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Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby scott » Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:41 pm

Reserves
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SANFL Reserves   Pld   W   L   D   For  Agst    %    Pts
Glenelg           16  11   5   0  1585  1223  56.45   22
Norwood           16  11   5   0  1541  1287  54.49   22
South Adelaide    16  10   6   0  1335  1494  47.19   20
Central District  16   9   7   0  1299  1151  53.02   18
North Adelaide    15   8   7   0  1355  1209  52.85   16
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Sturt             15   7   8   0  1297  1305  49.85   14
Port Magpies      16   7   9   0  1404  1433  49.49   14
Eagles            15   4  11   0  1140  1453  43.96    8
West Adelaide     15   3  12   0  1137  1538  42.50    6

(Five rounds remaining)

Unlike the Under 19s/17s, the reserves this season is a bit more even, with seven teams still vying for five places. Glenelg and Norwood head the competition with 11-5 records each, with the Bays currently enjoying a purple patch with six successive wins, while the Legs have been hot and cold for the past month, with three wins in six matches.

Reserves remain as the only competition South has been a genuine premiership threat in, and even still their results this season haven't been convincing. After eight rounds they sat with a 6-2 analysis and yet, still had a negative percentage. About two months later, they sit third with 10 wins in 16 matches, a negative percentage and their largest win not eclipsing four goals. How far they travel in the finals is uncertain.

Central District and North Adelaide round out the five currently with 18 and 16 premiership points respectively, but closely following behind are Sturt and Port, each on 14 points. The Magpies would need to discover a second wind to snap their current poor form, with only one win in the past five matches after looking a strong chance for finals after their 125-point demolition of the Eagles in round 13, but everything has fallen pear-shaped since.

Sturt is still an outside chance for finals, however, like Port, they too have fallen in a hole, with only one win in the past two months after also looking a strong contender for finals after six wins in their first nine matches.

The games to watch out for in the remaining five rounds are North v Centrals (Round 19), Glenelg v Port (Round 19), South v Centrals (Round 20), Glenelg v North (Round 21), Norwood v Port (Round 21), Norwood v Centrals (Round 22), Norwood v South (Round 23) and North v Sturt (Round 23).


Under 19s
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SANFL Under 19   Pld   W   L   D   For  Agst    %    Pts
Port Magpies      16  16   0   0  2056   880  70.03   32
Central District  16  11   5   0  1245   999  55.48   22
Sturt             15  11   4   0  1389  1193  53.80   22
Glenelg           16  10   6   0  1780  1334  57.16   20
North Adelaide    15   8   7   0  1199  1445  45.35   16
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West Adelaide     15   6   9   0  1287  1359  48.64   12
Eagles            15   4  11   0  1078  1350  44.40    8
Norwood           16   2  14   0  1035  1770  36.90    4
South Adelaide    16   2  14   0   896  1635  35.40    4

(Five rounds remaining)

The race to the premiership is almost unambiguous in the under 19s, with Port comfortably heading the competition with 16 wins from 16 matches, with all bar two of their victories being in excess of seven goals. However, stranger things happen come finals time, and it's incredible to think that bottom-placed South has come the closest to the Magpies this year, going down by only 20 points in their round 14 clash.

The rest of the final five is still wide open, but the teams currently nested in the top five appear certain to remain there, and while West is still an outside chance to supersede North, they would have to win at least three of their remaining five matches - provided North remain winless - and that looks unlikely with the Bloods only achieving one win - by five points over the Eagles in round 14 - in the past seven weeks.

Woodville-West Torrens can still mathematically achieve the finals, but rather than crapping on for a paragraph about the possibilities, it'd save my time as it would only be wishful thinking/hoping on their behalf.

The games to watch out for in the remaining five rounds are Port v Glenelg (Round 19), Centrals v North (Round 19), Sturt v Port (Round 20), Glenelg v North (Round 21), Sturt v Centrals (Round 21), Sturt v Glenelg (Round 22) and Sturt v North (Round 23). And for the anything-can-happen factor, Round 21's Norwood v Port clash could have an entertaining twist.


Under 17s
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SANFL Under 17   Pld   W   L   D   For  Agst    %    Pts
Norwood           17  12   5   0  1653  1124  59.52   24
Port Magpies      17  12   5   0  1842  1321  58.24   24
North Adelaide    16  12   4   0  1646  1343  55.07   24
Sturt             16  11   5   0  1890  1239  60.40   22
Eagles            16   9   7   0  1526  1446  51.35   18
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Glenelg           17   6  11   0  1382  1951  41.46   12
South Adelaide    17   4  13   0  1422  1836  43.65    8
West Adelaide     16   4  12   0  1385  1799  43.50    8
Central District  16   4  12   0   951  1638  36.73    8

(Four rounds remaining)

Who's playing finals is almost certainly settled, with Glenelg's charge seemingly finished following a shock loss to West on the weekend. Mathematically the Bays can still make it, but that would require three successive wins against sides in the top four, while relying on the Eagles losing all four of their final matches, which includes two against the bottom three sides.

