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Can someone enlighten me

What is the limit on the salary cap?

Are coaches included in the salary cap?

How much are Seconds players paid per game?

How many players make up a senior list?

Is there a limit to how many players a club can have on its seniors list or use during a season?

Do U/19 and U/17 players get paid, if so is it part of the salary cap?

I can answer the first question - not enough.


Actually, it's $365,000, If I remember correctly.

I know the reserves players out at Centrals get $100 per game which I believe is in the higher payment bracket...

Last year they were only recieving $50 - $75 a game which is why so many players leave to play locally or in the country where they can fetch up to $500 per game cash in hand...

I don't think the underage players get paid but I could be wrong...

Big Phil wrote:I know the reserves players out at Centrals get $100 per game which I believe is in the higher payment bracket...

Last year they were only recieving $50 - $75 a game which is why so many players leave to play locally or in the country where they can fetch up to $500 per game cash in hand...

I don't think the underage players get paid but I could be wrong...

Is it a set price with all seconds players, or can a club choose what the weekly payment will be?

I thought that all clubs pay their seconds players $75 a match this year.

clubs discretion isn't it??

Does it matter what the salary cap is? Theres so many ways around it.

Indeed. Several clubs have used and continue to use the "paper-bag" payment method...

Big Phil wrote:Last year they were only recieving $50 - $75 a game which is why so many players leave to play locally or in the country where they can fetch up to $500 per game cash in hand...

Arguably this is one of the areas where cost savings from having one less under age team could go?

We seem obsessed with keeping 19 year olds in the system yet, under the current system, once they turn 19 we pay them peanuts (compared to the alternatives) so they have little incentive to stay unless they are guaranteed league.

As an outsider have I may have my facts wrong here .... just speaking off the cuff

TigerBoss wrote:Indeed. Several clubs have used and continue to use the "paper-bag" payment method...

In accounting terms that is whats called "petty cash".
How about players that get payed $60K a year for pouring beers a couple of hours a week. Thats another one.

Underage players don't get paid, usually if they are in the best players they get vouchers for a sports store or hotel or a towel.
If they are from the country they get petrol money.

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:Does it matter what the salary cap is? Theres so many ways around it.

There are many ways around it, and my club has had plenty of paper bags handed out over the years, however I was looking for some answers to an honest question and some have been answered . My main one was about are coaches included in the salary cap.

Thanks to all that answered

subpol wrote:

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:Does it matter what the salary cap is? Theres so many ways around it.

There are many ways around it, and my club has had plenty of paper bags handed out over the years, however I was looking for some answers to an honest question and some have been answered . My main one was about are coaches included in the salary cap.

Thanks to all that answered

I reakon that you can pay a coach whatever you like. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.

Spot on, coaches arent included.

We wouldn't have many players if the coaches payments were included in the salary cap .

TigerBoss wrote:Indeed. Several clubs have used and continue to use the "paper-bag" payment method...

Name them........with water tight supporting evidence.

Ian wrote:

TigerBoss wrote:Indeed. Several clubs have used and continue to use the "paper-bag" payment method...

Name them........with water tight supporting evidence.

It one of those things that cant be proved but we all know it goes on

Tassie Blues wrote:

Ian wrote:

TigerBoss wrote:Indeed. Several clubs have used and continue to use the "paper-bag" payment method...

Name them........with water tight supporting evidence.

It one of those things that cant be proved but we all know it goes on

Some times, most times its one of those things that doesnt happen but people think it does, people love conspiracy theories.
Simple fact is some club have been penalised for breaking the salary cap, we can only assume those that haven't are clubs that haven't broken the salary cap, any other conjecture without evidence is stupid.

Tassie Blues summed it up nicely...we all know it happens...

I'm not going to name and shame Ian...let's just say that it DOES happen, and leave it at that.

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:

TigerBoss wrote:Indeed. Several clubs have used and continue to use the "paper-bag" payment method...

In accounting terms that is whats called "petty cash".
How about players that get payed $60K a year for pouring beers a couple of hours a week. Thats another one.

another innovative method one club is currently using is to give your recruit 3 houses, he lives in one for free and collects rent on the other 2, thankyou very much.

To say that some Clubs who haven't been fined for a breach of the salary cap rules are therefore innocent without evidence is questionable. Some of the few Clubs who have been fined can possibly be put on the list of 'honest' Clubs.

The SANFL Salary Cap investigation procedures are a joke and seemingly designed not to rock the boat.

As for evidence, the circumstantial evidence is indisputable: A player is approached by Club 'A' with an offer. He tells Club 'A', "Sorry mate, you're not within cooee of the offer I've had from Club 'B' and Club 'C'.

All the Clubs know approximately what each recruit is being 'paid' by the new Club and some Clubs couldn't possibly fit all their players remotely under the salary cap.

They may have creative accounting principles in place to cheat the system, but to pretend they're not rorting the system is ridiculous.

The brown paper bags are everywhere.