Round 17: Game Previews/Reviews + General Discussion

[hearts on fire]

FRIDAY JULY 25:

Hawthorn vs Geelong @ Melbourne Cricket Ground - 7:40pm

SATURDAY JULY 26:

Essendon vs Collingwood @ Melbourne Cricket Ground - 2:10pm

West Coast vs St.Kilda @ Subiaco Oval - 2:10pm

Richmond vs Brisbane @ Telstra Dome - 7:10pm

Sydney vs Adelaide @ Sydney Cricket Ground - 7:10pm

SUNDAY JULY 27:

Port Adelaide vs Fremantle @ AAMI Stadium - 12:40pm

Melbourne vs North Melbourne @ Melbourne Cricket Ground - 2:10pm

Western Bulldogs vs Carlton @ Telstra Dome - 4:40pm

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HAWTHORN v GEELONG
Hawthorn
B: Brent Guerra, Stephen Gilham, Rick Ladson
HB: Campbell Brown, Trent Croad, Grant Birchall
C: Jordan Lewis, Sam Mitchell, Xavier Ellis
HF: Chance Bateman, Lance Franklin, Michael Osborne
F: Mark Williams, Jarryd Roughead, Cyril Rioli
Foll: Robert Campbell, Luke Hodge, Brad Sewell
I/C: Tom Murphy, Travis Tuck, Simon Taylor, Cam Stokes

EMG: Tim Clarke, Beau Dowler, Jarryd Morton
In: Stokes
Out: Jarryd Morton

Geelong
B: Tom Harley, Matthew Scarlett, Andrew Mackie
HB: Harry Taylor, Darren Milburn, Corey Enright
C: James Kelly, Max Rooke, Jimmy Bartel
HF: Steve Johnson, Cameron Mooney, Ryan Gamble
F: Paul Chapman, Tom Lonergan, Mathew Stokes
Foll: Brad Ottens, Joel Corey, Joel Selwood
I/C: Josh Hunt, Mark Blake, Brent Prismall, Travis Varcoe

EMG: David Johnson, Simon Hogan, Shannon Byrnes
No change



ESSENDON v COLLINGWOOD
Essendon
B: Jarrod Atkinson, Dustin Fletcher, Jay Nash
HB: Adam McPhee, Patrick Ryder, Henry Slattery
C: Kyle Reimers, Jobe Watson, Adam Ramanauskas
HF: Angus Monfries, Matthew Lloyd, Scott Lucas
F: Leroy Jetta, Jason Laycock, Sam Lonergan
Foll: David Hille, Andrew Welsh, Brent Stanton
I/C: Mal Michael, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Damien Peverill, Ricky Dyson

EMG: Cale Hooker, Rhys Magin, John Williams
In: Fletcher
Out: Jay Neagle (ankle)

Collingwood
B: Heath Shaw, Shane Wakelin, Tarkyn Lockyer
HB: Martin Clarke, Nick Maxwell, Harry O’Brien
C: Ben Johnson, Scott Burns, Rhyce Shaw
HF: Scott Pendlebury, Travis Cloke, Chris Bryan
F: Alan Didak, Nathan Brown, Paul Medhurst
Foll: Cameron Wood, Dane Swan, Dale Thomas
I/C: Shane O’Bree, Sharrod Wellingham, Leon Davis, John Anthony

EMG: Danny Stanley, Tyson Goldsack, Alan Toovey
In: Davis
Out: Tyson Goldsack



WEST COAST v ST KILDA
West Coast
B: Mark Nicoski, Eric Mackenzie, Tyson Stenglein
HB: Adam Selwood, Beau Wilkes, Andrew Embley
C: Michael Braun, Matt Priddis, Brent Staker
HF: David Wirrpanda, Ashley Hansen, Steven Armstrong
F: Mark LeCras, Quinten Lynch, Mark Seaby
Foll: Dean Cox, Chad Fletcher, Jamie McNamara
I/C: Brad Ebert, Ben McKinley, Scott Selwood, Matt Spangher

EMG: Tim Houlihan, Pat McGinnity, Tony Notte
In: Braun, Armstrong, Seaby, Spangher
Out: Kennedy (knee), Glass (thigh), Houlihan, Davis.

