The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby JK » Wed May 20, 2015 9:09 am

SANFLnut wrote:If the Crows promised 4000 per game and are only getting 2000 per game then the SANFL should send them an invoice for the shortfall.
2000 fans x 18 games x $10 average spend (not even going to bother with admission) = $360 k


That's what I said at the time we sold our soul, they should have been forced to underwrite an attendance figure if they were that confident/arrogant/full of shit about their drawing power.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby bennymacca » Wed May 20, 2015 9:29 am

Or the clubs that voted yes could have done their due diligence too...
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby JK » Wed May 20, 2015 9:33 am

bennymacca wrote:Or the clubs that voted yes could have done their due diligence too...


It's not like that hasn't been acknowledged a million times
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby bennymacca » Wed May 20, 2015 9:36 am

Hey, it is the never ending thread after all :)
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby JK » Wed May 20, 2015 9:36 am

bennymacca wrote:Hey, it is the never ending thread after all :)


lol fair point
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby stan » Wed May 20, 2015 10:38 am

JK wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Hey, it is the never ending thread after all :)


lol fair point

If we dont start bringing up old shit again we risk running out of material.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby CUTTERMAN » Wed May 20, 2015 10:48 am

SANFLnut wrote:If the Crows promised 4000 per game and are only getting 2000 per game then the SANFL should send them an invoice for the shortfall.
2000 fans x 18 games x $10 average spend (not even going to bother with admission) = $360 k

I brought this up with Burtenshaw numerous times trying to get a straight answer due to Sturt having the highest match day overheads in the comp. Eventually he said that they wouldn't be overwriting a break even crowd for the host club.
They weren't putting their money where their mouth was. Now it's looking the same way with Power reserves and their attendances.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby johntheclaret » Wed May 20, 2015 10:50 am

stan wrote:
JK wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Hey, it is the never ending thread after all :)


lol fair point

If we dont start bringing up old shit again we risk running out of material.

Agreed
No AFL in the SANFL .
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby JK » Wed May 20, 2015 11:39 am

CUTTERMAN wrote:
SANFLnut wrote:If the Crows promised 4000 per game and are only getting 2000 per game then the SANFL should send them an invoice for the shortfall.
2000 fans x 18 games x $10 average spend (not even going to bother with admission) = $360 k

I brought this up with Burtenshaw numerous times trying to get a straight answer due to Sturt having the highest match day overheads in the comp. Eventually he said that they wouldn't be overwriting a break even crowd for the host club.
They weren't putting their money where their mouth was. Now it's looking the same way with Power reserves and their attendances.


IF the Crows genuinely believed they were going to bring through big crowds why didn't they ever try to establish a home base and have their own matchday revenue?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby stan » Wed May 20, 2015 11:56 am

johntheclaret wrote:
stan wrote:
JK wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Hey, it is the never ending thread after all :)


lol fair point

If we dont start bringing up old shit again we risk running out of material.

Agreed
No AFL in the SANFL .

Lol back to basics.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Wedgie » Wed May 20, 2015 12:20 pm

bennymacca wrote:Or the clubs that voted yes could have done their due diligence too...

Clubs didn't get a vote, league delegates did.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby bennymacca » Wed May 20, 2015 12:22 pm

Forgive my ignorance, what's the difference?
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The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 20, 2015 12:24 pm

bennymacca wrote:Forgive my ignorance, what's the difference?

The delegates went against members wishes. In Norwood's case about 60% didnt want them in and either did several board members.
I also believe some delegates went against their board's wishes
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby bennymacca » Wed May 20, 2015 12:25 pm

But the delegate is appointed by the club to represent the club, correct?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jim05 » Wed May 20, 2015 12:27 pm

bennymacca wrote:But the delegate is appointed by the club to represent the club, correct?

Not when they are looking after their own interests rather than the club
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby bennymacca » Wed May 20, 2015 12:31 pm

Jim05 wrote:
bennymacca wrote:But the delegate is appointed by the club to represent the club, correct?

Not when they are looking after their own interests rather than the club


That's a separate issue though.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Pseudo » Wed May 20, 2015 12:39 pm

bennymacca wrote:But the delegate is appointed by the club to represent the club, correct?

Appointed by the club, but to be impartial. At Glenelg's information night Nick Chigwidden explained that the vote was his alone to make and that he had to do it not in the interests of Glenelg but in the interests of the SANFL.

I am not excusing how he or five other delegates voted. A lot of people voiced concerns to them before the vote was made. In many cases these concerns were ignored, or given token recognition via "information nights" which had no bearing on the delegates' decision. Fair to say that most of these concerns have since been demonstrated to be well-founded.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby CUTTERMAN » Wed May 20, 2015 1:41 pm

JK wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:
SANFLnut wrote:If the Crows promised 4000 per game and are only getting 2000 per game then the SANFL should send them an invoice for the shortfall.
2000 fans x 18 games x $10 average spend (not even going to bother with admission) = $360 k

I brought this up with Burtenshaw numerous times trying to get a straight answer due to Sturt having the highest match day overheads in the comp. Eventually he said that they wouldn't be overwriting a break even crowd for the host club.
They weren't putting their money where their mouth was. Now it's looking the same way with Power reserves and their attendances.


IF the Crows genuinely believed they were going to bring through big crowds why didn't they ever try to establish a home base and have their own matchday revenue?

As part of giving back to the clubs and helping them increase their game day revenues
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed May 20, 2015 2:12 pm

I knew it. Finally, it's happened. Someone blamed Barack.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby johntheclaret » Wed May 20, 2015 2:47 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:I knew it. Finally, it's happened. Someone blamed Barack.

The bloody yanks have to stick their beaks into everyone's business. :lol:
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