Collingwood Star in trouble

[Dog_ger]

The Great Didac want's to come home....

[Psyber]

Staggers me how many self righteous pricks there are on this forum. I wish I'd lived a holier than thou existence many of you have though it must be nice to sit in judgement with such surety.

Maybe you would probably be better off if you had!

Absolutely no one I went to school with, through Uni with, or worked with, has ever done anything like this sort of stuff - driving absolutely pissed and pissing in public.
A few may have sometimes got mildly drunk and driven close to or just over the limit. I did once or twice.

This is not normal behaviour, except in a small sub-group of over-indulged and under-matured sports jocks. I admit it seems to be becoming more common, presumably because kids copy these guys, who perhaps shouldn't be expected to be role models, but are that simply because they are in every kid's face in the media and held up as "stars" and made excuses for.

Good on Collingwood for finally making a stand. Hopefully all the other clubs will too.

[Rotter]

Staggers me how many self righteous pricks there are on this forum. I wish I'd lived a holier than thou existence many of you have though it must be nice to sit in judgement with such surety.

Maybe you would probably be better off if you had!

Absolutely no one I went to school with, through Uni with, or worked with, has ever done anything like this sort of stuff - driving absolutely pissed and pissing in public.
A few may have sometimes got mildly drunk and driven close to or just over the limit.

This is not normal behaviour, except in a small sub-group of over-indulged and under-matured sport jocks. I admit it seems to be becoming more common, presumably because kids copy these guys, who perhaps shouldn't be role models, but are just because they are in every kid's face in the media and held up as "stars" and made excuses for.

Good on Collingwood for finally making a stand. Hopefully all the other clubs will too.

With all due respect, you're delusional

[Psyber]

With all due respect, you're delusional

Do you mean I imagined the people around me all my life haven't been behaving like this and they really were?

Or that I am deluded about what is normal in the statistical sense?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11146&p=258159&hilit=alcoholism#p258159

Alcohol drinking status 2001 – percentage of population:
Daily 3%
Weekly 39.5%
Less than Weekly 34.6%

i.e. This is the percentage drinking any alcohol at all - not the percentage getting totally tanked.

[Dirko]

Rotter, perhaps the players have to abide by a code of conduct in which they are employed ?

I know that if I got pi55ed and drove and lost my license, my code of conduct from my ex workplace
meant that I had to resign as I could not do my job with out a valid drivers license...

Also covered public behaviour in uniform as even though I may not of been working, I represented
the company as I wore there uniform....

Like it or not they represent the Collingwood Footy Club, and if they bring the club into a bad light then
they face the consequences just as I would've for my previous company for doing such.....

[Hondo]

Staggers me how many self righteous pricks there are on this forum. I wish I'd lived a holier than thou existence many of you have though it must be nice to sit in judgement with such surety.

Like you just did? How can you tell someone's a "self righteous prick" from a 10 word forum post

If anybody acted like that they would be similarly judged - AFL player or not. Drink driving = no longer acceptable. Think about it

So how about you get off your soap box and tell us what do you think about what the lads did and what do you think about the club's penalty ....

[Rotter]

With all due respect, you're delusional

Do you mean I imagined the people around me all my life haven't been behaving like this and they really were?

Mate in direct contrast to your narrow minded recollections of youth, if what Didak and co have done was the worst any of the people I went through school and Uni had done, they would be sleeping a lot better at night than what they do now. What did you study at Uni - abstinence.

Are you telling me you never pissed behind a tree at "O" week or drove home after one too many because it wasn't far from the pub and you're kidding yourself if you try to split hairs by saying your friends were only "mildly" drunk or there abouts when they drove home as if that makes a difference from being paralytic..

[Rotter]

Staggers me how many self righteous pricks there are on this forum. I wish I'd lived a holier than thou existence many of you have though it must be nice to sit in judgement with such surety.

Like you just did? You can tell someone's a "self righteous prick" from a 10 word forum post

If anybody acted like that they would be similarly judged - AFL player or not. Think about it, its not that hard.

So how about you get off your soap box and tell us what do you think about what the lads did and what do you think about the club's penalty ....

That's the very point, I'm not on a soap box and frankly I find more interest in watching the likes of you get all roused up over it. Just out of interest how can you tell someone's a self righteuos prick from a 10 word forum post because mate, you're not that clever.

[Psyber]

[1]Are you telling me you never pissed behind a tree at "O" week or [2] drove home after one too many because it wasn't far from the pub and you're kidding yourself if you try to split hairs by saying your friends were only [3] "mildly" drunk or there abouts when they drove home as if that makes a difference from being paralytic..