St Kilda
B: Sean Dempster, Max Hudghton, Jason Gram
HB: Brendon Goddard, Sam Gilbert, Sam Fisher
C: Andrew McQualter, Nick Dal Santo, Lenny Hayes
HF: Robert Harvey, Nick Riewoldt, Robert Eddy
F: Clint Jones, Michael Gardiner, David Armitage
Foll: Steven King, Luke Ball, Leigh Montagna
I/C: Adam Schneider, Jason Blake, Stephen Milne, Aaron Fiora

EMG: Jarryn Geary, Michael Rix, Shane Birss
In: M. Gardiner
Out: Justin Koschitzke (susp)



RICHMOND v BRISBANE
Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Will Thursfield, Kelvin Moore
HB: Jordan McMahon, Luke McGuane, Matt White
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Trent Cotchin, Jack Riewoldt, Mitch Morton
F: Nathan Brown, Jay Schulz, Shane Edwards
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Kane Johnson, Nathan Foley
I/C: Adam Pattison, Richard Tambling, Daniel Jackson, Joel Bowden

EMG: Chris Hyde, Danny Meyer, Greg Tivendale
In: Richardson, Jackson
Out: Cleve Hughes (back), Dean Polo

Brisbane
B: Josh Drummond, Daniel Merrett, Joel Patfull
HB: Robert Copeland, Jason Roe, Ashley McGrath
C: Anthony Corrie, Simon Black, Tim Notting
HF: Michael Rischitelli, Jonathan Brown, Jared Brennan
F: Cheynee Stiller, Daniel Bradshaw, Mitch Clark
Foll: Jamie Charman, Luke Power, Travis Johnstone
I/C: Tom Collier, Bradd Dalziell, Jed Adcock, Justin Sherman

EMG: Rhan Hooper, James Hawksley, Scott Harding
In: Adcock, Sherman
Out: Rhan Hooper, Scott Harding



SYDNEY v ADELAIDE
Sydney
B: Paul Bevan, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Martin Mattner
HB: Craig Bolton, Ted Richards, Tadhg Kennelly
C: Kieren Jack, Jarrad McVeigh, Craig Bird
HF: Ryan O’Keefe, Adam Goodes, Luke Ablett
F: Henry Playfair, Barry Hall, Jarred Moore
Foll: Darren Jolly, Brett Kirk, Jude Bolton
I/C: Peter Everitt, Heath Grundy, Nick Malceski, Matthew O'Dwyer

EMG: Luke Brennan, Ben Mathews, Nick Smith
In: Hall, Malceski
Out: Leo Barry (hamstring), Michael O'Loughlin (ankle)

Adelaide
B: Kris Massie, Ben Rutten, Nathan Bassett
HB: Brad Symes, Nathan Bock, Michael Doughty
C: Nathan van Berlo, Simon Goodwin, Bernie Vince
HF: Andrew McLeod, Nick Gill, Richard Douglas
F: Jason Porplyzia, Kurt Tippett, Chris Knights
Foll: Ivan Maric, Scott Thompson, Tyson Edwards
I/C: Robert Shirley, David Mackay, Scott Stevens, Bryce Campbell

EMG: Brad Moran, Andy Otten, Jared Petrenko
In: Porplyzia, Gill, Mackay
Out: Luke Jericho (hamstring), Graham Johncock, Brad Moran



PORT ADELAIDE v FREMANTLE
Port Adelaide
B: Michael Pettigrew, Alipate Carlile, Nick Lower
HB: Jacob Surjan, Troy Chaplin, Nathan Lonie
C: Domenic Cassisi, Kane Cornes, Travis Boak
HF: David Rodan, Warren Tredrea, Steven Salopek
F: Justin Westhoff, Daniel Motlop, Brett Ebert
Foll: Dean Brogan, Shaun Burgoyne, Danyle Pearce

I/C (from): Greg Bentley, Fabian DeLuca, Matthew Thomas, Tom Logan, Toby Thurstans, Paul Stewart, Matthew Westhoff
In: Boak, Deluca, Stewart, Thomas, Thurstans, M Westhoff
Out: Chad Cornes (shoulder, knee), Brendon Lade, Adam Thomson

Fremantle
B: Scott Thornton, Antoni Grover, Michael Johnson
HB: David Mundy, Luke McPharlin, Josh Head
C: Garrick Ibbotson, Ryan Crowley, Paul Duffield
HF: Jeff Farmer, Chris Tarrant, Chris Mayne
F: Shaun McManus, Matthew Pavlich, Ryan Murphy
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, Byron Schammer, Josh Carr

I/C (from): Mark Johnson, Adam Campbell, Rhys Palmer, Steven Dodd, Robert Warnock, Brett Peake, Kepler Bradley
In: Murphy, Palmer, Duffield, Bradley, Campbell
Out: Brock O'Brien (hamstring), Andrew Browne (inj)



