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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby rd » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:10 pm

And there wasn't even a Stupidity Levy tacked onto the punishment...
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:44 pm

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Thiele wrote:Has been Suspended until round 8 and fined $5000 http://www.geelongcats.com.au/geelongne ... fault.aspx




Fairly "soft" considering the charge I would have thought with the stance they were supposedly going to take. I wonder what the AFL hierachy thinks about it?
Doesn't need to be 'hanged' but what is a $5K fine and 8 match payments to an AFL player who earns maybe $200K in the scheme of things considering the severity of the offence.


I would say it is a more severe punishment then the "average Joe " on the street would get. And he still has to face criminal charges.
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby HH3 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:57 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
aceman wrote:
Thiele wrote:Has been Suspended until round 8 and fined $5000 http://www.geelongcats.com.au/geelongne ... fault.aspx




Fairly "soft" considering the charge I would have thought with the stance they were supposedly going to take. I wonder what the AFL hierachy thinks about it?
Doesn't need to be 'hanged' but what is a $5K fine and 8 match payments to an AFL player who earns maybe $200K in the scheme of things considering the severity of the offence.


I would say it is a more severe punishment then the "average Joe " on the street would get. And he still has to face criminal charges.


8 match payments if hes earning $200K is still just under $70k...which is a fairly big indirect "fine"...plus the legal stuff...if he gets charged with trafficking isnt it an automatic 4 year ban from the AFL...plus if guilty he should go to jail as well right?
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby Wedgie » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:39 am

5k is the maximum they can fine him and the penalty may also be added to depending on what happens in court.
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:45 am

I thought he would have copped a few more matches myself.

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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:47 am

Rik E Boy wrote:I thought he would have copped a few more matches myself.

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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby aceman » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:22 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
aceman wrote:
Thiele wrote:Has been Suspended until round 8 and fined $5000 http://www.geelongcats.com.au/geelongne ... fault.aspx




Fairly "soft" considering the charge I would have thought with the stance they were supposedly going to take. I wonder what the AFL hierachy thinks about it?
Doesn't need to be 'hanged' but what is a $5K fine and 8 match payments to an AFL player who earns maybe $200K in the scheme of things considering the severity of the offence.


I would say it is a more severe punishment then the "average Joe " on the street would get. And he still has to face criminal charges.



Not sure we're talking about "average Joe".
Have a look at what the 3 Bullies & their boss copped for harassing a workmate for long enough to drive her to commit suicide, I'm thinking that dealing in cocaine has caused many to go down that same path so if you want an example to go buy, notwithstanding the law will have it's say in the courts also, I reckon IMO he should have been delisted.
Might sound harsh but if you can save both a life & Stokes from further trouble, you've achieved something more than a "scorch mark" in his wallet. Then also the others within the AFL might think twice about doing the same thing.
A few years ago Dale Lewis brought this subject into the open forum and was ridiculed and told it was a crock of sh*t, maybe he knew something the big boys didn't want to know!
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:25 am

You think delisting Stokes is going to help him? :roll:
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:41 am

aceman wrote:

Not sure we're talking about "average Joe".
Have a look at what the 3 Bullies & their boss copped for harassing a workmate for long enough to drive her to commit suicide, I'm thinking that dealing in cocaine has caused many to go down that same path so if you want an example to go buy, notwithstanding the law will have it's say in the courts also, I reckon IMO he should have been delisted.
Might sound harsh but if you can save both a life & Stokes from further trouble, you've achieved something more than a "scorch mark" in his wallet. Then also the others within the AFL might think twice about doing the same thing.
A few years ago Dale Lewis brought this subject into the open forum and was ridiculed and told it was a crock of sh*t, maybe he knew something the big boys didn't want to know!


You have picked a terrible comparison there. Not even close to the same thing.
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby Psyber » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:49 am

What they do have in common is the question of what behaviour should society tolerate, and how should society send out the message to those who may emulate the people who push their individualism too far?
Then we get into uncomfortable debates about relative values - what should be tolerated and what shouldn't?
The easy route is to just let it rip, and only police the easy stuff like parking and speeding...
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby Psyber » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:51 am

Bum Crack wrote: If you want to have a laugh, read his last paragraph while doing your best David Attenborough impersonation. Just do it and you'll see what I mean :lol: :lol:
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:02 am

Psyber wrote:
Bum Crack wrote: If you want to have a laugh, read his last paragraph while doing your best David Attenborough impersonation. Just do it and you'll see what I mean :lol: :lol:
Thank you BC and all who supported this comment.
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I hope I am functioning as well as him when I reach his age..

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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:09 pm

Psyber wrote:
Bum Crack wrote: If you want to have a laugh, read his last paragraph while doing your best David Attenborough impersonation. Just do it and you'll see what I mean :lol: :lol:
Thank you BC and all who supported this comment.
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I hope I am functioning as well as him when I reach his age..


