also has the capacity to get away with a lot of niggly little stuff on the field from the umpires in my eyes and can struggle in one on one contests.


you are obviously blind
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Ill go one better cripple. I have always thought Dustin Fletcher is over rated. Every time I see him play, he always lines up on the 2nd or 3rd best forward on the opposition team.

and generally beats them all....
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:02 pm

dedja wrote:Is there anyone who's just 'rated'? :ymdaydream:


Any player from outside of Victoria, South and Western Australia. Limited media exposure helps.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:11 pm

steven milne.... junk
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby dedja » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:15 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:steven milne.... junk


doesn't qualify ... needs to be rated first.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:19 pm

dedja wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:steven milne.... junk


doesn't qualify ... needs to be rated first.


:lol: very true :lol: :lol:
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby no_remorse28 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:37 pm

cripple wrote:will get shot down for this, but after 250 games i think matthew scarletts tyres get pumped up a little to hard. Has had the benefit of playing behind a great midfield and as a result of their pressure, the oppositions delivery into scarletts opponents is very poor. Also has the capacity to get away with a lot of niggly little stuff on the field from the umpires in my eyes and can struggle in one on one contests.


I agree to an extent, they say he was brilliant on the weekend, but shouldné most players in defense playing free without an oponent be able to get a few touches and look good doing it, there is no one on him !! he does this most weeks. Chad Cornes got an All Australian for the same thing, just dont rate that role as a dominating way to play IMO
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby cripple » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:45 pm

Ruben Carter wrote:
cripple wrote:will get shot down for this, but after 250 games i think matthew scarletts tyres get pumped up a little to hard. Has had the benefit of playing behind a great midfield and as a result of their pressure, the oppositions delivery into scarletts opponents is very poor. Also has the capacity to get away with a lot of niggly little stuff on the field from the umpires in my eyes and can struggle in one on one contests.


you are obviously blind
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Ill go one better cripple. I have always thought Dustin Fletcher is over rated. Every time I see him play, he always lines up on the 2nd or 3rd best forward on the opposition team.

and generally beats them all....


would you like to give a reason as to your statement for me being blind. I have outlined my issues with him and don't really care if you agree with them or not.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Media Park » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:20 pm

"Neon" Leon Davis, rated as an exceptional goal sneak alá Daniel Motlop, both can do amazing things at times, but both are generally pumped up pieces of poo on the field. Definitely overrated.

Kositchske biggest claim to fame is passing out during an interview, yet people think he's a superstar purely for getting out on the track. Tom Lonergan is guts, Jason McCartney was guts, Kosi? Overrated.

Sam Mitchell gets twenty-odd touches a week, people jizz over him, but really, Brad Sewell gets no plaudits, and he kicks a lot more ass... Sam Mitchell... Overrated.

Karmichael Hunt... Sorry, but so many people have pumped his benefits, and what rugby attributes he brings that will make him a dominant force in this comp, and he's done what? sewven touches in his best game? overrated.

Liam Jurrah? Refer Neon Leon and Motlop... Guy does some brilliant things. Guy does some things most Judd/Ablett/Swan players would never dream of, but can the guy hit a team mate on the tit from 35 metres away? No. Overrated.

Dangerfield. Sorry Cow fans, but what has this guy done? Potential? Check. But Hentschel had potential. Results? Not yet. Was this guy a bee's appendage away from being AFC captain this year? Yes. Would he make the starting 22 at a Geelong/Collingwood/Bulldogs side? No. Overrated.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby cripple » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:31 pm

Media Park wrote:"Neon" Leon Davis, rated as an exceptional goal sneak alá Daniel Motlop, both can do amazing things at times, but both are generally pumped up pieces of poo on the field. Definitely overrated.

Kositchske biggest claim to fame is passing out during an interview, yet people think he's a superstar purely for getting out on the track. Tom Lonergan is guts, Jason McCartney was guts, Kosi? Overrated.

Sam Mitchell gets twenty-odd touches a week, people jizz over him, but really, Brad Sewell gets no plaudits, and he kicks a lot more ass... Sam Mitchell... Overrated.

Karmichael Hunt... Sorry, but so many people have pumped his benefits, and what rugby attributes he brings that will make him a dominant force in this comp, and he's done what? sewven touches in his best game? overrated.

Liam Jurrah? Refer Neon Leon and Motlop... Guy does some brilliant things. Guy does some things most Judd/Ablett/Swan players would never dream of, but can the guy hit a team mate on the tit from 35 metres away? No. Overrated.


Dangerfield. Sorry Cow fans, but what has this guy done? Potential? Check. But Hentschel had potential. Results? Not yet. Was this guy a bee's appendage away from being AFC captain this year? Yes. Would he make the starting 22 at a Geelong/Collingwood/Bulldogs side? No. Overrated.


