Underbelly

[Swooper16]

Just a little confused but my history lesson tells me that the Kane brithers did the Bookie Robbery and its was in 1976 and Donald Mackay was killed in 1977 but in the show the events are the other way round

Some one should get the timeline correct.

Just for the record (and being a music nerd ) the song they were working out to to get fit for the robbery was "Girl in a sweater" by The Hard Ons and that wasn't released until 1986!!!!

I am not sure they are that fussed about the music timeline LL (which is a bit of a shame) There was a song played last night - Cant remember what it was called but the main lyric was "going to the Casino, what can possibly go wrong?" and that was released in 2008.

Think there were a few examples in the previous series as well. 1 on that springs to mind was "Dont Fight It" from the Panics.

You would think if they were going to go to that sort of effort to try and capture the era they would get the music right.

[Leaping Lindner]

Just a little confused but my history lesson tells me that the Kane brithers did the Bookie Robbery and its was in 1976 and Donald Mackay was killed in 1977 but in the show the events are the other way round

Some one should get the timeline correct.

Just for the record (and being a music nerd ) the song they were working out to to get fit for the robbery was "Girl in a sweater" by The Hard Ons and that wasn't released until 1986!!!!

I am not sure they are that fussed about the music timeline LL (which is a bit of a shame) There was a song played last night - Cant remember what it was called but the main lyric was "going to the Casino, what can possibly go wrong?" and that was released in 2008.

Think there were a few examples in the previous series as well. 1 on that springs to mind was "Dont Fight It" from the Panics.

You would think if they were going to go to that sort of effort to try and capture the era they would get the music right.

I didn't recognise the song you mentioned but I was pretty sure it wasn't from the 1970s. It didn't sound like Skyhooks or Sherbet
The "introduction" at the start with Dragon is a whole other story as well. IIRC their original manager was in jail at the time for drug trafficking.

[Jimmy_041]

Just a little confused but my history lesson tells me that the Kane brithers did the Bookie Robbery and its was in 1976 and Donald Mackay was killed in 1977 but in the show the events are the other way round

Some one should get the timeline correct.

Just for the record (and being a music nerd ) the song they were working out to to get fit for the robbery was "Girl in a sweater" by The Hard Ons and that wasn't released until 1986!!!!

I am not sure they are that fussed about the music timeline LL (which is a bit of a shame) There was a song played last night - Cant remember what it was called but the main lyric was "going to the Casino, what can possibly go wrong?" and that was released in 2008.

Think there were a few examples in the previous series as well. 1 on that springs to mind was "Dont Fight It" from the Panics.

You would think if they were going to go to that sort of effort to try and capture the era they would get the music right.

I didn't recognise the song you mentioned but I was pretty sure it wasn't from the 1970s. It didn't sound like Skyhooks or Sherbet
The "introduction" at the start with Dragon is a whole other story as well. IIRC their original manager was in jail at the time for drug trafficking.

For some reason, I can only recall the boat scene being the start.....must have been George Freeman's white hair

[Leaping Lindner]

The band playing at the party that Matthew Newton's character turns up to is meant to be Dragon.

[Lunchcutter]

The two hour first episode is beating repeated on Friday night at 9:30pm I think.

thank you Gozu, I apppreciate this information lc

[heater31]

Just a little confused but my history lesson tells me that the Kane brithers did the Bookie Robbery and its was in 1976 and Donald Mackay was killed in 1977 but in the show the events are the other way round

Some one should get the timeline correct.

Just for the record (and being a music nerd ) the song they were working out to to get fit for the robbery was "Girl in a sweater" by The Hard Ons and that wasn't released until 1986!!!!

I am not sure they are that fussed about the music timeline LL (which is a bit of a shame) There was a song played last night - Cant remember what it was called but the main lyric was "going to the Casino, what can possibly go wrong?" and that was released in 2008.

Think there were a few examples in the previous series as well. 1 on that springs to mind was "Dont Fight It" from the Panics.

You would think if they were going to go to that sort of effort to try and capture the era they would get the music right.

