The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

[Hazydog]

I think most of us agree that once Port entered the AFL, their presence in the SANFL should have ceased (and from memory that was Port's preferred option.)

We'll keep local team, says Port , Sunday Mail (SA), 10-04-1994,
Port Adelaide has told the SANFL it would still like to field teams in the SANFL competition if its up-front bid to join the AFL is successful. "This is our preferable option but obviously the decision would rest with both the SANFL and AFL..."

Ok - That was their stance in 1994, but did that change in the lead up to 97?

While you are accessing those archives Pseudo...

[Booney]

I think most of us agree that once Port entered the AFL, their presence in the SANFL should have ceased (and from memory that was Port's preferred option.)

We'll keep local team, says Port , Sunday Mail (SA), 10-04-1994,
Port Adelaide has told the SANFL it would still like to field teams in the SANFL competition if its up-front bid to join the AFL is successful. "This is our preferable option but obviously the decision would rest with both the SANFL and AFL..."

Ok - That was their stance in 1994, but did that change in the lead up to 97?

While you are accessing those archives Pseudo...

The SANFL made it clear there would be a PAFC team in the SANFL...then they shipped us off to Ethelton and the split was completed, by others.

[Dutchy]

You guys are rolling in it after Shanghai apparently

Again, a loaded question you know the answer to.

No, Kochie and KT has specifically said China is all about boosting their football spend, Im sure you are aware of this

Correct, and I'm sure you're aware that the figures reported this year were break even on the $4m venture and with establishment costs covered in that $4m the following season will see over heads of under $2.5m. You're good with maths.

Good, no more handouts required, debt gone and this can be funded.

Koch is in his 5th year...

[Booney]

Good, no more handouts required, debt gone and this can be funded.

Koch is in his 5th year...

You're a dead set joker.

Love how much you hate us, I do. I love it. Black and yellow scarring still itchy?

[Dutchy]

I don't follow Richmond.

I detest how much of a drain they have been on footy in this state both financially and emotionally.

[MW]

I don't follow Richmond.

I detest how much of a drain they have been on footy in the SANFL both financially and emotionally post 1997.

EFA

[am Bays]

Good, no more handouts required, debt gone and this can be funded.

Koch is in his 5th year...

You're a dead set joker.

Love how much you hate us, I do. I love it. Black and yellow scarring still itchy?

That's Richmond

*In best Bill Lawry voice* That's Glenelg Gold my friend and don't you f***** forget it, black and yellow indeed....."

I "Show no Mercy" on the Black and yellow issue!!!

[Wedgie]

Doesn't your song say yellow?

[am Bays]

Doesn't your song say yellow?

No, it says we're gay

NTTAWWT

[Booney]

Doesn't your song say yellow?

http://glenelgfc.com.au/fanzone#clubsong

Oh we're from Tiger land
A fighting fury
We're from Tiger land
In any weather you'll see us with a grin
Risking head and shin
If we're behind then never mind
We'll fight and fight and win
For we're from Tiger land.
We never weaken till the final siren's gone
Like the Tiger of old
We're strong and we're bold
For we're from Tiger (yellow and black)
We're from Tiger land.

[UK Fan]

You guys are rolling in it after Shanghai apparently

Again, a loaded question you know the answer to.

No, Kochie and KT has specifically said China is all about boosting their football spend, Im sure you are aware of this

Correct, and I'm sure you're aware that the figures reported this year were break even on the $4m venture and with establishment costs covered in that $4m the following season will see over heads of under $2.5m. You're good with maths.

I thought you claimed it's made the club money already ????

[Booney]

Good, no more handouts required, debt gone and this can be funded.

Koch is in his 5th year...

You're a dead set joker.

Love how much you hate us, I do. I love it. Black and yellow scarring still itchy?

That's Richmond

*In best Bill Lawry voice* That's Glenelg Gold my friend and don't you f***** forget it, black and yellow indeed....."

I "Show no Mercy" on the Black and yellow issue!!!

If, and when, you win...I bet "Yellow and black" is most emphasised.

[StrayDog]

I think most of us agree that once Port entered the AFL, their presence in the SANFL should have ceased (and from memory that was Port's preferred option.)

We'll keep local team, says Port , Sunday Mail (SA), 10-04-1994,
Port Adelaide has told the SANFL it would still like to field teams in the SANFL competition if its up-front bid to join the AFL is successful. "This is our preferable option but obviously the decision would rest with both the SANFL and AFL..."

Ok - That was their stance in 1994, but did that change in the lead up to 97?

