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Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:41 pm
by Coach Bombay
wristwatcher wrote:
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls



Oh please. I assume so would Danger, Sloan, Eddie and Tex. A certainty is a little bit rich I would think. I have been to every Crows game and he has been consistent and honest but hardly a match winner. That post reeks of Crows bias. its not as if he breaks lines or sets the game alight. He just does a good job blanketing and the list you have mentioned apart from Cloke who was horribly out of form is hardly note worthy.


Ease up fella. None of the other players you mentioned would be in the AA team, so dumb analogy. I reckon talia is in the top 3 key defenders in the comp at the moment, hardly outrageous when considering his rivals for the spot aren't setting the world on fire either. Carlise, S Thompson, R Thompson, and Gibson haven't played enough footy down back this season, maybe H Taylor would be the only one at the moment rivaling him.

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:21 pm
by helicopterking
bays09 wrote:
wristwatcher wrote:
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls



Oh please. I assume so would Danger, Sloan, Eddie and Tex. A certainty is a little bit rich I would think. I have been to every Crows game and he has been consistent and honest but hardly a match winner. That post reeks of Crows bias. its not as if he breaks lines or sets the game alight. He just does a good job blanketing and the list you have mentioned apart from Cloke who was horribly out of form is hardly note worthy.


Ease up fella. None of the other players you mentioned would be in the AA team, so dumb analogy. I reckon talia is in the top 3 key defenders in the comp at the moment, hardly outrageous when considering his rivals for the spot aren't setting the world on fire either. Carlise, S Thompson, R Thompson, and Gibson haven't played enough footy down back this season, maybe H Taylor would be the only one at the moment rivaling him.


Eric Mackenzie and Talia have been the standout defenders this year so far.

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:34 pm
by Chuck Wepner
Hefty wrote:
Red Rocket wrote:Next 6 weeks will decide their fate, will need to win 3-4 or season over.
Freo (A) Loss
North (H) 50/50
Essendon (A) Win
Port (H) Loss
GWS (A) Win
Hawks (Aur) Loss
Could potentially only win 1 of them


Hawks game is at Adelaide Oval on a Friday nite - Win


No doubt :roll:

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:53 pm
by Coach Bombay
helicopterking wrote:
bays09 wrote:
wristwatcher wrote:
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls



Oh please. I assume so would Danger, Sloan, Eddie and Tex. A certainty is a little bit rich I would think. I have been to every Crows game and he has been consistent and honest but hardly a match winner. That post reeks of Crows bias. its not as if he breaks lines or sets the game alight. He just does a good job blanketing and the list you have mentioned apart from Cloke who was horribly out of form is hardly note worthy.


Ease up fella. None of the other players you mentioned would be in the AA team, so dumb analogy. I reckon talia is in the top 3 key defenders in the comp at the moment, hardly outrageous when considering his rivals for the spot aren't setting the world on fire either. Carlise, S Thompson, R Thompson, and Gibson haven't played enough footy down back this season, maybe H Taylor would be the only one at the moment rivaling him.


Eric Mackenzie and Talia have been the standout defenders this year so far.


Careful mentioning a player from your own team. They'll assume you think darling, cox and priddis should be in the team.

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:21 pm
by The Dark Knight
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls

After reading this it got me thinking about key defenders and how many goals they've conceded this season, I remember reading an article about Alipate Carlile a month or so ago on how he'd blanketed his opponents with them hardly kicking any goals on him. I tried to search for some goals conceded statistics for the season so far but couldn't find anything.

Does anyone know where I could find those stats or can someone post them?

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:37 pm
by bennymacca
i know these ratings arent the be all and end all, but here are the AFL player ratings for key defenders

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Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:40 pm
by carey
That list instantly lost credibility when I seen the name Chaplin on it!

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:27 am
by nuggety goodness
carey wrote:That list instantly lost credibility when I seen the name Chaplin on it!


that's not entirely true. Chaplin is a key defender...

he's the one who you want to have the ball in his hands coming out of defence and he's the one you want to exploit by using his direct opponent...

he is the key...



seriously though, this is why supercoach is better than NAB fantasy (dreamteam) because it takes into account effectiveness and impact

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:45 am
by bennymacca
nah supercoach sucks because the scoring system isn't transparent.

afl fantasy system is much easier to understand and therefore much more accessible. plus i am currently 137th overall in AFL fantasy :D

draft leagues are where its at anyway :D

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:15 am
by BoundaryRider84
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls


WTF.....Harry Taylor says hello! Doesn't impact the game enough, yes he stops his opponent from goal, but so does Taylor and look what he does around the ground.

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:41 am
by Stumps
Steven May got torn a new one by taylor walker on the weekend. not fit to shine talia's boots

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:49 am
by Booney
nuggety goodness wrote:
carey wrote:That list instantly lost credibility when I seen the name Chaplin on it!

that's not entirely true. Chaplin is a key defender...
he's the one who you want to have the ball in his hands coming out of defence and he's the one you want to exploit by using his direct opponent...
he is the key...
seriously though, this is why supercoach is better than NAB fantasy (dreamteam) because it takes into account effectiveness and impact


You don't watch Chaplin enough then. His decision making is average and his disposal no better.