1. Absolutely never in adulthood. I did once when I was 8 and was caught short in the playground [very discretely and wasn't visible].
2. Once, and decided never to do it again - it was after a dinner at Ayers House.
3. Around the 0.05 to 0.08 mark is vastly different from 0.144 or even 0.1 - the risk rises geometrically I believe.

Most drunks like to kid themselves they are "normal", just like druggies I've met through work insist that "everybody" smokes grass every day or takes "pills" at weekends "to enjoy themselves". They get snotty when you say it is not true too.

I'm not saying that is what you are doing, because I don't know you at all, but your rush to defend the behaviour does raise the question.

[Hondo]

Just out of interest how can you tell someone's a self righteuos prick from a 10 word forum post

Typo in my post now fixed

I was asking you seeing as you have an issue with judging people

[Rotter]

Rotter, perhaps the players have to abide by a code of conduct in which they are employed ?

I know that if I got pi55ed and drove and lost my license, my code of conduct from my ex workplace
meant that I had to resign as I could not do my job with out a valid drivers license...

Also covered public behaviour in uniform as even though I may not of been working, I represented
the company as I wore there uniform....

Like it or not they represent the Collingwood Footy Club, and if they bring the club into a bad light then
they face the consequences just as I would've for my previous company for doing such.....

I'm not suggesting for a moment that they not face the consequences of their actions, my points have tried to challenge the very notion that because they play AFL football and earn X amount of $$$, that they are expected to be any more resposible than You and I.

[southee]

Rotter, there is no excuse for drink driving.....imagine if the car that they were driving hit one of your family/relatives, would you be saying the statements you are saying??
I think not.

These guys are morons who are put up in a GOD like manner to the public. Ego's out of control who think that are immortal. Great role model for kids hey??

I say good decision by Collingwood.

[Hondo]

my points have tried to challenge the very notion that because they play AFL football and earn X amount of $$$, that they are expected to be any more resposible than You and I.

They're not

They are being judged and punished for what they did same as anyone else would, not who they are. If I did what they did I'd cop being called a wanker for it.

Think about it, it's not hard

[Dirko]

The last word....

and another version CLICK HERE

[Rotter]

But none of us on this forum are getting paid (at least) $150Gs a year to act with a bit of intelligence.

This attitude is what I was referring too Hondo71, it's exactly what you're saying they're not being judged for.

[magpie in the 80's]

very funny

[Rotter]

Rotter, there is no excuse for drink driving.....imagine if the car that they were driving hit one of your family/relatives, would you be saying the statements you are saying??
I think not.

These guys are morons who are put up in a GOD like manner to the public. Ego's out of control who think that are immortal. Great role model for kids hey??

I say good decision by Collingwood.

What statements have I made that even remotely condones their behaviour. My first entre in this forum was questioning how "some" on this forum are passing judgement as if they've never transgressed.
We've got Psyber who's taken the high moral ground and then confesses to driving over the limit once before he decided to never do it again as if that mitigates any culpibility to the fact.

[Dutchy]

Rotter, perhaps the players have to abide by a code of conduct in which they are employed ?

I know that if I got pi55ed and drove and lost my license, my code of conduct from my ex workplace
meant that I had to resign as I could not do my job with out a valid drivers license...

Also covered public behaviour in uniform as even though I may not of been working, I represented
the company as I wore there uniform....

Like it or not they represent the Collingwood Footy Club, and if they bring the club into a bad light then
they face the consequences just as I would've for my previous company for doing such.....

I'm not suggesting for a moment that they not face the consequences of their actions, my points have tried to challenge the very notion that because they play AFL football and earn X amount of $$$, that they are expected to be any more resposible than You and I.

Yes however cause they play football they are in the public eye and have an extra responsibility to behave, consider the thousands of kids with No's 4 and 39 on their backs who look(ed) up to these blokes....

[Rotter]

Rotter, perhaps the players have to abide by a code of conduct in which they are employed ?

I know that if I got pi55ed and drove and lost my license, my code of conduct from my ex workplace
meant that I had to resign as I could not do my job with out a valid drivers license...

Also covered public behaviour in uniform as even though I may not of been working, I represented
the company as I wore there uniform....

Like it or not they represent the Collingwood Footy Club, and if they bring the club into a bad light then
they face the consequences just as I would've for my previous company for doing such.....

I'm not suggesting for a moment that they not face the consequences of their actions, my points have tried to challenge the very notion that because they play AFL football and earn X amount of $$$, that they are expected to be any more responsible than You and I.

Yes however cause they play football they are in the public eye and have an extra responsibility to behave, consider the thousands of kids with No's 4 and 39 on their backs who look(ed) up to these blokes....

Well hopefully those kids learned that there are far better role models to model their life on.

[Rotter]

[. If I did what they did I'd cop being called a wanker for it.

I'm tipping you get called a wanker in any event