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Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:47 pmby topsywaldron
JK wrote:but the vast part of it was due to a God awful style of football. Norwood's plan became more dour around 2012, but last year reached an appallingly low level that I pray never gets repeated
But still better than under Trevor Hill?
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:52 pmby JK
topsywaldron wrote:JK wrote:but the vast part of it was due to a God awful style of football. Norwood's plan became more dour around 2012, but last year reached an appallingly low level that I pray never gets repeated
But still better than under Trevor Hill?
Thats like comparing a tooth being pulled to a fingernail ripped out. Both hurt in their own way.
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:20 pmby VALE PARK
Ken Farmer from North Adelaide would have kicked 17 goals by 3/4 time in some games.
I reckon the crowd loved it.
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:23 pmby Hazydog
cracka wrote:Hazydog wrote:I'm not one to generally support rule changes either - although I welcome capping interchanges with open arms. Willing to have a look at how the out of bonds rule goes.
I'm more staggered at the directive to U-18 coaches. "It comes as the league issues a directive to under-18 coaches to play with new parameters this season including keeping five forwards in the front half of the ground at stoppages, two in the forward 50m, banning tagging or run-with roles as well as the rolling zone and the press."
Good luck adjudicating on some of those facets!! Lunatics running the asylum with those changes.
That was trialled at last years U18 carnival & from reports was very successful. At stoppages players would spread to traditional positions rather than gather around the ball causing the rolling maul we see nowadays
I'm sure it was very successful from an AFL Recruiters perspective - much easier to judge players abilities/strengths/weaknesses playing one on one. Not sure I'm happy if I'm a SANFL League coach who has decreed his U-18's play the same game plan as the League and Reserves, so that they can integrate more easily as they progress up the grades. But again - it's all about what's better for the AFL isn't it?
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:25 pmby whufc
What I loved most about the nineties and early bough ties was that ever club had their own style the tried to implement
The 02 Sturt vs Centrals gf was a classic of that
These days everyone just plays follow the leader and try and copy the same style the top side is playing
Eventually some one will work it out and then everyone will move on to following that style of footy
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:27 pmby Booney
VALE PARK wrote:Ken Farmer from North Adelaide would have kicked 17 goals by 3/4 time in some games.
I reckon the crowd loved it.
They also loved the cream on the top of the milk delivered to the classroom every morning.
So what?
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:29 pmby JK
VALE PARK wrote:Ken Farmer from North Adelaide would have kicked 17 goals by 3/4 time in some games.
Only on his off days
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:37 pmby Magellan
JK wrote:VALE PARK wrote:Ken Farmer from North Adelaide would have kicked 17 goals by 3/4 time in some games.
Only on his off days
And after he started on the bench!
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:41 pmby saintal
South Adelaide games last year were in the main pretty average/boring to watch, as were a lot of other games I watched on C7. The combined score in their matches was just 131 points and only once did South or their opponent kick over 100 points (Power Reserves in Rnd 2). Hardly the sort of footy that will have the casual fans flocking to matches.
I'm not sure if this new rule will have any impact on the style of footy being played, but it might be worth a trial.
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:46 pmby Booney
In all reality if you have no interest in the SANFL right now the fact teams might kick 3 or 4 more goals per game each is not going to get you through the gate.
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:31 pmby am Bays
Booney wrote:So fatigue creates less stoppages? I'd agree with that, numbers seem to back that up. So less rotations, less breaks in play, players become more fatigued.
Can't wait to watch the last half of matches where players are instructed to play keepies-off because they're rooted* and can't run to space. That'll bring people through the gates. If you're 4 goals down with 20 minutes to go in the last quarter, might be hard to mount a comeback if your players are flat footed.
@am bays, what sort of injuries are aligned with fatigue? Hammys? Groins?
Generally concussion.
if you get fatigued and can't catch someone, you belt them and that slows the down so you can get the pill.