Norwood has stormed the top the of table - on percentage - for the first time this season with a thumping 106-point victory over a normally powerful North Adelaide squad on the weekend, while Port's bright start to the season - winning 10 of their first 12 games - has dwindled off of late, with only two victories in their past five matches, including an unacceptable loss to a usually pitiful South unit.

The round 22 clash between the Legs and the Magpies shapes up as the game of the season, with the winner likely to snare the minor premiership. However, North is equal on points with first place and with a game in hand, while Sturt is hot on the top three's heels, sitting a win off top spot with a game in hand and with the competition's highest percentage.

An entertaining conclusion to the final four rounds before finals is evident, with Eagles v Sturt (Round 20), North v Eagles (Round 21), Sturt v Port (Round 21) and Norwood v Port (Round 22) the crucial matches heading into finals.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby spell_check » Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:49 pm

Often the lower grades get missed in coverage, so this is great! :)
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby therisingblues » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:22 am

Agreed Spelly. It is nice to have a bit of attention on the lower grades. It gives a good idea of how clubs as a whole are performing.
From Sturt's point of view there are a couple of interesting things. One being that if our reserves can slide into the five then we'd have all 4 grades playing in the finals. This appears to be impossible for any other side except North Adelaide, which would most likely be the team we displace if we squeezed into the five in the reserves. The other thing is I have never seen a side sitting fourth with the highest percentage in the comp' as Sturt is in the U17's with over 60%.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby Brad » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:01 am

Isn't the under 17's & 19's a top 4?
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby Thiele » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:03 am

They went to a top 3 a couple of years ago for the Juniors that is the reason why the 17s finish a week earlier and the 19s finish the same weekend as the league
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby scott » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:11 pm

Brad wrote:Isn't the under 17's & 19's a top 4?

Used to be until a couple of years ago. It's top five now and the 17s finish a week earlier (there was an entire round played on Anzac Day) so the grand final can be played on the league preliminary final week.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby MightyEagles » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:19 pm

Thiele wrote:They went to a top 3 a couple of years ago for the Juniors that is the reason why the 17s finish a week earlier and the 19s finish the same weekend as the league


From what I know that it's never been a top 3. Top 4 yes, but it's been a final 5 for the last few years.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby BPBRB » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:46 pm

scott wrote: Norwood has stormed the top the of table - on percentage - for the first time this season with a thumping 106-point victory over a normally powerful North Adelaide squad on the weekend


College football is killing North's 17's, 19's and Ressies this year plus a few long term injuries we haven't had in the past 4 years.

North's U17's made 16 changes last weekend mostly to do with college commitments from the team that played the previous game. It's pretty hard to get any sort of consistency across the "overall game plan" with that many changes!
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby Aerie » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:15 pm

BPBRB wrote:
scott wrote: Norwood has stormed the top the of table - on percentage - for the first time this season with a thumping 106-point victory over a normally powerful North Adelaide squad on the weekend


College football is killing North's 17's, 19's and Ressies this year plus a few long term injuries we haven't had in the past 4 years.

North's U17's made 16 changes last weekend mostly to do with college commitments from the team that played the previous game. It's pretty hard to get any sort of consistency across the "overall game plan" with that many changes!


When you also take into account State Under 18's - which for some reason took players away for 5 weeks this season - as well as injuries to the league team, the result of reserves, u/19's and u/17's comes a lot down to luck of availability.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby MightyEagles » Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:03 pm

Aerie wrote:
BPBRB wrote:
scott wrote: Norwood has stormed the top the of table - on percentage - for the first time this season with a thumping 106-point victory over a normally powerful North Adelaide squad on the weekend


College football is killing North's 17's, 19's and Ressies this year plus a few long term injuries we haven't had in the past 4 years.

North's U17's made 16 changes last weekend mostly to do with college commitments from the team that played the previous game. It's pretty hard to get any sort of consistency across the "overall game plan" with that many changes!


When you also take into account State Under 18's - which for some reason took players away for 5 weeks this season - as well as injuries to the league team, the result of reserves, u/19's and u/17's comes a lot down to luck of availability.


