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Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:06 am
by Brodlach
Daisy with two of your most trolled teams playing I expected some great work from you but your efforts were as poor as Menzel. 1/10

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:13 am
by Booney
Geelongs top half dozen, very good.

Geelongs next half dozen, not bad.

Geelongs bottom 6, potatoes.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:03 am
by Bandit
^^^ correct.

It was probably the bottom 6 making the main skill errors last night + Guthrie. I cant remember Geelongs kicking and marking being that bad before. Also, having a high pressure fwd line only works if you put on pressure. Parfit/Jones/Menzel absolutely smashed in that area by Betts/Galucci/Murphy.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:05 am
by Lightning McQueen
What's the take from a Geelong supporter's POV with the Ablett experiment?

Has he got a pass mark for the season, was it a waste of a spot for a younger player, has he helped or hindered their quest for a flag?

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:13 am
by Bandit
My take - I like it, its a pass but i think they thought they were closer to the flag than reality is suggesting.

Without him last night you would have seen another potato (Parsons most likely). Its not like he's keeping a quality young mid out of the team.

He is still contributing as per last night, would be in their top 5 best for the game.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:18 am
by Armchair expert
Ablett has been fine, still clearly protecting his shoulder which means his tackling and attack on the ball can be a bit questionable. Worry if we make finals someone might lay a big hip and shoulder on him. Needs to play more forward than midfield imo

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:18 am
by mighty_tiger_79
Bandit wrote:^^^ correct.

It was probably the bottom 6 making the main skill errors last night + Guthrie. I cant remember Geelongs kicking and marking being that bad before. Also, having a high pressure fwd line only works if you put on pressure. Parfit/Jones/Menzel absolutely smashed in that area by Betts/Galucci/Murphy.

And when the game was still alive there were some shocking disposals...started with Stanley shocking kick into centre square and turnover.....which ended with Paarrrrfit just kicking it OOB

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:23 am
by mighty_tiger_79
Bandit wrote:My take - I like it, its a pass but i think they thought they were closer to the flag than reality is suggesting.

Without him last night you would have seen another potato (Parsons most likely). Its not like he's keeping a quality young mid out of the team.

He is still contributing as per last night, would be in their top 5 best for the game.


Been serviceable.
Gets caught too often.
Protecting his body, lays no tackles and avoids contact

If we persist, then him and Danger swap roles and Ablett plays out of the goal square.

Ablett isn't keeping any quality out, but it would be good to see if the kids we do have are gonna be able to stand up and if they are part if of our future premoership chances.

We are, where we should be. We arent that good. Despite the so called Holy Trinity.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:24 am
by Lightning McQueen
Armchair expert wrote:Ablett has been fine, still clearly protecting his shoulder which means his tackling and attack on the ball can be a bit questionable. Worry if we make finals someone might lay a big hip and shoulder on him. Needs to play more forward than midfield imo

Yeah, I think he has a couple of solid years as a small 50 goal forward, 29.1 disposals and 3 tackles a match is definitely a solid pass mark.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:24 am
by Booney
Bandit wrote:My take - I like it, its a pass but i think they thought they were closer to the flag than reality is suggesting.

Without him last night you would have seen another potato (Parsons most likely). Its not like he's keeping a quality young mid out of the team.

He is still contributing as per last night, would be in their top 5 best for the game.


Exactly mate.

After making back-to-back prelims they thought some extra cream on top would be what they needed to get one more flag out of Selwood, Taylor, Hawkins and Ablett when what you probably needed was more depth in the 15-25th player on your list.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:27 am
by mighty_tiger_79
We need a better gameplan and need to find better balance up forward.
Hawkins has had a good year. One of his best.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:34 am
by DOC
Watching him (Ablett) live, no one kicks the ball higher when gong for distance which gives the opposition more time to spoil. That said, he still gets it a lot but his big tackling days are gone.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:43 am
by David Brent
Heard a stat this week that Ablett has been caught holding the ball more this season even with 7 games remaining than ever before in one season.

Geelong have to go after a ruckman. I know Lycett has been mentioned but i'd go after Preuss from the Roos.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:55 am
by Booney
David Brent wrote:Heard a stat this week that Ablett has been caught holding the ball more this season even with 7 games remaining than ever before in one season.

Geelong have to go after a ruckman. I know Lycett has been mentioned but i'd go after Preuss from the Roos.


Goldy is 30, Preuss just signed until the end of 2020, you wouldn't get hold of Preuss from North.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:03 am
by mighty_tiger_79
DOC wrote:Watching him (Ablett) live, no one kicks the ball higher when gong for distance which gives the opposition more time to spoil. That said, he still gets it a lot but his big tackling days are gone.

His shot for goal is a prime example....kicks it so high from 50m its dropping on the goal line

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:04 am
by The Bedge
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
DOC wrote:Watching him (Ablett) live, no one kicks the ball higher when gong for distance which gives the opposition more time to spoil. That said, he still gets it a lot but his big tackling days are gone.

His shot for goal is a prime example....kicks it so high from 50m its dropping on the goal line

He did kick off one step though lol

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:06 am
by mighty_tiger_79
The Bedge wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
DOC wrote:Watching him (Ablett) live, no one kicks the ball higher when gong for distance which gives the opposition more time to spoil. That said, he still gets it a lot but his big tackling days are gone.

His shot for goal is a prime example....kicks it so high from 50m its dropping on the goal line

He did kick off one step though lol
Even kicking from HB down the eastern wing...the ball went higher the roof of the grandstands....
Just doesn't have that penetrating kick

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Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:08 am
by Lightning McQueen
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Even kicking from HB down the eastern wing...the ball went higher the roof of the grandstands....
Just doesn't have that penetrating kick

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Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:21 am
by David Brent
Booney wrote:
David Brent wrote:Heard a stat this week that Ablett has been caught holding the ball more this season even with 7 games remaining than ever before in one season.

Geelong have to go after a ruckman. I know Lycett has been mentioned but i'd go after Preuss from the Roos.


Goldy is 30, Preuss just signed until the end of 2020, you wouldn't get hold of Preuss from North.


He's stated his disappointment at not being picked yet this year. If Goldy goes on next year he might considering leaving. I wouldn't expect North to let him go either but you would be having the chat that's for sure.

Re: Geelong 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:55 am
by Half Back Flanker
Armchair expert wrote:Ablett has been fine, still clearly protecting his shoulder which means his tackling and attack on the ball can be a bit questionable. Worry if we make finals someone might lay a big hip and shoulder on him. Needs to play more forward than midfield imo



Agree completely. Play Gaz as a small lead up forward. Will give you more than Menzel. Danger needs more midfield time.

We are lacking a CHF that can play as that link up guy in the centre third. Buzza is no good. My mail is they are looking at a good kid in the SANFL in his early 20's who could fill that role.....