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Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:15 pm
by spell_check
I've noticed a divided opinion here, which player should be in the full-forward position? Both have different attributes, Passador I think is the better leading forward, which Schwarze is the better pack marker. Or can they both operate out of the goal square, Passador leads, while Schwarze stays in the square.

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:20 pm
by Mickyj
IMHO.Pass will play at either HFF or in a FP halfway between FF and CHF.They were trying something like this in the seconds when Pass and Trent were both in the two's.
I will vote Ben for FF .Corey will be in a quandry on Saturday Ben or Mark ?

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:34 pm
by Aerie
I'd like to think both could work together from the goal square or at least inside 50. On this years form, Passador is the better option, even though Schwarze has kicked bags of 8 and 7 and hasn't had that many games at FF. It is up to these guys and the coaching staff to work out how to get the mix right. That includes leaving enough players in the team that can run through the midfield to lessen the load on Treeby, Powell etc.

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:37 pm
by bayman
i selected both in the square but really mean both in the forward line :wink:

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:05 pm
by Mickyj
bayman wrote:i selected both in the square but really mean both in the forward line :wink:


ok :wink:

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:07 pm
by best on hill
they could almost play as brown and bradshaw do for the lions, grab some videos of how the brisbane pair operate and thats how the key eagles forwards could work together

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:24 am
by MightyEagles
I said both in the square. If both fire on the same day, we'll beat just about any side by about 10+ goals.

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:03 pm
by Psyber
I have no opinion because unfortunately I have never seen either play, even on TV.
Ahh... The frustrations of being so far from the SANFL....

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:37 pm
by Blue Boy
Since im an expert on the Eagles players beating us almost every time we have ever played them. :wink:

Im going with the Big Pass !!!

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:50 pm
by Dirko
As Pass used to be a Carlton rookie, I'm going him !!

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:01 pm
by MightyEagles
Blue Boy wrote:Since im an expert on the Eagles players beating us almost every time we have ever played them. :wink:

Im going with the Big Pass !!!


Only because he kicked 10 on sturt the other year.

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:41 pm
by TigerBoss
Passador FF
Schwarze CHF or roaming around inside 50.

Passador close to goal is as dangerous as any other forward in the comp. I don't think he'd have the legs to play too much further up the ground, so you'd want to maximise his opportunities near goals inside 50. One of the best set shots going around...if not THE best.

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:43 pm
by MightyEagles
Passa has kicked 35.6 from 6 games this year.
Not sure about Schwarze.

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:53 pm
by TigerBoss
MightyEagles wrote:Passa has kicked 35.6 from 6 games this year.
Not sure about Schwarze.


Proof enough that Passador deserves to be FF...

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:50 pm
by spell_check
TigerBoss wrote:
MightyEagles wrote:Passa has kicked 35.6 from 6 games this year.
Not sure about Schwarze.


Proof enough that Passador deserves to be FF...


Ah, but Schwarze has got 22.3.

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:36 pm
by Mickyj
spell_check wrote:
TigerBoss wrote:
MightyEagles wrote:Passa has kicked 35.6 from 6 games this year.
Not sure about Schwarze.


Proof enough that Passador deserves to be FF...


Ah, but Schwarze has got 22.3.


From about four games spelly ?
Interesting points above .Have watched the Eagles forward line with interest .I noted that Trent had trouble working with Ben.But when Ben swapped with Kenny. Trent worked well at CHF when Kenny was at FF.
Not sure why.
And with Adam at CHF Ben has worked well at FF.Take adam out i think Ben has problems being in the Forward line .
And Passador seems to work well with everyone .

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:43 pm
by sturtpeter
I think having both of these quality Forwards in the Square may make the Eagles Fwd line a little topheavy. :D

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:47 pm
by TigerBoss
Eagles have lost a few games this year, when they've relied too heavily on Passador and have gone to him at EVERY forward opportunity. Fair enough, in many of these games Passador kicked 5 or 6, but if you are an opposition side, and have to man up on Passador, Schwarze, Salter, Grocke, as well as the little fellas, then suddenly the Eagles look much more potent.

Bays forward line all year, as a comparison, has worked VERY well with Duldig, Grima, Sellar, McConnell and Bode as their key targets. Hell, how do you possibly cover all of those players.

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:06 pm
by Mickyj
TigerBoss wrote:Eagles have lost a few games this year, when they've relied too heavily on Passador and have gone to him at EVERY forward opportunity. Fair enough, in many of these games Passador kicked 5 or 6, but if you are an opposition side, and have to man up on Passador, Schwarze, Salter, Grocke, as well as the little fellas, then suddenly the Eagles look much more potent.

Bays forward line all year, as a comparison, has worked VERY well with Duldig, Grima, Sellar, McConnell and Bode as their key targets. Hell, how do you possibly cover all of those players.


You have hit the nail on the Head Tiger Boss .To much kick the ball to Pass or Ben .But last week the forward line worked well together including Klun crumbing goals fitzy was quiet though.
Having said that at least once Ben out marked 3 defenders .That is the big difference between the two FF's one can take the big high flying pack mark the other is the quick lead .Makes it hard for the defenders to man up and then if Kenny goes forward a much taller player that can lead and take pack marks.

Re: Passador or Schwarze?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:53 am
by TigerBoss
Hooray for me.