Exactly, last year, the Eagles u19's came 3rd, and this year aren't the same, because of the injuries in the league and reserves as well as the U18 state side and the college system.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby spell_check » Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:06 pm

Brad wrote:Isn't the under 17's & 19's a top 4?


It went to a final five in 2005, after being a final 4 from 1991.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby Sam_goUUUdogs » Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:46 pm

I dont know whats happened with the centrals ressies, they win the game that was 1 vs 2 by 11 goals, then drop the next 4 (or 5?) including one to bottom placed West.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby am Bays » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:49 pm

spell_check wrote:
Brad wrote:Isn't the under 17's & 19's a top 4?


It went to a final five in 2005, after being a final 4 from 1991.


It was a final four before 1991 IIRC....
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby spell_check » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:02 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
spell_check wrote:
Brad wrote:Isn't the under 17's & 19's a top 4?


It went to a final five in 2005, after being a final 4 from 1991.


It was a final four before 1991 IIRC....


It was definitely a final five pre 1991:

Under 19s 1990
EF - Norwood 18.15 Torrens 10.10
QF - South 17.11 Glenelg 15.7

Under 17s 1990
EF - Sturt 15.13 Port 10.7
QF - South 21.16 North 11.5
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby scott » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:23 pm

That'll teach you to mess with spelly. 8)
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:10 pm

Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:I dont know whats happened with the centrals ressies, they win the game that was 1 vs 2 by 11 goals, then drop the next 4 (or 5?) including one to bottom placed West.


Sam, I think this came from the very hard training that the Seniors have been doing over this time. It is a credit to the League that they have still been able to win during this period. The Ressies will be fine come September! Both they and the League side will be ten goals better in September than they currently are.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby MightyEagles » Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:11 pm

With Glenelg losing in the 17s, means that the Eagles 17s will play in the finals.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby scott » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:06 pm

Reserves - After Round 19

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SANFL Reserves   Pld   W   L   D   For  Agst    %    Pts
Glenelg           17  12   5   0  1732  1316  56.82   24
Norwood           16  11   5   0  1541  1287  54.49   22
South Adelaide    17  11   6   0  1411  1566  47.40   22
North Adelaide    16   9   7   0  1427  1274  52.83   18
Central District  17   9   8   0  1364  1223  52.73   18
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Sturt             16   7   9   0  1372  1390  49.67   14
Port Magpies      17   7  10   0  1497  1540  49.29   14
Eagles            16   5  11   0  1225  1528  44.50   10
West Adelaide     16   3  13   0  1209  1614  42.83    6


Joel Campbell kicked three goals as a solid first quarter helped North Adelaide keep their top-two aspirations alive with a seven-point victory - 10.12 (72) to 9.11 (65) - against Central District on the weekend.

Woodville-West Torrens snared their third win on the trot and severely dented Sturt's top five hopes with a 10-point upset result - 13.7 (85) to 11.9 (75) - at Adelaide Oval. The Double Blues must beat the Magpies next week if they're to have any hope of finishing in the top five.

Meanwhile, Lachlan McGregor fired home six goals to help Glenelg, who lead by less than three kicks at the main break, to a 54-point victory against the Port Magpies 22.15 (147) to 14.9 (93), further strengthening their minor premiership chances.

While down at Noarlunga, South Adelaide maintained their lack-of-winning-by-in-excess-of-four-goals success rate with a slender four-point victory - 10.16 (76) to 10.12 (76) - against West Adelaide, improving the Panthers' season to 11-6 and sitting a win off first place, despite having the third worst percentage (47.40) in the competition.



Under 19s - After Round 19

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SANFL Under 19   Pld   W   L   D   For  Agst    %    Pts
Port Magpies      17  17   0   0  2193   989  68.92   34
Central District  17  12   5   0  1350  1082  55.51   24
Sturt             16  11   5   0  1466  1279  53.41   22
Glenelg           17  10   7   0  1889  1471  56.22   20
North Adelaide    16   8   8   0  1282  1550  45.27   16
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West Adelaide     16   7   9   0  1392  1398  49.89   14
Eagles            16   5  11   0  1164  1427  44.92   10
Norwood           16   2  14   0  1035  1770  36.90    4
South Adelaide    17   2  15   0   935  1740  34.95    4


Shane Catterall booted nine goals - the third-best individual effort by an Under 19s player this season - as the Port Magpies continued their unbeaten reign this year, but in the process, conceded triple figures for the first time in 2007 in the 28-point victory - 21.11 (137) to 16.13 (109) - against Glenelg at Alberton.

