Collingwood

[Q.]

And struggling to see where goals are going to consistently come from with a horribly out-of-form Cloke, sidelined Elliot, and a rookie Moore.

[Dogwatcher]

I think Adams shows great leadership.

I just reckon we have too many turnovers to execute offensive structures. Still got a list of blokes who's kicking is often questionable.

Very true. How has that not been addressed? It's not a new problem.

[tigerpie]

I think Adams shows great leadership.

I just reckon we have too many turnovers to execute offensive structures. Still got a list of blokes who's kicking is often questionable.

Very true. How has that not been addressed? It's not a new problem.

Its not that they have forgotten how to hit a target, they just have no confidence in doing so at the moment.

Langdons pissy little chip across goals and Clokes little dinky kick out on the full a classic examples of a lack of skills confidence.

[Dogwatcher]

I think Adams shows great leadership.

I just reckon we have too many turnovers to execute offensive structures. Still got a list of blokes who's kicking is often questionable.

Very true. How has that not been addressed? It's not a new problem.

Its not that they have forgotten how to hit a target, they just have no confidence in doing so at the moment.

Langdons pissy little chip across goals and Clokes little dinky kick out on the full a classic examples of a lack of skills confidence.

I don't disagree about confidence.
However, I disagree about 'hitting targets' - we've ranked very low on the tables for disposal accuracy for the past couple of years. It was talked about as a deficiency last year and coming into this year. The teams that hit targets best win flags. The rest can please themselves.

[tigerpie]

I think Adams shows great leadership.

I just reckon we have too many turnovers to execute offensive structures. Still got a list of blokes who's kicking is often questionable.

Very true. How has that not been addressed? It's not a new problem.

Its not that they have forgotten how to hit a target, they just have no confidence in doing so at the moment.

Langdons pissy little chip across goals and Clokes little dinky kick out on the full a classic examples of a lack of skills confidence.

I don't disagree about confidence.
However, I disagree about 'hitting targets' - we've ranked very low on the tables for disposal accuracy for the past couple of years. It was talked about as a deficiency last year and coming into this year. The teams that hit targets best win flags. The rest can please themselves.

Buckley was an elite kick so pretty sure he drafted kids that could hit targets.
I don't disagree that we have some dud kicks, but Langdon's been pretty efficient off half back but now couldn't hit a barn door.
As soon as you second guess yourself you are done. And that's what's happening.
The worrying thing is we have played some brilliant footy but can't sustain it for longer than 20 minutes a game.

[Grahaml]

Looking more and more like that succession plan that was meant to be Eddie McGuire's crowning glory as president will go down as one of the great boardroom blunders of the AFL era. Buckley's coaching career is on a knife edge, Malthouse's own career ended in embarassment and Collingwood have somehow slipped from pace setters to somehow getting the results of a side in rebuild mode but without the actual rebuilding.

[Dogwatcher]

Buckley was an elite kick so pretty sure he drafted kids that could hit targets.
I don't disagree that we have some dud kicks, but Langdon's been pretty efficient off half back but now couldn't hit a barn door.
As soon as you second guess yourself you are done. And that's what's happening.
The worrying thing is we have played some brilliant footy but can't sustain it for longer than 20 minutes a game.

Then why have we been so low in disposal efficiency during 2014/15 and so far this season? It's not being addressed.

[JK]

Buckley was an elite kick so pretty sure he drafted kids that could hit targets.
I don't disagree that we have some dud kicks, but Langdon's been pretty efficient off half back but now couldn't hit a barn door.
As soon as you second guess yourself you are done. And that's what's happening.
The worrying thing is we have played some brilliant footy but can't sustain it for longer than 20 minutes a game.

Then why have we been so low in disposal efficiency during 2014/15 and so far this season? It's not being addressed.

Adams, Treloar and Aish are far from elite kicks

[tigerpie]

I agree about Adams but treloar and aish go alright.
The ball isn't ending up with right bloke. Adams should be winning the ground balls and putting a bloke in space by hand.
Pendlebury swan and varcoe are our best kicks to advantage along with Reid.
When these four aren't playing well or injured like swan and varcoe we struggle because the young blokes panic under pressure.
If we lose on Monday I'll eat me hat!

[Q.]

It's pretty obvious Buckley has moved away from the previous season/s structures. Reckon the players have struggled to execute it post-NAB for whatever reason.

[JK]

I agree about Adams but treloar and aish go alright.
The ball isn't ending up with right bloke. Adams should be winning the ground balls and putting a bloke in space by hand.
Pendlebury swan and varcoe are our best kicks to advantage along with Reid.
When these four aren't playing well or injured like swan and varcoe we struggle because the young blokes panic under pressure.
If we lose on Monday I'll eat me hat!

Treloar and Aish are OK kicks, far from elite though. I'd think Pendles, Sidebottom and Varcoe are probably the best kicks there (as least from the bits I see), Whats happened to Crisp, thought he was excellent last year

[Q.]

Oxley is a great kick too.

Crisp looks lost.

[tigerpie]

It's pretty obvious Buckley has moved away from the previous season/s structures. Reckon the players have struggled to execute it post-NAB for whatever reason.

I agree. A lot of clubs in the same boat. Changing structures and game style doesn't happen overnight.
Crisp does look lost for sure and I forgot about sidey.
We'll come good with a wolloping of the bombers.....hopefully!

[MW]

It's pretty obvious Buckley has moved away from the previous season/s structures. Reckon the players have struggled to execute it post-NAB for whatever reason.

I agree. A lot of clubs in the same boat. Changing structures and game style doesn't happen overnight.
Crisp does look lost for sure and I forgot about sidey.
We'll come good with a wolloping of the bombers.....hopefully!

That's what Port said

[bennymacca]

Cloke still there

[PatowalongaPirate]

Cloke still there

Well if he is ever going to get hold of a defence it could be Monday.

[stan]

Cloke still there

Well if he is ever going to get hold of a defence it could be Monday.

The way he is playing and the way they are delivering it to him, for him to take hold of a defense, I would have to be his opponent!

[Jim05]

Cloke still there

Well if he is ever going to get hold of a defence it could be Monday.

Played in the Ressies against us today and couldn't get a kick, got moved into the ruck and was destroyed by a lad in his 2nd game. Sounds like a severe lack of depth at the club as they were nearly 100 points behind late on

[Jim05]

Cloke 5 touches for the day and worst on ground. $850k a season for how many more years [emoji1]

[daysofourlives]

Cloke 5 touches for the day and worst on ground. $850k a season for how many more years [emoji1]

Youll have room in your salary cap after they all leave to fit him in