Certainly slowed Matty Simpson down in the 1991 GF....
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:58 pmby bennymacca
cracka wrote:Hazydog wrote:I'm not one to generally support rule changes either - although I welcome capping interchanges with open arms. Willing to have a look at how the out of bonds rule goes.
I'm more staggered at the directive to U-18 coaches. "It comes as the league issues a directive to under-18 coaches to play with new parameters this season including keeping five forwards in the front half of the ground at stoppages, two in the forward 50m, banning tagging or run-with roles as well as the rolling zone and the press."
Good luck adjudicating on some of those facets!! Lunatics running the asylum with those changes.
That was trialled at last years U18 carnival & from reports was very successful. At stoppages players would spread to traditional positions rather than gather around the ball causing the rolling maul we see nowadays
Would much rather them change an out of bounds rule than implement something like this
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:20 pmby saintal
Booney wrote:In all reality if you have no interest in the SANFL right now the fact teams might kick 3 or 4 more goals per game each is not going to get you through the gate.
Correct.
But if you have
some interest and go to a few games a year a better spectacle may persuade you to become a more regular patron. Maybe. Whatever the case the game in its current state can be chore to watch.
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:23 pmby cracka
bennymacca wrote:cracka wrote:Hazydog wrote:I'm not one to generally support rule changes either - although I welcome capping interchanges with open arms. Willing to have a look at how the out of bonds rule goes.
I'm more staggered at the directive to U-18 coaches. "It comes as the league issues a directive to under-18 coaches to play with new parameters this season including keeping five forwards in the front half of the ground at stoppages, two in the forward 50m, banning tagging or run-with roles as well as the rolling zone and the press."
Good luck adjudicating on some of those facets!! Lunatics running the asylum with those changes.
That was trialled at last years U18 carnival & from reports was very successful. At stoppages players would spread to traditional positions rather than gather around the ball causing the rolling maul we see nowadays
Would much rather them change an out of bounds rule than implement something like this
The game is getting more like soccer nowadays with the ball mainly going back & forth between each teams half forward lines. I'd prefer more of the traditional style one on one's, big power forwards, dirty full backmen trying to stop them, followers resting in the pockets, F all interchanges & high scoring games. Unfortunately they could bring in 10 new rules which could make it happen, then the coaches & players would try & find ways to negate that style.
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:26 pmby bennymacca
can you imagine someone going for a lead and just about to take a mark and then being called for being out of the zone?
You want it being less like soccer, well that would basically be the off-side rule
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:30 pmby cracka
bennymacca wrote:can you imagine someone going for a lead and just about to take a mark and then being called for being out of the zone?You want it being less like soccer, well that would basically be the off-side rule
They only have to be in the zone at stoppages, not in general play.
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:36 pmby bennymacca
Ah ok.
So its more like when i used to umpire U10s, and if they started crowding around the ball you would stop the game and tell them to spread out
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:37 pmby cracka
bennymacca wrote:Ah ok.
So its more like when i used to umpire U10s, and if they started crowding around the ball you would stop the game and tell them to spread out
Yeah.
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:54 pmby VALE PARK
I do get the feeling now the SANFL are about to renig on the out of bounds rule for 2016.
They do appear to struggle with firm decision making on their patch.
I guess we will continue to get minimal goals in the SANFL.
Boring,boring,low scoring games.
An opportunity wasted.
Crowds will continue their decline.
Rome burns!
Re: Surely tha SANFL is not wavering on new rule change
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:03 pmby FlyingHigh
Nothing wrong with a 8 goal to 9 slugfest on a mudpatch in the middle of winter, which can be uniquely entertaining. Plenty wrong with it on the dry surfaces in autumn and spring.
One rule change I think they could trial is not to allow anyone else in the centre square bounce until the ball has been cleared of the square. Might make for less secondary-bounces and more attacking mindset and clearances like we used to see. Not 100% convinced it'll work, but worth a try.