Philadelphia Grand Jury is the band and they are from Sydney and unsigned as far as I know.

That very song Going to the Casino has been getting some air play on JJJ recently. currently on Tour with the with the Laneway festival and will be back in Adelaide on the 28th of Feb @ Jive

[Zelezny Chucks]

The band playing at the party that Matthew Newton's character turns up to is meant to be Dragon.

The guy boxing with one of the Kane brothers was Mick Gatto as well.

[Gozu]

I haven't looked to confirm it but it seems like this series is tying into Blue Murder as well. I believe that Chris Flannery character was the same Mr Rent to kill from Blue Murder. I don't want to sound too negative but from last night's episode Blue Murder shits all over this.

Roger 'The Dodger' Rogerson!

[Gozu]

The two hour first episode is beating repeated on Friday night at 9:30pm I think.

thank you Gozu, I apppreciate this information lc

No probs, obviously that should be "being repeated". I saw an ad after the cricket tonight for it too.

[Jimmy_041]

I haven't looked to confirm it but it seems like this series is tying into Blue Murder as well. I believe that Chris Flannery character was the same Mr Rent to kill from Blue Murder. I don't want to sound too negative but from last night's episode Blue Murder shits all over this.

Roger 'The Dodger' Rogerson!

It is tying in - I reckon Blue Murder was shot (pardon the pun) for a different audience, but I agree, much better production. IMO, doesn't matter to have 2 - its all good stuff and beats
"The Fattest Ba$tard" / "Who can Stick Their Head up Their A$$ The Longest" etc

ABC should replay it during the next couple of months - everyone will watch it.

[Magpiespower]

Just for the record (and being a music nerd ) the song they were working out to to get fit for the robbery was "Girl in a sweater" by The Hard Ons and that wasn't released until 1986!!!!

Billy Fields stuck out as well.

IIRC, 'Bad Habits' was released 1981/82.

Sums up the show nicely - lazy and sloppy.

[Gozu]

I haven't looked to confirm it but it seems like this series is tying into Blue Murder as well. I believe that Chris Flannery character was the same Mr Rent to kill from Blue Murder. I don't want to sound too negative but from last night's episode Blue Murder shits all over this.

Roger 'The Dodger' Rogerson!

It is tying in - I reckon Blue Murder was shot (pardon the pun) for a different audience, but I agree, much better production. IMO, doesn't matter to have 2 - its all good stuff and beats
"The Fattest Ba$tard" / "Who can Stick Their Head up Their A$$ The Longest" etc

ABC should replay it during the next couple of months - everyone will watch it.

See we can agree on something Jimmy? Foxtel have repeated Blue Murder a number of times and it's just recently come out on DVD for around $15.

[Jimmy_041]

I haven't looked to confirm it but it seems like this series is tying into Blue Murder as well. I believe that Chris Flannery character was the same Mr Rent to kill from Blue Murder. I don't want to sound too negative but from last night's episode Blue Murder shits all over this.

Roger 'The Dodger' Rogerson!

It is tying in - I reckon Blue Murder was shot (pardon the pun) for a different audience, but I agree, much better production. IMO, doesn't matter to have 2 - its all good stuff and beats
"The Fattest Ba$tard" / "Who can Stick Their Head up Their A$$ The Longest" etc

ABC should replay it during the next couple of months - everyone will watch it.

See we can agree on something Jimmy? Foxtel have repeated Blue Murder a number of times and it's just recently come out on DVD for around $15.

We actually agree on quite a few things, but that's no fun

[ORDoubleBlues]

Is Peter O'Brien playing Richie Benaud?

[blink]

Is Peter O'Brien playing Richie Benaud?

Haha!

[Interceptor]

Griffith locals pick up on Underbelly inaccuracies:

Not quite the way it was but Underbelly stirs emotions
Malcolm Brown | February 14, 2009

Barbara Mackay did not work in her husband Don's furniture shop. Robert Trimbole did not live in a "grass castle" in the Griffith hinterland, or grow oranges. And he did not tell Don Mackay - at least in public - that he would kill him.