At Richmond Oval, West Adelaide made light work in brushing off South Adelaide by 46 points, with forward Scott Ludas improving his goal tally to 35 for the season - third in the competition - with a five-goal effort in the 15.15 (105) to 5.9 (39) result; a scoreline only made fractionally more respectable for the Panthers by booting the final three majors of the game.

Central District jumped into outright second on the table courtesy of a nine-goal-to-four opening half against North Adelaide to set up a 22-point victory - 16.9 (105) to 12.11 (83) - in a crucial match at Elizabeth, seeing the Roosters' season hanging in the balance with four matches remaining.

And to conclude the matches for the round, Woodville-West Torrens overcame inaccuracy and a four-point deficit at three quarter time to account for a sharp-shooting Sturt - 12.14 (86) to 12.5 (77) - at Woodville, with the Double Blues blowing a golden opportunity to gain the upper-hand for a top-two finish this season.



Under 17s - After Round 20

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SANFL Under 17   Pld   W   L   D   For  Agst    %    Pts
Port Magpies      18  13   5   0  2031  1353  60.02   26
Sturt             17  12   5   0  1964  1300  60.17   24
Norwood           17  12   5   0  1653  1124  59.52   24
North Adelaide    17  12   5   0  1715  1418  54.74   24
Eagles            17   9   8   0  1587  1520  51.08   18
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Glenelg           18   6  12   0  1414  2140  39.79   12
South Adelaide    18   5  13   0  1520  1923  44.15   10
Central District  17   5  12   0  1026  1707  37.54   10
West Adelaide     17   4  13   0  1472  1897  43.69    8


The five teams featuring in Under 17s finals this year have been set after the remaining bottom-four battler Glenelg fell to the hands of the now top-placed Port Magpies by an incredible 157 points. Scintillating first- and final-quarter bursts by the Magpies - scoring 18.16 in those terms - were the backbones in the resounding 27.27 (189) to 4.8 (32) win, which could have been far greater had it not been for poor kicking. Port forward Luke Harder backed up his six-goal effort against South last round with seven this week.

It was closer at Elizabeth, significantly closer in fact, as Central District caused a major boil-over against the hot-and-cold North Adelaide with a six-point win. The Dogs' superior accuracy in front of goal set up the 11.9 (75) to 9.15 (69) victory to lift themselves off the bottom of the table, while the Roosters have seemingly ended their minor premiership hopes.

While their league team continues to struggle, South Adelaide Under 17s fused together their second successive victory in an otherwise bleak season, accounting for the now bottom-placed West Adelaide by 11 points at Richmond. After trailing by 13 points at the first change, the Panthers kicked 12 goals to seven in the remaining three terms to secure a 15.8 (98) to 12.15 (87) win.

After leading by almost three goals at quarter time, Woodville-West Torrens blew their hot start to be overrun by Sturt by 13 points at Woodville. The Double Blues kicked nine majors to four after the first change to ultimately claim an 11.8 (74) to 9.7 (61) victory, highlighted by strong forward Paul Cahill's four-goal return.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby rod_rooster » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:02 pm

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Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:I dont know whats happened with the centrals ressies, they win the game that was 1 vs 2 by 11 goals, then drop the next 4 (or 5?) including one to bottom placed West.


Sam, I think this came from the very hard training that the Seniors have been doing over this time. It is a credit to the League that they have still been able to win during this period. The Ressies will be fine come September! Both they and the League side will be ten goals better in September than they currently are.
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With this training that has been done by Central recently it is a wonder any of the players are still alive. You'd think they'd been asked to square off with each other with pistols ant 20 paces the way you Dogs supporters have been carrying on. FFS maybe you just aren't as good as you think :shock: Heaven forbid :roll:

And before you get too carried away, yes i still think you will win the flag but stop carrying on like a bunch of dicks. Other clubs train hard too.
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Re: Reserves and Under 19s/17s run home

Postby BPBRB » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:18 pm

C'mon Rod we all now realise that Centrals two losses have been because they have been way over trained beyond the human endurances of the playing personnel at any other league club and because they have wrapped up the minor premiership they don't give a stuff about any games until the finals so they quite clearly are not trying plus the umpires have been crucifying them all season.

The rest of us may as well just give up and hand them the cup but I think I know how to solve the bye issue? Don't let Centrals play until the finals, that way they won't have to flog themselves to death for half a season "over training" and play "meaningless" games for the other half a season. The rest of the comp can play for possies 2-5 as a lead up before the SANFL brings on the greatest football show of all time - Centrals, that is if it is not to demeaning or to much of an inconvenience to be playing against the other 8 clubs.
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