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Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:54 pm
by Old but Smart Dog
Hes got plan A, B, C & D..and most of all hes knows how to win finals! Make way Neil Craig for someone that knows what their doing! :wink:

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:57 pm
by bayman
i agree but i don't think roy would leave central & i can't see craig departing either, however as i said i agree roy laird is a far better coach than neil craig (actually there are a fair amount of coaches out there better than craig)

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:00 pm
by Dutchy
That one is not real hard to work out...sonn you will be saying Centrals have had a better decade than South :lol:

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:07 pm
by Old but Smart Dog
bayman wrote:i agree but i don't think roy would leave central & i can't see craig departing either, however as i said i agree roy laird is a far better coach than neil craig (actually there are a fair amount of coaches out there better than craig)


Well I wouldn't think Adelaide would be smart enough to make the ultimate offer he couldn't refuse, but apart from that Roy has one final mission to complete in 2009! (and we all know what that is :wink: )

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:09 pm
by Punk Rooster
Old but Smart Dog wrote:Hes got plan A, B, C & D..and most of all hes knows how to win finals! Make way Neil Craig for someone that knows what their doing! :wink:

Roy Laird has proved nothing until he takes another club to a flag.
If he took North to a flag in 2 years, I would agree he is the best coach ever, but it aint gonna happen.

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:10 pm
by Old but Smart Dog
Dutchy wrote:That one is not real hard to work out...sonn you will be saying Centrals have had a better decade than South :lol:


hmmn..I think South would claim otherwise...afterall they did win a few games this year and thats good enough for their high standards isn't it? :lol:

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:24 pm
by Old but Smart Dog
Punk Rooster wrote:
Old but Smart Dog wrote:Hes got plan A, B, C & D..and most of all hes knows how to win finals! Make way Neil Craig for someone that knows what their doing! :wink:

Roy Laird has proved nothing until he takes another club to a flag.
If he took North to a flag in 2 years, I would agree he is the best coach ever, but it aint gonna happen.


In your dreams...Roys a Doggie through and through..no chance of coaching another SANFL club..he loves U Dogs!

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:38 am
by Punk Rooster
Old but Smart Dog wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:
Old but Smart Dog wrote:Hes got plan A, B, C & D..and most of all hes knows how to win finals! Make way Neil Craig for someone that knows what their doing! :wink:

Roy Laird has proved nothing until he takes another club to a flag.
If he took North to a flag in 2 years, I would agree he is the best coach ever, but it aint gonna happen.


In your dreams...Roys a Doggie through and through..no chance of coaching another SANFL club..he loves U Dogs!

not my dream buddy... i stand by what I say- he's not proven until he coaches another club to a flag.

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:32 am
by HeartBeatsTrue
As much as I love the SANFL, the standard aint the same.
Compare apples with apples.

Until Roy (if ever) coaches an AFL side for at least a few years you cant compare.

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:18 am
by Dogwatcher
Agreed HBT.
Love Roy, love the SANFL but....

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:25 am
by Pseudo
Punk Rooster wrote:not my dream buddy... i stand by what I say- he's not proven until he coaches another club to a flag.

You once chewed me out for expressing similar sentiments about John Cahill...

(that ought to get this thread going) :lol:

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:31 am
by Psyber
Has Roy Laird coached successfully at any level other than SANFL, or with any team but Centrals where he had a good squad to start with??
If not, it is hard to make realistic comparisons...

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:26 am
by Hondo
HeartBeatsTrue wrote:As much as I love the SANFL, the standard aint the same.
Compare apples with apples.

Until Roy (if ever) coaches an AFL side for at least a few years you cant compare.


Spot on.

Until Roy is tested at that level it's complete guess-work and a matter of opinion. Apples with oranges.

If Roy is happy to stay in the SANFL only then even he wouldn't go speculating that he is better than any AFL coach. I'd really like to see Roy test himself at AFL level one day.

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:33 am
by best on hill
i think most coaches in the sanfl would be better coaches than neil craig.
why not "roy for the afl" if he is up for a challange.
rick mcgowan is about to challange himself roy should to get out of his comfort zone!

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:36 am
by JK
hondo71 wrote:
HeartBeatsTrue wrote:As much as I love the SANFL, the standard aint the same.
Compare apples with apples.

Until Roy (if ever) coaches an AFL side for at least a few years you cant compare.


Spot on.

Until Roy is tested at that level it's complete guess-work and a matter of opinion. Apples with oranges.

If Roy is happy to stay in the SANFL only then even he wouldn't go speculating that he is better than any AFL coach. I'd really like to see Roy test himself at AFL level one day.


Agreed, very similar to Gary McIntosh never playing the VFL or AFL ... Most people think he would have made it, but how can we assess that definitively?

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:47 pm
by Mic
Are people suggesting that it is harder to caoch an AFL side, or just different?

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:57 pm
by HeartBeatsTrue
Mic wrote:Are people suggesting that it is harder to caoch an AFL side, or just different?

Ask Neil Balme and Peter Rhode.

I'm sure if you even asked Clarkson that question you'll get the same answer.

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:08 pm
by HeartBeatsTrue
Just on that.. how many coaches who have been senior coach of an SANFL side has senior coached an AFL premiership?

Quickly I can think of Clarkson, Malcolm Blight and Mark Williams.

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:13 pm
by Goldberg
All u blokes are kidding urselves. Craig took a list (if u can remember back this far) that was predicted to finish 15th, & turned a bunch of no-names (excluding Roo, Goody, Edwards, & Macca) into genuine premiership contenders. Now that the elite from his squad are getting older, he copes all this flack, when the truth is, he gets more out of this group then any1 else ever could. You look at his list for the past 5 years, & is hasn't changed heaps. So my question is why all of a sudden did a team that wasn't rated at all was being talked about as a great list. I tell u why!!! Craigs training, mental preperation & his willingness to get feed back from his players.

You may not like this but it's the truth- Because of Neil, the rest of the AFL have had to step up there training professionalism, and demand more from every person on their list, because he was doing that at Adelaide. I dont even really support them, but i sure as hell respect them.

Their list in real terms is around the 13-14th best (in terms of talent)but he gets them to finals regularly & if he had a better run with injuries he would have won a flag by now!!!

Roy is a great coach, dont get me wrong, but could he & does he have the knowledge Neil has to get these boys to their absolute best???

Re: Roy Laird is a far better coach than Neil Craig

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:20 pm
by am Bays
Old coaching proverbs...

"The better my players, the better I coach..."

"Some coaches dream of wisdom and forsight, I dream of 280lb linebackers who can run 40 yards in around 4 s" American Football coach