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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby Booney » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:13 pm

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Cocaine (benzoylmethylecgonine) is a crystalline tropane alkaloid that is obtained from the leaves of the coca plant.[5] The name comes from "coca" in addition to the alkaloid suffix -ine, forming cocaine. It is a stimulant of the central nervous system and an appetite suppressant. Specifically, it is a serotonin-norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor, which mediates functionality of such as an exogenous catecholamine transporter ligand. Because of the way it affects the mesolimbic reward pathway, cocaine is addictive.[6]

Its possession, cultivation, and distribution are illegal for non-medicinal and non-government sanctioned purposes in virtually all parts of the world. Although its free commercialization is illegal and has been severely penalized in virtually all countries, its use worldwide remains widespread in many social, cultural, and personal settings.
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby centrecirclelegend » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:09 pm

but who was he buying it for?

anyone work it out yet?
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby aceman » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:15 pm

Psyber wrote:What they do have in common is the question of what behaviour should society tolerate, and how should society send out the message to those who may emulate the people who push their individualism too far?
Then we get into uncomfortable debates about relative values - what should be tolerated and what shouldn't?
The easy route is to just let it rip, and only police the easy stuff like parking and speeding...



Thanks Psyber for seeing past the "smoke & mirrors". Some people just cannot see the forest because there are way too many trees!
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby aceman » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:18 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
aceman wrote:

Not sure we're talking about "average Joe".
Have a look at what the 3 Bullies & their boss copped for harassing a workmate for long enough to drive her to commit suicide, I'm thinking that dealing in cocaine has caused many to go down that same path so if you want an example to go buy, notwithstanding the law will have it's say in the courts also, I reckon IMO he should have been delisted.
Might sound harsh but if you can save both a life & Stokes from further trouble, you've achieved something more than a "scorch mark" in his wallet. Then also the others within the AFL might think twice about doing the same thing.
A few years ago Dale Lewis brought this subject into the open forum and was ridiculed and told it was a crock of sh*t, maybe he knew something the big boys didn't want to know!


You have picked a terrible comparison there. Not even close to the same thing.


Principle is very much the same thing, it's called "breaking the law" which in turn could either cost or save a life.
Not terribly important to you?
God forbid neither ever happens in YOUR family my friend.You may then change your mind.
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:19 pm

aceman wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
aceman wrote:

Not sure we're talking about "average Joe".
Have a look at what the 3 Bullies & their boss copped for harassing a workmate for long enough to drive her to commit suicide, I'm thinking that dealing in cocaine has caused many to go down that same path so if you want an example to go buy, notwithstanding the law will have it's say in the courts also, I reckon IMO he should have been delisted.
Might sound harsh but if you can save both a life & Stokes from further trouble, you've achieved something more than a "scorch mark" in his wallet. Then also the others within the AFL might think twice about doing the same thing.
A few years ago Dale Lewis brought this subject into the open forum and was ridiculed and told it was a crock of sh*t, maybe he knew something the big boys didn't want to know!


You have picked a terrible comparison there. Not even close to the same thing.


Principle is very much the same thing, it's called "breaking the law" which in turn could either cost or save a life.
Not terribly important to you?
God forbid neither ever happens in YOUR family my friend.You may then change your mind.

Na, it was a terrible comparison.
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby aceman » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:29 pm

Bum Crack wrote:You think delisting Stokes is going to help him? :roll:



He's the only one who can help himself but it may just wake him up that it is unaccaptable and won't be tolerated so f^ck the world and all who are in it, I'll do as I please.and those who think it will be are heading down that same highway............to nowhere!
It might just send out a big enough message to stop someone else thinking to themselves, 'I am invincible and the laws are not for me'!
Just doesn't quite work that way, might have a few years ago, but not anymore.
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Re: AFL drugs charge

Postby aceman » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:33 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
aceman wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
aceman wrote:

Not sure we're talking about "average Joe".
Have a look at what the 3 Bullies & their boss copped for harassing a workmate for long enough to drive her to commit suicide, I'm thinking that dealing in cocaine has caused many to go down that same path so if you want an example to go buy, notwithstanding the law will have it's say in the courts also, I reckon IMO he should have been delisted.
Might sound harsh but if you can save both a life & Stokes from further trouble, you've achieved something more than a "scorch mark" in his wallet. Then also the others within the AFL might think twice about doing the same thing.
A few years ago Dale Lewis brought this subject into the open forum and was ridiculed and told it was a crock of sh*t, maybe he knew something the big boys didn't want to know!


You have picked a terrible comparison there. Not even close to the same thing.


Principle is very much the same thing, it's called "breaking the law" which in turn could either cost or save a life.
Not terribly important to you?
God forbid neither ever happens in YOUR family my friend.You may then change your mind.

Na, it was a terrible comparison.



That obviously was not your daughter who was harrassed & bullied by her supposed 'peers' for long enough to make her commit suicide?
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