Trade week 2007

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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby redden whites » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:31 pm

SJABC wrote:Meesen to Melbourne for pick 37...
Not a bad pick up for Melbourne considering he was originally taken at 8...


Pick 37 for pick 8 is indeed a poor result for Adelaide especially when the development time is taken into account .Ya win some ya lose some.
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby MW » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:41 pm

forget the fact that Meesen was drafted at pick 8 after playing JUNIOR football......in reality he is only worth a third round pick cause he sucks at AFL football
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby Punk Rooster » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:04 pm

MW wrote:forget the fact that Meesen was drafted at pick 8 after playing JUNIOR football......in reality he is only worth a third round pick cause he sucks at AFL football

just like the share market- your worth increases with good/solid performances, or decreases with no/poor performance...
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby NFC » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:25 pm

MW wrote:forget the fact that Meesen was drafted at pick 8 after playing JUNIOR football......in reality he is only worth a third round pick cause he sucks at AFL football

In a total of 70% game time out of 200 you gathered this how???

Anyway, Moran is so average, pass.
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby Leaping Lindner » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:33 pm

Did "Weedy" get some magic beans as well. Seriously why do they send him over here? No one wants to deal with him. In fact why is he on the payroll at all??? ](*,)
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby stan » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:34 pm

To be honest, Meeson is still un tried in my opinion at AFL level. only 2 games and not much game time make shim hard to judge.
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby Punk Rooster » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:35 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:Did "Weedy" get some magic beans as well. Seriously why do they send him over here? No one wants to deal with him. In fact why is he on the payroll at all??? ](*,)

No, as Adelaide weren't trading with Fremantle...
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby Dirko » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:36 pm

It's done and CONFIRMED.
Must say as a Blue Boy am very happy with the deal...
WEST COAST get...picks 3/20 and J Kennedy.
CARLTON get..C Judd & pick 46 :shock: .
Very surprised that the Eagles gave a pick as well....
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby JK » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:37 pm

stan wrote:To be honest, Meeson is still un tried in my opinion at AFL level. only 2 games and not much game time make shim hard to judge.


There's generally a reason why someone's only received just the 2 games though ... I like Johnny Meeson, but right here, right now, he's not an AFL Footballer ... With further development (which continues with big men later than most) and returning to his home state, hopefully he can flourish and change that.
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby smac » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:50 pm

That raises another question, CP.

If a ruckman needs extra time to develop, why don't clubs wait until they are 20 to draft them? Let them cut their teeth in the state leagues.

I know that the answer is that they might miss out on a star, but it beats wasting a top pick on some lad who wants to go home 2 years later.
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby Dissident » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:54 pm

Pick 8 turns in to a third rounder... Oh well.
I don't buy in to that "but he was a top 10 pick" crap really.

Stiffy was pick 68 or 73 or something silly... but would probably go for a first rounder if traded now. Can't go both ways!
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby Dirko » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:56 pm

How many top ten picks has Adelaide had in the drafts ?
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:27 pm

[quote="smac"]That raises another question, CP.

If a ruckman needs extra time to develop, why don't clubs wait until they are 20 to draft them? Let them cut their teeth in the state leagues.

I know that the answer is that they might miss out on a star, but it beats wasting a top pick on some lad who wants to go home 2 years later.[/quote]

and theres been a few of those for the crows over the years........
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby Pup » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:35 pm

Dissident wrote:Pick 8 turns in to a third rounder... Oh well.
I don't buy in to that "but he was a top 10 pick" crap really.

Stiffy was pick 68 or 73 or something silly... but would probably go for a first rounder if traded now. Can't go both ways!



It always happens.

WCE have had Gardiner, McDougall, and Sampi all top 6 picks who have been traded away for virtually nothing. (Sampi may get delisted)

I suppose at least we got some worth out of Gardiner though.
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby Hondo » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:40 pm

If you went back and traced all the draft selections over the years every club would have a few :oops: :oops: unfortunately. On the plus side, every club has a few late draft bargains such as Johncock.

Putting pick 37 in perspective .... Aker went for pick 32 and he was a Brownlow medallist. Before anyone jumps me, I know they are completely different cases but maybe helps some Crows fans feel better about the Mattner or Meesen deals.
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby stan » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:47 pm

Any word on Hudson yet
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby NFC » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:08 pm

hondo71 wrote:If you went back and traced all the draft selections over the years every club would have a few :oops: :oops: unfortunately. On the plus side, every club has a few late draft bargains such as Johncock.

Putting pick 37 in perspective .... Aker went for pick 32 and he was a Brownlow medallist. Before anyone jumps me, I know they are completely different cases but maybe helps some Crows fans feel better about the Mattner or Meesen deals.

Strength of the 2006 draft >>>>>>> 2007 and therefore more clubs willing to part with picks. Aker was 30 at the time of trading and only had 2-3 years left.
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby blink » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:14 pm

hondo71 wrote:If you went back and traced all the draft selections over the years every club would have a few :oops: :oops: unfortunately. On the plus side, every club has a few late draft bargains such as Johncock.

Putting pick 37 in perspective .... Aker went for pick 32 and he was a Brownlow medallist. Before anyone jumps me, I know they are completely different cases but maybe helps some Crows fans feel better about the Mattner or Meesen deals.


That is right - and you only have to look at the % of top 10 draft picks each year that turn out to be duds. There are many more than what people would think.

ie Adelaide used pick 7 in 2000 (it's highest ever pick to date I believe??) to pick Laurence Angwin. #-o We all know what a train wreck he turned out to be and where his career went.... :toimonster:
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby silicone skyline » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:16 pm

Hudson has been confirmed to the bulldogs.
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Re: Trade week 2007

Postby gadj1976 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:17 pm

SJABC wrote:It's done and CONFIRMED.
Must say as a Blue Boy am very happy with the deal...
WEST COAST get...picks 3/20 and J Kennedy.
CARLTON get..C Judd & pick 46 :shock: .
Very surprised that the Eagles gave a pick as well....


Apparently they weren't going to use it, and Carlton wanted pick 30 (which has gone to Richmond because of the Mitch Morton trade).
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