Possible Trades and De-listings for your club

[magpie in the 80's]

interesting to read this morning, the lions have confirmed that they are not interested in Hart and Mathews advised Hart to retire and remain a one club player

Hart's playing options seem remote

all quoted from KG's show Wednesday night

bit hard to get KG's show here in canberra or sydney dutch

[Dutchy]

interesting to read this morning, the lions have confirmed that they are not interested in Hart and Mathews advised Hart to retire and remain a one club player

Hart's playing options seem remote

all quoted from KG's show Wednesday night

bit hard to get KG's show here in canberra or sydney dutch

you own a computer right?

[Rik E Boy]

...his cell block are only allotted a limited amount of computer access...

regards,

REB

[Ruck Legend]

I thought that clubs could not delist players who have been on the list for only one year.

Wasn't Obst only there for one year?

[magpie in the 80's]

...his cell block are only allotted a limited amount of computer access...

regards,

REB

once again your right REB and my time is outside KG's time slot

[sydney-dog]

Ruck Legend

I too thought that was the draft condition, 2 yrs min

[Macca19]

If a drafted player hasnt been on an AFL senior or rookie list before, then they get given a minimum 2 year contract. Its part of the bargaining agreement. Like any player - the clubs can choose to end their contract whenever they like, but the clubs have to pay that players salary in the salary cap next year. I think Obst would have been on $42k next year, so thats $42k used in Adelaides salary cap next year on a player thats not on their list.

Its a pretty rare thing. First year players getting delisted doesnt happen too often as most clubs fulfill their 2 year contract to see how they develop first, plus also to have that salary cap space used on a player that can play. Obst, Stribling (Freo), Fraser (Port), Kirey (Crows) and Forsyth (Brisbane) are the only players I can remember off the top of my head who got delisted at the end of their first season.

Its why clubs like Essendon, Carlton and Hawthorn were laughed at for giving players very long term contracts that were heavily backloaded which then backfired in their face. Nick Holland got given $800k last year and only played 3 games. Mercuri was getting similar money because of a 5 year deal which backfired....ditto Kouta who got something crazy like 1.2 Millon one year. They couldnt delist Holland or Mercuri as they were on ridiculous money that they had to pay either way.

[Blue Boy]

If a drafted player hasnt been on an AFL senior or rookie list before, then they get given a minimum 2 year contract. Its part of the bargaining agreement. Like any player - the clubs can choose to end their contract whenever they like, but the clubs have to pay that players salary in the salary cap next year. I think Obst would have been on $42k next year, so thats $42k used in Adelaides salary cap next year on a player thats not on their list.

Its a pretty rare thing. First year players getting delisted doesnt happen too often as most clubs fulfill their 2 year contract to see how they develop first, plus also to have that salary cap space used on a player that can play. Obst, Stribling (Freo), Fraser (Port), Kirey (Crows) and Forsyth (Brisbane) are the only players I can remember off the top of my head who got delisted at the end of their first season.

Its why clubs like Essendon, Carlton and Hawthorn were laughed at for giving players very long term contracts that were heavily backloaded which then backfired in their face. Nick Holland got given $800k last year and only played 3 games. Mercuri was getting similar money because of a 5 year deal which backfired....ditto Kouta who got something crazy like 1.2 Millon one year. They couldnt delist Holland or Mercuri as they were on ridiculous money that they had to pay either way.

What if he is rookie listed !!!

[Macca19]

Then like Stribling this year, it would still be counted as part of the salary cap. If you cut any players contract early, his contract gets included as part of the salary cap.

[Dutchy]

bit tough on the bloke - he has a 2 year contract and while he gets paid out for next year Im sure that woulndt be the concern, fact is he had 2 years but has been cut after 1......not good enough crows...very poor...a new rule needs to be that they have to be listed for 2 years

[sydney-dog]

Dutchy

for once I think I agree with you,

if your listed as a rookie, I think one year contracts are ok, but if your listed on the senior list, two year contracts should not allow the clubs to terminate and pay out after one year, it puts the accountability back on the recruitment dept to select wisely and the development coaches to do their jobs

In the end Obst may not of made it as an AFL footballer but they should be given a two window to develop

[Dutchy]

Dutchy

for once I think I agree with you,

if your listed as a rookie, I think one year contracts are ok, but if your listed on the senior list, two year contracts should not allow the clubs to terminate and pay out after one year, it puts the accountability back on the recruitment dept to select wisely and the development coaches to do their jobs

In the end Obst may not of made it as an AFL footballer but they should be given a two window to develop

amazing aint it?

The kid would have thought all year he had 2 years, then gets teh chop

[sydney-dog]

somethings changed, they rated him this time last year and now they don't

I am not sure if their is more to it?

[Macca19]

amazing aint it?

The kid would have thought all year he had 2 years, then gets teh chop

Maybe thats the problem. He relaxed thinking he had time to develop when in fact he didnt.

Personally, I didnt see anything in him to suggest he would ever play an AFL game. Maybe the Crows saw that too.

[sydney-dog]

Ex Power player no ex Bulldogs player Adam Morgan has been delisted

[sydney-dog]

SYDNEY Swans ruckman Paul Chambers has decided to call time on his AFL career after a difficult debut season in the harbour city

Paul Williams has also signed as an assistant coach at Melbourne

[sydney-dog]

Sydney have de-listed Matthew Davis (ex North Adel), Andrew Ericksen, Earl Shaw, David Spriggs and Josh Willoughby (ex Glenelg)

[sydney-dog]

Geelong has delisted four-time leading goalkicker Kent Kingsley, Matthew McCarthy and Paul Koulouriotis.
Rookie listed players Will Slade, Nick Batchelor and Tim Sheringham did not have their contracts renewed