Liam Jurrah is one of the best kicks in the comp. At the moment his goal returns are 12.3 after 4 games. His kicking action is the most relaxed going around and i have not seen him miss a target, and very rarely a set shot at goal.
As has been said before, Hunt cant be overrated because no one rates him, he has played 4 games of AFL football. Sam Mitchell has been the leader of a club and whilst disposal isn't silky smooth his ability to find the ball and distribute at close quarters is second to none. dangerfield has potential and has yet to realise it fully so i agree with you on that one at the moment, but he will become a star in the next fears.

I agree with your statements regarding kosi completely and mostly with davis and motlop, although i do enjoy watching both when in full flight.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Ruben Carter » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:51 pm

cripple wrote:
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cripple wrote:will get shot down for this, but after 250 games i think matthew scarletts tyres get pumped up a little to hard. Has had the benefit of playing behind a great midfield and as a result of their pressure, the oppositions delivery into scarletts opponents is very poor. Also has the capacity to get away with a lot of niggly little stuff on the field from the umpires in my eyes and can struggle in one on one contests.


you are obviously blind
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Ill go one better cripple. I have always thought Dustin Fletcher is over rated. Every time I see him play, he always lines up on the 2nd or 3rd best forward on the opposition team.

and generally beats them all....


would you like to give a reason as to your statement for me being blind. I have outlined my issues with him and don't really care if you agree with them or not.


OK Cripple let me draw you a picture... Scarlett would be fairly certain to be selected as a Full Back right now if we were picking an all-Australian Team. He plays well on big occasions (like yesterday) and is rarely, if ever beaten. You say he struggles in one-on-one contests. When and Where? I say that is a crock.... Also, he does play behind a very good mid-field and that makes it easier for a defender, agreed - so why isn't Chris Tarrant dominating like Scarlett does, or Nathan Brown when he was playing last year??
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Q. » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:04 am

Scarlett does not usually play a shut-down role though and certainly isn't playing full-back these days. Lonergan and Taylor tend to take those roles, as evidenced on Saturday against Hawthorn.
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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:19 am

Scarlett baggers LMAO.

Scarlett has done the shutdown thing in the earlier years of his career but like SOS before him Scarlo has evolved into an attacking half back. Scarlo can play talls or smalls but he provides Geelong with the most value when he can be the general of the backline and zone off his man.

This ability does not make him any lesser a defender as he has proven, particuarly against Matty Lloyd the best Full Forward of his time that he can play against the best forwards man on man and beat them.

I'd like you Scarlo baggers to tell me why we should let taller spoiling forwards loose in the back half just so Scarlo can negate a Roughead or Buddy. If you can convince me please don't talk to Chris Scott because in the last two weeks Scarlett has been massive, especially against Sydney where he was best on in my opinion.

'Gun' midfielders come and go but fullbacks that can negate and attack, play small and tall are a very rare breed indeed. He is rated for a reaon folks.

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Re: Most over-rated player in the AFL

Postby cripple » Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:03 am

Ruben Carter wrote:
cripple wrote:
Ruben Carter wrote:
cripple wrote:will get shot down for this, but after 250 games i think matthew scarletts tyres get pumped up a little to hard. Has had the benefit of playing behind a great midfield and as a result of their pressure, the oppositions delivery into scarletts opponents is very poor. Also has the capacity to get away with a lot of niggly little stuff on the field from the umpires in my eyes and can struggle in one on one contests.


you are obviously blind
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Ill go one better cripple. I have always thought Dustin Fletcher is over rated. Every time I see him play, he always lines up on the 2nd or 3rd best forward on the opposition team.

and generally beats them all....


would you like to give a reason as to your statement for me being blind. I have outlined my issues with him and don't really care if you agree with them or not.


OK Cripple let me draw you a picture... Scarlett would be fairly certain to be selected as a Full Back right now if we were picking an all-Australian Team. He plays well on big occasions (like yesterday) and is rarely, if ever beaten. You say he struggles in one-on-one contests. When and Where? I say that is a crock.... Also, he does play behind a very good mid-field and that makes it easier for a defender, agreed - so why isn't Chris Tarrant dominating like Scarlett does, or Nathan Brown when he was playing last year??



You think he is in all australian form at the moment thats fine. Perosnally i would have him behind the likes of daniel merrit who is hugely underrated, brian harris when fit, ben reid at collingwood and even harry taylor from his own team. He would be on a par with Rutten, Fletcher, Glass, McPharlin and Frawley from melbourne. Thats a long way from being the certain pick for full back in any all australian team. He struggles in one on one contests imo becuase he is usually third man up or picking off the dodgy kicks of the opposition mids. We all see things differently and i am just giving my opinion
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