People of Griffith, the Riverina town where Mackay was killed in 1977, picked up the dramatic licence in this week's Underbelly 2 on Channel Nine. Don Mackay's son, Paul Mackay, was not available when the Herald called, but he was quoted in Griffith's Area News saying the show was riddled with errors.

"My mother never worked one day in the family business, while in the show she was in there answering phones," he said. "And I've never heard of the character of the local police officer they showed.

"I realise the producers qualified it by saying it tells the essential truth of the story, but I don't know how telling a lie helps them tell the truth."

The wife of a former councillor, who asked not to be named, said the inaccuracies worried her. Barbara Mackay was a physiotherapist who gave prenatal classes in Griffith. Bob Trimbole lived in town, she said, but not in a huge estate. He might have owned a property in the district but he was not growing oranges.

Some of the events in the program touch on reality. Trimbole is on record as having gone in an irate state to the Griffith police station in 1974 saying he would "kill" Mackay and his wife and children.

But he did not do it to his face after a public meeting, as depicted in Underbelly.

Some townsfolk found the depiction of police corruption the most disturbing. John Dal Broi, the mayor of Griffith on and off for 16 years between 1980 and 2006, said: "Even if the producers of this show did not get some of it right, it showed there was excessive corruption right to the top. It just makes you feel so angry that Don Mackay and the rest of the community put so much faith in the system.

"It was commonly known that Don did not trust the local police and he went above them to Sydney people. And now it turns out they were not much better."

Mackay, a campaigner against the marijuana trade, had tried to stand in 1973 and 1976 as a state Liberal candidate. He was killed by hitman James Frederick Bazley in the car park of the Griffith Hotel Motel on Friday, November 15, 1977.

It emerged that three local detectives, Jack Ellis, Brian Borthwick and John Robbins, had not pursued information about marijuana in the Griffith district with any vigour. They were convicted of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, dismissed from the police force and jailed. But there were more queries raised about the police investigation run from Sydney.

The series has also brought back dark thoughts about the matter of Patrick Joseph Keenan, a fruitfly inspector who in 1974 reported his discovery of a marijuana packing shed. Two weeks later another man with the same name was found dead. It was ruled an accident, but it sank deep into the local psyche.


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/entertainment/not-quite-the-way-it-was-but-underbelly-stirs-emotions/2009/02/13/1234028338272.html

[panther]

Im going to tape the shows for 2 reasons
A : to fast forward all the commercials out
B : just in case Anna Hutchinson gets her gear off [and I will keep the tape.]

Lets hope for episode 2

[Punk Rooster]

Just a little confused but my history lesson tells me that the Kane brithers did the Bookie Robbery and its was in 1976 and Donald Mackay was killed in 1977 but in the show the events are the other way round

Some one should get the timeline correct.

no, the Kane brothers had nothing to do with the robbery- Ray Chuck (Raymond Patrick "Chuck" Bennett) & his gang did it.
The Kane brothers became interested in relieving Chuck & his crew of their earn.
Ray Chuck's aleged crew-
Ray Chuck (shot by Brian Kane on the steps of the Supreme Court)
Tony "Veggie" McNamara (died of a heroin overdose on Easy St, Collingwood)
Ian Carroll (shot by Russell "Mad Dog" Cox)
Laurie Prendergast (disappeared in 1985, round the same time as Chris Flannery)
Norm Lee (shot dead by SOG during a heist in 1992 at Melbourne Airport)
& 1 un-named person (now overseas).
There were 6 involved, but some associates also got a chop- Dennis "Fatty" Smith (allegedly) was one

Ray Chuck, Laurie Prendergast & someone else (forget who) kidnapped & executed Les Kane, Brian then shot Ray.
Brian himself was gunned down in a pub 2 years later.

[The Big Shrek]

What a show! Tit count was off the charts! Lucky bastard Newton was sucking on them all episode.

[Dirko]

What a show! Tit count was off the charts! Lucky bastard Newton was sucking on them all episode.

That chick is just unbelievable......