He is a capable "third man" up defender to impact upon a contest but he is one of the reasons Richmond are shite. They've banked on him being the corner stone of their defence and he isn't up to playing that role.

Like Carey notes, that table has zero credibility.

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:50 am
by Booney
BoundaryRider84 wrote:
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls


WTF.....Harry Taylor says hello! Doesn't impact the game enough, yes he stops his opponent from goal, but so does Taylor and look what he does around the ground.


Talia is ahead of Taylor in 2014 IMO. Taylor was average against Port and quite poor against Fremantle the following week. Taylor may still make the side on a flank or in a pocket but Talia would be, IMO, the CHB at this point.

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:29 am
by bennymacca
BoundaryRider84 wrote:
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls


WTF.....Harry Taylor says hello! Doesn't impact the game enough, yes he stops his opponent from goal, but so does Taylor and look what he does around the ground.


Taylor hasnt had as good a year as previous years. been monstered in a couple of games this year.

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:55 am
by valleys07
Booney wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:
carey wrote:That list instantly lost credibility when I seen the name Chaplin on it!

that's not entirely true. Chaplin is a key defender...
he's the one who you want to have the ball in his hands coming out of defence and he's the one you want to exploit by using his direct opponent...
he is the key...
seriously though, this is why supercoach is better than NAB fantasy (dreamteam) because it takes into account effectiveness and impact


You don't watch Chaplin enough then. His decision making is average and his disposal no better.

He is a capable "third man" up defender to impact upon a contest but he is one of the reasons Richmond are shite. They've banked on him being the corner stone of their defence and he isn't up to playing that role.

Like Carey notes, that table has zero credibility.


Slightly missed the point there Boon- Chaplin is the defender you want with ball in hand........if you're not a richmond fan ;)

Although from what I saw saturday night, Rance is fast becoming my favourite too :D

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:57 am
by David Brent
Booney wrote:
BoundaryRider84 wrote:
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls


WTF.....Harry Taylor says hello! Doesn't impact the game enough, yes he stops his opponent from goal, but so does Taylor and look what he does around the ground.


Talia is ahead of Taylor in 2014 IMO. Taylor was average against Port and quite poor against Fremantle the following week. Taylor may still make the side on a flank or in a pocket but Talia would be, IMO, the CHB at this point.


Johnson from Freo would be my pick so far.

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:31 am
by cracka
Booney wrote:
BoundaryRider84 wrote:
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls


WTF.....Harry Taylor says hello! Doesn't impact the game enough, yes he stops his opponent from goal, but so does Taylor and look what he does around the ground.


Talia is ahead of Taylor in 2014 IMO. Taylor was average against Port and quite poor against Fremantle the following week. Taylor may still make the side on a flank or in a pocket but Talia would be, IMO, the CHB at this point.

Did you just praise a crows player. Hope your mates don't read this, you'll get shot.

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:16 pm
by Rik E Boy
bennymacca wrote:
BoundaryRider84 wrote:
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls


WTF.....Harry Taylor says hello! Doesn't impact the game enough, yes he stops his opponent from goal, but so does Taylor and look what he does around the ground.


Taylor hasnt had as good a year as previous years. been monstered in a couple of games this year.


Sad to say but I agree with Benny on this one. I wouldn't say monstered but certainly he hasn't been as effective this season as in previous years. I thought he showed signs against Sydney but the ball was back there all friggin night.

regards,

REB

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:10 pm
by Coach Bombay
BoundaryRider84 wrote:
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls


WTF.....Harry Taylor says hello! Doesn't impact the game enough, yes he stops his opponent from goal, but so does Taylor and look what he does around the ground.


Read my post properly FFS, I said talia is the standout this year except maybe Taylor. everyone loves having a cheap dig at a crows fan here.

Re: Crows 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:15 pm
by Coach Bombay
bays09 wrote:
wristwatcher wrote:
bays09 wrote:Talia would be a certainty as the AA CHB if the team was chosen today.

Just read that the glove has had 1 goal kicked on him in the past 4 weeks. That's Lachy Henderson, Travis cloke, Tom lynch and some Melbourne player either Dawes pedo or frawls



Oh please. I assume so would Danger, Sloan, Eddie and Tex. A certainty is a little bit rich I would think. I have been to every Crows game and he has been consistent and honest but hardly a match winner. That post reeks of Crows bias. its not as if he breaks lines or sets the game alight. He just does a good job blanketing and the list you have mentioned apart from Cloke who was horribly out of form is hardly note worthy.


Ease up fella. None of the other players you mentioned would be in the AA team, so dumb analogy. I reckon talia is in the top 3 key defenders in the comp at the moment, hardly outrageous when considering his rivals for the spot aren't setting the world on fire either. Carlise, S Thompson, R Thompson, and Gibson haven't played enough footy down back this season, maybe H Taylor would be the only one at the moment rivaling him.


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Took a gamble on bagging a crows fan without reading all the posts.