While you are accessing those archives Pseudo...

The SANFL made it clear there would be a PAFC team in the SANFL...then they shipped us off to Ethelton and the split was completed, by others.

A bit more from the archives:-

http://www.safooty.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 3#p1142483

[CUTTERMAN]

Yet Port supporters continually trump out the "we've already made $6m from China" when defending the exercise, funny how none of them can give a breakdown of where and who the money is from, what it's to be spent on, when, over what time and where it's to be spent. $hit, the $6m could be going back 2-3 years and forward 2-3 years and only to be spent in China.
As always it's more about spin than substance when it comes to Port Power and Chairman Koch

"We've made $6m" - Who, where, when?

Do we/they need to tell you, or is it none of your business?

MJK International Holdings Group, Shanghai CRED and Ausgold Mining Group have been the main benefactors.

He's all about spin, you're all about being bitter and angry. Who wins?

Port supporter complains about other supporters telling him what he thinks, then goes on to tell someone what they think. Yep.
Of course it's none of my business but if Port supporters are going to blindly parrot $6m then it's fair to ask these questions, if not just out of interest. If they can't answer then do they know or are they just blindly repeating what the media dept are spewing out?
What's wrong with asking for some simple facts? Without facts it's easy for the truth to be changed down the track, just like the promise of WMD's in Iraq or the One Club promise that Port Magpies would never be a Power reserves.
But please, let's not let facts get in the way of you telling someone else what they're thinking.

[Booney]

Yet Port supporters continually trump out the "we've already made $6m from China" when defending the exercise, funny how none of them can give a breakdown of where and who the money is from, what it's to be spent on, when, over what time and where it's to be spent. $hit, the $6m could be going back 2-3 years and forward 2-3 years and only to be spent in China.
As always it's more about spin than substance when it comes to Port Power and Chairman Koch

"We've made $6m" - Who, where, when?

Do we/they need to tell you, or is it none of your business?

MJK International Holdings Group, Shanghai CRED and Ausgold Mining Group have been the main benefactors.

He's all about spin, you're all about being bitter and angry. Who wins?

Port supporter complains about other supporters telling him what he thinks, then goes on to tell someone what they think. Yep.
Of course it's none of my business but if Port supporters are going to blindly parrot $6m then it's fair to ask these questions, if not just out of interest. If they can't answer then do they know or are they just blindly repeating what the media dept are spewing out?
What's wrong with asking for some simple facts? Without facts it's easy for the truth to be changed down the track, just like the promise of WMD's in Iraq or the One Club promise that Port Magpies would never be a Power reserves.
But please, let's not let facts get in the way of you telling someone else what they're thinking.

"$6m" - Who, where, when?

[saintal]

I gather this happens routinely in the VFL and doesn’t raise too many eyebrows, but an example of a player sitting out the final term to rest up for a likely promotion the following week (5 day break for him if he plays). For the record, Collingwood kicked the final 3 goals to win by 14 points.

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2017-06-0 ... for-recall

[therisingblues]

I gather this happens routinely in the VFL and doesn’t raise too many eyebrows, but an example of a player sitting out the final term to rest up for a likely promotion the following week (5 day break for him if he plays). For the record, Collingwood kicked the final 3 goals to win by 14 points.

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2017-06-0 ... for-recall

Maybe because there are so many reserve teams in that league that the culture is a bit different. It might be more like a reserves comp that has a couple of genuine teams in it, rather than the other way around.

That said, this type of thing really shits me.
It is exactly the sort of thing most of us warned of when the reserves were proposed. Of course this sort of thing is always going to happen in a reserves team, and if the comp the reserves are playing in is a genuine comp, then it becomes a COMPROMISED genuine comp.
There are still nitwits out there that do not understand the impact this sort of shit has. Basically they are all so happy and snuggly with their AFL, they cannot (or do not WANT to) see the damage caused to those around them, as their blinkered world becomes just that little bit more happy and snuggly.
Having a happy, snuggly place for all their reserves players to play together... ahhhhhh, like a nice toasty fire on their pampered, slippered feet, while football a grade below basically loses meaning.

[VALE PARK]

A huge turn out of crows followers at the Parade last night maybe reaching 200.
You could hear a pin drop when they scored a goal!

[Wolf Pack]

The Power fans will be out in force today baying for blood after their teams insipid showing last night!!!
Could be a terrible day for the 50 bloods fans that show up

[o five]

Are we seeing the benefits of the 2 AFL teams in the SANFL now after last nights Power and Dons game?
Maybe we could add another reserves reserves team for Port in the comp.