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Graham Cornes article on Jack Cahill.......

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:48 am
by Sojourner
"The ex-AFL player became increasingly disapointed as he sat through the South Adelaide team meetings. After all he had played at the highest level with a club that was at the forefront of the modern game with its coaching and technical expertise. John Cahill's message was too simple, his game plan too basic. And, shock horror, at half time when his team was struggling, Cahill had the temerity to speak "robustly" to his players, in a manner that was sure to unsettle young ego's. So the dissapointment became frustration. inflamed by annoyance and thus the seeds of discontent sprouted roots throughout the club, it doesnt take much"......

There is plenty more to this article, yet this first section sums up the point that I do want to address. Clearly Cornes does not name the said player, yet it can only be one of either Jason Torney or Clay Sampson. One the Captain of the club, the other the new coach of the club.

What concerns me greatly at this point is what is supposed to happen next?
Assuming the article is factual and I have no reason to belive that it isnt, we have a situation where either the current coach or the captain of the club has been actively involved in White-Anting Jack Cahill. The same player no doubt then no doubt expects loyalty from the playing group, something that he himself would not give to the coach of the club.

The question has been raised about will South win the wooden spoon? It is my feeling that the answer is yes and will be for several years as a direct result of the way that the playing group at South are being given the Green Light to go White-Ant whomever they like and can be assured that in doing so that members on the board will back them on it 100%. Somthing to be really proud of..... :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:00 am
by smithy
Basically confirms what Fitzy said on air the other day.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:15 am
by southee
Sojourner....totally agree 100% to what you are saying.

It is the darkest period I have ever known as a South supporter/member (30 + years). I have always held my head up high win, lose or draw but now i have to say I am a little embarrassed to the events of the last few days to say the least.

This year membership is well down from 2007. Crowds are up (Cahill factor would have helped) but really were to from here? Who runs the football club? Members need to know answers! Once again players seem to have the final say or so it sounds. I was on the understanding that when Cahill was appointed, he had full reign and was going to call the shots. To sign an unexperienced coach until 2009 is a very scary thought....it is a worry. What happens if we dont win a game for the rest of the year? Will the new coach be white anted?

It has been a vicious cycle for many years at the SAFC and it really needs to stop. I was listening to the radio today and hearing callers ring in and thought we are not helping our club by any means with the publicity we are getting.

It will be interesting how many members sign up for 2009......

The saga continues of the trials and tribulations of being a South Adelaide supporter/member.... :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:05 am
by Wedgie
I'm just amazed Corne's can't spell 'horror'. :?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:40 am
by redandblack
Wedgie wrote:I'm just amazed Corne's can't spell 'horror'. :?


I share your 'dissapointment' :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:40 am
by Adelaide Hawk
John Cahill spoke robustly? Oh no, we can't have AFL players subjected to honest opinions can we? How precious are footballers becoming these days?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:22 am
by Macca19
If its true that the captain has white-anted the coach....absolutely pathetic.

Where do you go from there?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:25 am
by blueandwhite
There are plenty of suggestions on this forum that different elements in the club undermined the coach. From what I have heard and will not for obvious reasons elaborate, there were some fairly concerning issues with the coach as well. Also upon hearing the news most of the playing group in particular the younger fellows were pretty upset. All I am saying is there are 2 sides to every story and until we the members know the truth- which the club has stated we will recieve in a letter shortly(?), we should keep our powder dry.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:07 pm
by footynut
Definitely not Souths brightest day. Saw them play last week and they were terrible. Hope Clay can turn things around or it may be another long year.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:23 pm
by bayman
Wedgie wrote:I'm just amazed Corne's can't spell 'horror'. :?


& i am totally amazed you can't spell cornes :wink: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:25 pm
by bayman
i wonder whether a certain south player regrets signing with south rather than with the club he lives 5 minutes from

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:40 pm
by gadj1976
I don't often support Jack Cahill but realistically what's he supposed to do with a team that obviously isn't good at any gameplan supplied to them. Go back to basics.

Yes Clay and Jason might have been through more technical gameplans, but South as a team are not anywhere near that level. They need simplicity, understand the basics as a baseline before taking on more detailed gameplans.

I've read on here that the 80's style of kick long and crumb wasn't to South's liking. I think that's an excellent baseline for them to build on. And if it's not to their liking, what is?

St Kilda took on Malcolm Blight and instead of listening and taking on everything he had to offer as a twice premiership coach, they ditched him cos it wasn't their way of doing things.

Have South done the same thing, but not learnt from St Kilda's example?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:49 pm
by Psyber
I don't know what he did as a football coach, but as a car company executive Graham Cornes had a record of speaking "robustly" and even abusively to his sales staff, one of whom I knew reasonably well.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:23 pm
by am Bays
Wedgie wrote:I'm just amazed Corne's can't spell 'horror'. :?


I could have a go at you about the use of the possesive apostrophy (Cornes' but not needed in your example) but given my typing skills and the grammatical and spellings errors I make in my posts.... :oops: :oops: I thinks its best I shut up.

That is unless of course it is a deliberate mistake on your part....

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:26 pm
by Dog_ger
I personally think the "GREAT MAN" is too old to coach

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:30 pm
by Dirko
Dog_ger wrote:I personally think the "GREAT MAN" is too old to coach


Too old ?

I can't understand the saying of "it's a young man's game" etc etc

The best coach/manager in the World, Sir Alex Ferguson is turning 70 in a couple of years...

mmm is he too old ?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:33 pm
by zipzap
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Wedgie wrote:I'm just amazed Corne's can't spell 'horror'. :?


I could have a go at you about the use of the possesive apostrophy (Cornes' but not needed in your example) but given my typing skills and the grammatical and spellings errors I make in my posts.... :oops: :oops: I thinks its best I shut up.

That is unless of course it is a deliberate mistake on your part....


think it's best ;)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:37 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
SJABC wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:I personally think the "GREAT MAN" is too old to coach


Too old ?

I can't understand the saying of "it's a young man's game" etc etc

The best coach/manager in the World, Sir Alex Ferguson is turning 70 in a couple of years...

mmm is he too old ?


What they mean is younger people think they know everything, and how could anyone over 35 possibly know anything. It's an Australian thing.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:08 pm
by smac
SJABC wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:I personally think the "GREAT MAN" is too old to coach


Too old ?

I can't understand the saying of "it's a young man's game" etc etc

The best coach/manager in the World, Sir Alex Ferguson is turning 70 in a couple of years...

mmm is he too old ?

That's in soccer... Different game COMPLETELY in regards to coaching/managing.

It's a lot about the passion to continue learning and improving to keep up with the game and Cahill didn't have too much of either.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:13 pm
by am Bays
zipzap wrote:think it's best ;)


:lol: :lol: