Crows remain unchanged

[Magpiespower]

General rule in the NBA is that you have to wait three years to evaluate a draft.

Reakon that's even more relevant to the AFL given how young and under-developed the kids are coming into the system...

[sydney-dog]

Zorro

You could argue the same point with these selections before Dal Santo

1 4 Graham Polak East Fremantle Football Club Fremantle
1 5 Xavier Clarke St Mary's Football Club St Kilda
1 6 Ashley Sampi South Fremantle Football Club West Coast Eagles
1 7 David Hale Broadbeach Kangaroos
1 8 James Bartel Geelong Falcons Geelong
1 9 Luke Molan Geelong Falcons Melbourne
1 10 Sam Power Oakleigh Chargers Western Bulldogs
1 11 Richard Cole Eastern Rangers Collingwood

[Leaping Lindner]

Trade week did not result in any action from the Adelaide Football Club.

Crows football operations manager John Reid said: “There was some interest in Hayden Skipworth, but that did not eventuate. Hayden will remain on our list at this stage. Any development regarding adjustments to our list will not occur for a week or so.

“The Club did show interest and endeavoured to negotiate the services of Joel Patfull from Brisbane, however that could not be satisfactorily resolved.”

The Adelaide Football Club will enter the NAB National Draft on November 26 with picks 14, 32, 48 and 64.

I met an official from a Victorian Club at a friend's dinner party once, and he said it's common knowledge amongst other clubs that certain people from Adelaide are hard to deal with during trade week. And if a club has a slight or vague interest in a trade they don't bother as it's not worth the aggravation caused by this certain individual.

I don't want to name this certain person let's just say he couldn't get a League game at South when South's league team couldn't win a chook raffle. He also ran around like Henny Penny screaming about the evils of the AFL when The Crows first formed, but now seems more than happy to make his living from it.

Is this person an ex coach and was involved with another merged SANFL club ????

That would be the one. God's gift to football. Obviously The Crows aren't the evil entity they were in 1991, otherwise why would he accept a job with them and take a pay cheque?

[Magpiespower]

That would be the one. God's gift to football. Obviously The Crows aren't the evil entity they were in 1991, otherwise why would he accept a job with them and take a pay cheque?

Clearly remember his weekly anti-Crows tirades on 5AA at the time.

Cornesy returned the favour when he went on-air.

Very entertaining - Cornes basically said he wasn't a coaches ar$ehole.

[mal]

Yeah good work Dutchy. Pity there aren't a greater range of smileys to choose from so you could show a couple of those on a different level (ala Judd).

Much has been said in the past about the Crows taking Reilly before Dal Santo. 18 months ago I probably agreed with the Dal Santo argument but now I'd be pretty happy with Reilly. Looking at the bottom of the list, what they wouldn't give now to have Hansen running around at CHF.

Obviously Reilly is a well natured impressionable popular person,
because you cant be serious on footballing ability v Dal Santo.

[Zorro]

Zorro

You could argue the same point with these selections before Dal Santo

1 4 Graham Polak East Fremantle Football Club Fremantle
1 5 Xavier Clarke St Mary's Football Club St Kilda
1 6 Ashley Sampi South Fremantle Football Club West Coast Eagles
1 7 David Hale Broadbeach Kangaroos
1 8 James Bartel Geelong Falcons Geelong
1 9 Luke Molan Geelong Falcons Melbourne
1 10 Sam Power Oakleigh Chargers Western Bulldogs
1 11 Richard Cole Eastern Rangers Collingwood

SD, yes that's correct for those clubs that had selections before Adelaide. None of those players above were available when the Crows picked up Reilly.

[sydney-dog]

Victorian clubs saying Crows are difficult to trade with

well that is the Pot calling the Kettle Black

[Blue Boy]

2001 Super Draft
Round Pick Player Recruited from Club
Priority 1 Luke Hodge Geelong Falcons Hawthorn
Priority 2 Luke Ball Sandringham Dragons St Kilda
Priority 3 Chris Judd Sandringham Dragons West Coast Eagles
1 4 Graham Polak East Fremantle Football Club Fremantle
1 5 Xavier Clarke St Mary's Football Club St Kilda
1 6 Ashley Sampi South Fremantle Football Club West Coast Eagles
1 7 David Hale Broadbeach Kangaroos
1 8 James Bartel Geelong Falcons Geelong
1 9 Luke Molan Geelong Falcons Melbourne
1 10 Sam Power Oakleigh Chargers Western Bulldogs
1 11 Richard Cole Eastern Rangers Collingwood
1 12 Brent Reilly Calder Cannons Adelaide
1 13 Nick Dal Santo Bendigo Pioneers St Kilda
1 14 Ashley Watson Bendigo Pioneers Kangaroos
1 15 Barry Brooks Tasmania Mariners Port Adelaide
1 16 Rick Ladson Bendigo Pioneers Hawthorn
1 17 James Kelly Calder Cannons Geelong
1 18 Shane Harvey Northern Knights Essendon
1 19 Jason Gram Gippsland Power Brisbane Lions
2 20 Daniel Elstone Bendigo Pioneers Hawthorn
2 21 Matt Maguire Geelong Falcons St Kilda
2 22 Mark Seaby West Perth Football Club West Coast
2 23 Charlie Gardiner Sandringham Dragons Geelong
2 24 Steve Johnson Murray Bushrangers Geelong
2 25 Steven Armstrong Perth Football Club Melbourne
2 26 Aaron Rogers NSW/ACT Rams Melbourne
2 27 Tom Davidson Geelong Falcons Collingwood
2 28 Mark Powell Murray Bushrangers Sydney
2 29 Lewis Roberts-Thomson NSW/ACT Rams Sydney
2 30 Rod Crowe Sandringham Dragons Kangaroos

some fair players there - other significants after top 30 include Sam Mitchell, Campbell Brown, Montagna, Hansen, Playfair, Waite. Then Miller, Medhurst, Swan, Schnieder and White all taken in the 50's and 60's

Good work Dutch !!!

[Blue Boy]

Trade week did not result in any action from the Adelaide Football Club.

Crows football operations manager John Reid said: “There was some interest in Hayden Skipworth, but that did not eventuate. Hayden will remain on our list at this stage. Any development regarding adjustments to our list will not occur for a week or so.

“The Club did show interest and endeavoured to negotiate the services of Joel Patfull from Brisbane, however that could not be satisfactorily resolved.”

The Adelaide Football Club will enter the NAB National Draft on November 26 with picks 14, 32, 48 and 64.

I met an official from a Victorian Club at a friend's dinner party once, and he said it's common knowledge amongst other clubs that certain people from Adelaide are hard to deal with during trade week. And if a club has a slight or vague interest in a trade they don't bother as it's not worth the aggravation caused by this certain individual.

I don't want to name this certain person let's just say he couldn't get a League game at South when South's league team couldn't win a chook raffle. He also ran around like Henny Penny screaming about the evils of the AFL when The Crows first formed, but now seems more than happy to make his living from it.

Is this person an ex coach and was involved with another merged SANFL club ????

That would be the one. God's gift to football. Obviously The Crows aren't the evil entity they were in 1991, otherwise why would he accept a job with them and take a pay cheque?

Cheers LL !!!

[Blue Boy]

Victorian clubs saying Crows are difficult to trade with

well that is the Pot calling the Kettle Black

Sadly SD - it looks like it is not far away from the truth !!!

[am Bays]

That would be the one. God's gift to football. Obviously The Crows aren't the evil entity they were in 1991, otherwise why would he accept a job with them and take a pay cheque?

Clearly remember his weekly anti-Crows tirades on 5AA at the time.

Cornesy returned the favour when he went on-air.

Very entertaining - Cornes basically said he wasn't a coaches ar$ehole.

I remember Robert Oatey giving me the look that said, "You can't be serious" when I mentioned a certain ex-SANFL coach, when I went to the SANFL with an idea on writing a book based on interviewing prominant current (10 years ago) and ex-SANFL coaches to get their philosophies and tactics on winning football....

[SimonH]

Despite all of the evidence, people still believe that the draft is something more than a lottery. If you've got a pick in the top 5, it's a lottery with the odds well in your favour, but otherwise there is statistically a fairly high likelihood that you'll be wasting your time. While that likelihood obviously grows as you get closer to the bottom, it's still pretty darn high near the top.

2001 is much-hyped as the best draft of at least this decade, if not all time. And out of the 10 players taken at picks 11-20, there are 5 definite or fairly likely failures: 3 delisted, plus Cole and Brooks who are no longer at their original club anyway. (I'm not including Rick Ladson in that list because he belatedly showed something in 2006.)

Outside of the top 5 picks, talk of 'superdrafts' and 'weak drafts' is tripe as well. Unless you have a top 10 pick (which the Clones don't), 'hanging on to our picks in this superdraft' is a load of PR nonsense. Adelaide's chance of picking up a genius at pick 14 in the 2006 draft, will be about the same as its chance of picking up a genius at pick 14 in any other draft. They appear to have done alright with pick 16 (Richard Douglas) in the supposedly 'weak' 2005 draft.

[Rik E Boy]

Charlie Gardiner or even

regards,

REB

[sydney-dog]

SimonH

mate I think the tem lottery is mainly applied to picks 25-60, these days it's hard to miss with a top 10-15 pick but from pick 25 onwards you can still hit the JACKPOT, look at this years all Australian team, O'Keefe was selected at #56 and the draft is full of these stories

[Macca19]

Since the draft become more of a science, the 2001 draft is considered to be the best of all time. The depth of the draft was very good.

Last years draft was supposed to be the worst of all time. A part time scout that posts on an AFL forum has stated he would pick 8 or 9 players this year above last years no.1 pick. The depth this year is supposed to be very good.

Its all based on potential. A top 10 pick doesnt guarantee you a superstar. There have been dozens of top 10 picks that have either never played a game or have never impacted. Noone can predict how a youngster will develop mentally and physically.

[Macca19]

SimonH

mate I think the tem lottery is mainly applied to picks 25-60, these days it's hard to miss with a top 10-15 pick but from pick 25 onwards you can still hit the JACKPOT, look at this years all Australian team, O'Keefe was selected at #56 and the draft is full of these stories

Not exactly true. Almost every pick is a risk. There arent many sure thing 100% guaranteed long term players each year. Maybe the top 3 of each year. If its a deep draft then maybe a couple more.

[Punk Rooster]

Drafting is 100% spot on now, compared to the early days (86-88)- players would refuse to leave the SANFL for the VFL, they restricted themselves to recruiting from country zones, no-one would take a young kid.
They have come a long way.

[thegossip]

interesting to see that 13 out of top 30 in that draft have not made it.