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Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:28 pm
by wedgetail
With PAM setting another record on Sunday by losing their first 4 games (coincidentally to the Eagles to whom they set their record of 7 losses in a row a few years ago), I was wondering if it was the first time since 1907 ( when most later day records are taken from) that Port have never had a PAM premiership player playing in their side. Their side looked inexperienced on Sunday and cosidering their record of frequently making GF's ( except this decade), I reckon just about every PAM side since 1907 would have a premiership player in it. This core of premiership players up to 1999 has provided the experience, nouse and will to win previously. It isn't there now. It could well be long serving players AhChee and Clayton may finish their careers without a PAM premiership!
Spelly, maybe you could rise to the challenge or some PAM supporters?

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:38 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
I can't be bothered checking it up, but I'd think none of their losing 1976 GF team had a PAM premiership player in it.

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:10 pm
by spell_check
None of the players that played for Port in 1976 had previously played in a premiership. Bruce Light started his career at Port the earliest of the 30 players who played in that year - 1967.

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:05 pm
by robranosgod
spell_check wrote:None of the players that played for Port in 1976 had previously played in a premiership. Bruce Light started his career at Port the earliest of the 30 players who played in that year - 1967.


Two players who played for much of that 1966 to 1976 era were Bob Clayton and Keith Spencer. Does anyone know who played more games for Port out of those two stalwarts. I would imagine that the one who played the most games out of those two players would actually be the Port player who has played the most without winning a league premiership.

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:57 pm
by spell_check
Spencer played 161 games; Clayton 151.

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:33 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
spell_check wrote:Spencer played 161 games; Clayton 151.


Spelly, this would be an interesting exercise to list players who played the most games without playing in a premiership for each club.

I know for Norwood it is Robert Oatey with 232 games from 1961 to 1973.

Woodville would have to be Ralph Swer with well over 300, and Central would possibly be Peter Vivian. Can anyone nominate players from their own clubs?

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:45 pm
by spell_check
Fred Bills played 313 matches without a flag.
Gavin Colville played 232.
Stuart Palmer with 338 for South.
Nick Chigwidden 291 for Glenelg.
John Richter 258 for Sturt.

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:46 pm
by am Bays
Nick Chigwidden 293 games

John Schneebichler would be well over 250 games wouldn't he - at two clubs?

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:49 pm
by spell_check
am Bays wrote:Nick Chigwidden 293 games

John Schneebichler would be well over 250 games wouldn't he - at two clubs?


That includes 2 State matches. ;)

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:50 pm
by spell_check
Dexter Kennedy - 236 games for West, then another 70 for Port.
Tim Cook - 203 games for North.

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:02 am
by bayman
Adelaide Hawk wrote:


Woodville would have to be Ralph Sewer with well over 300



i'm sure ralph sewer played finals for glenelg or are we just talking about the first club (woodville) he played for ?

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:40 am
by Adelaide Hawk
bayman wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:


Woodville would have to be Ralph Sewer with well over 300



i'm sure ralph sewer played finals for glenelg or are we just talking about the first club (woodville) he played for ?


We're talking about the club, and we are also talking premierships, not Grand Finals. For example, Robert Oatey has played the most games for Norwood without playing in a flag (232) but he went on to play in the 1974 Sturt premiership team.

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:43 pm
by robranosgod
spell_check wrote:Dexter Kennedy - 236 games for West, then another 70 for Port.
Tim Cook - 203 games for North.


Most of Tim Cook's games would have been at central. I doubt that he would have played 50 games at North.

Who would have played the most games at North without winning a flag. I would have thought John Robinson would have come close given that he played from 1965 until 1975 and yet missed both premierships.

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:28 pm
by spell_check
robranosgod wrote:
spell_check wrote:Dexter Kennedy - 236 games for West, then another 70 for Port.
Tim Cook - 203 games for North.


Most of Tim Cook's games would have been at central. I doubt that he would have played 50 games at North.

Who would have played the most games at North without winning a flag. I would have thought John Robinson would have come close given that he played from 1965 until 1975 and yet missed both premierships.


Yeah, I thought Cook played at Central, but didn't give it a second think for some reason. :shock: ;)

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:30 am
by the joker
what is ports most losses in a row, they lost the last 2 or 3 last year and are gunna lose 4 in a row this year

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:09 am
by JK
the joker wrote:what is ports most losses in a row, they lost the last 2 or 3 last year and are gunna lose 4 in a row this year


Pretty sure they won their last minor round game mate

Re: Has Port created history again????

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:59 am
by Big Phil
spell_check wrote:
robranosgod wrote:
spell_check wrote:Dexter Kennedy - 236 games for West, then another 70 for Port.
Tim Cook - 203 games for North.


Most of Tim Cook's games would have been at central. I doubt that he would have played 50 games at North.

Who would have played the most games at North without winning a flag. I would have thought John Robinson would have come close given that he played from 1965 until 1975 and yet missed both premierships.


Yeah, I thought Cook played at Central, but didn't give it a second think for some reason. :shock: ;)


Cookie played 117 games at the Doggies and I reckon about 3 or 4 games in the AFL with the Crows.