MELBOURNE v NORTH MELBOURNE
Melbourne
B: Matthew Whelan, Colin Garland, Matthew Warnock
HB: Chris Johnson, Daniel Bell, Lynden Dunn
C: Cale Morton, Cameron Bruce, Simon Buckley
HF: Colin Sylvia, Matthew Bate, Aaron Davey
F: Michael Newton, Brad Miller, James McDonald
Foll: Mark Jamar, Clint Bartram, Nathan Jones

I/C (from): Nathan Carroll, Paul Johnson, Addam Maric, Stefan Martin, Shane Valenti, Jeff White, Austin Wonaeamirri
In: Carroll, Maric, McDonald, White
Out: Paul Wheatley (calf)
New: Adam Maric (Greenvale)

North Melbourne
B: Shannon Watt, Michael Firrito, Daniel Pratt
HB: Gavin Urquhart, Josh Gibson, Leigh Harding
C: Matt Campbell, Daniel Harris, Brent Harvey
HF: Lachlan Hansen, David Hale, Corey Jones
F: Scott McMahon, Drew Petrie, Lindsay Thomas
Foll: Todd Goldstein, Adam Simpson, Daniel Wells

I/C (from): Brady Rawlings, Sam Power, Shannon Grant, Jess Sinclair, Leigh Brown, Blake Grima, Matt Riggio
In: Sinclair, Grima, Brown, Riggio
Out: Ben Ross (ankle)



WESTERN BULLDOGS v CARLTON
Western Bulldogs
B: Dale Morris, BrianLake, Ryan Hargrave
HB: Dylan Addison, Tom Williams, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Nathan Eagleton, Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross
HF: Robert Murphy, Mitch Hahn, Brad Johnson
F: Jason Akermanis, Will Minson, Scott Welsh
Foll: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Ryan Griffen

I/C (from): Andrejs Everitt, Daniel Giansiracusa, Jarrod Harbrow, Josh Hill, Farren Ray, Stephen Tiller, Callan Ward
In: Hill, Ward, Williams
Out: -

Carlton
B: Andrew Carrazzo, Michael Jamison, Bret Thornton
HB: Heath Scotland, Jarrad Waite, Nick Stevens
C: Jordan Russell, Chris Judd, Kade Simpson
HF: Marc Murphy, Adam Hartlett, Simon Wiggins
F: Eddie Betts, Brendan Fevola, Brad Fisher
Foll: Cameron Cloke, Bryce Gibbs, Shaun Grigg

I/C (from): Dennis Armfield, Mark Austin, Adam Bentick, Steven Browne, Shaun Hampson, Matthew Kreuzer, Andrew Walker
In: Armfield, Browne, Hampson
Out: -

[Mr66]

Geelong by truckloads, in front of truckloads (85,000 +).
Others,
Collingwood, ditto.
West Coast
Richmond
Sydney
Port
North
Western B-Dogs

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Geelong
Collingwood
St.Kilda
Brisbane
Sydney
Port Adelaide
North Melbourne
Western Bulldogs

[brod]

Hawthorn (14)
Collingwood
StKilda
Brisbane
Sydney
Port
NMelbourne
WBulldogs

[stan]

I thought in the second half the hawks were all over the cats, but the cats showed plenty and won without Abblet, Milburn, Wojjjiinnski, Ling and losing Chapman at half time. A few big names missing there.

Some intersting points, young Tayor for the cats did well on Roughhead. I think its fair to say Scarlett was probably beaten by Franklin but Frankin missing so many shots didnt hurt them enough.
Also an important note is that when Ottens was in the ruck the midfield battle was pretty even with the cats slighting on top, but once blake came on Cambell and Taylor got on top and the hawks started to roll. Of course this might not be so obvious if Abblett and Ling were there.

[Mr66]

Collingwood's loss today not only dismisses them as premiership chances, but makes their final eight prospects look very shaky.
This is from a side that beat Geelong by 13 goals.

[Brad]

Collingwood have been very patchy this year.

[Thiele]

2 bring on the olympics

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2 bring on the olympics

me too, what a shamble....

[Dutchy]

Roos jump 5 spots with their win huge game next week against the Lions, winner a huge show for the top 4

[mal]

I watched about 5 minutes of the SS V AC game
Yawn........
Gee its awful when they play each other, its like watching a combination of soccer/rugby

[brod]

Hawthorn (14)
Collingwood
StKilda
Brisbane
Sydney
Port
NMelbourne
WBulldogs

Sorry, I forgot to state that these were my tips for the losing sides this weekend....7/8 well done to me

[Thiele]

Just for the record i kinow someone at work got 8