DEVELOPING LOCAL LEAGUES

[bickle]

Hello all
can someone answer this question?
"why doesnt SANFL clubs give an insight to local clubs, within their area, on modern training techniques and skill development for the juniors"?
(Even if a hardcopy was sent to all local clubs).
i asked the question when i was at Centrals for a coaching seminar.
They started to talk about what they do...bla,bla,bla, but it was all about country & Gawler leagues. We have a few juniors at Centrals, which is a credit to our club (Elizabeth area) but i think if SANFL clubs gave a sort of blue print to clubs maybe we could develop all juniors better and make local comps more appealing.

[Rushby Hinds]

What age group juniors?


Great post, this is James Fantasia's area.

The Afl/sanfl has spent a lot putting junior development officers throughout SANFL, they are always looking for new ideas, this should be asked/forwarded to the SANFL.

Presumably one of these blokes was running your night?


P.S. You could always do the Robert Oatey level 1 coaching course...

Perhaps the funniest (not intentional) night i've had for the last 4 years...


Anyone else who has done the course would understand what i mean.

[bickle]

What age group juniors?


Great post, this is James Fantasia's area.

The Afl/sanfl has spent a lot putting junior development officers throughout SANFL, they are always looking for new ideas, this should be asked/forwarded to the SANFL.

Presumably one of these blokes was running your night?


P.S. You could always do the Robert Oatey level 1 coaching course...

Perhaps the funniest (not intentional) night i've had for the last 4 years...


Anyone else who has done the course would understand what i mean.

the younger the better, u/13's up i guess maybe younger but you can make it fun for the younger ones, Daniel Healy done our night.
thanks for the reply Rushby

[smac]

I am sure I can assist you in some way burglar. I've sent you a PM so we can have a discussion off-the-boards.

Cheers.

[Footy Chick]

I was at the National "Be Active" Seminar a few weeks back and James actually presented a lecture on how to fast track the development of younger players, perhaps try and contact him for a copy of the notes...

[am Bays]

There is a school of thought that with young developing athletes keeping it simple and getting a good grounding in the basics is best up until the U/15 age group.

With the evolving nature of footy tactics preparing young kids for a modern styyle of footy(tactics wise) as 15 yo may not prepare them for the footy they will be required to play as 25 yo.

The basics of disposing both feet, soft hands out in front, picking the ball up, one grabbing pushing back off contests, looking for the correct give i.e. not to the person 2 m away but 10 m so the man on the mark wont cream him etc are probably more valuable to a young developing athlete than fancy modern tactical drills. I know from my time at Glenelg we would much rather a kid with the basic fundamentals than the tactically aware fancy player who had major technical flaws in their game.

If you are looking for ideas and Australian Football coaching resources, Rod O'reilly produced a greats skill drills book about 6 years ago which is full of different skill and team drills for Footy. David Wheadon produced two great books on "modern" footy in the early 90s. One of Wheadon's book Drills and SKills in Australian Football has some great skill excecution and decision drills in it. His other book TActics in Modern Football is good to for its historical run down on the evolution of tactics in Footy. It also debunks the myth that Sam Newman is just a loud mouth show off because he is interviewed in the book and his tactics knowledge and insight into the game is up there with the best.

I got my copies of Wheadon's book at the ACHPER bookshop at 214 Port Rd. If they aren't there I suggest you contact the SANFL on where you might be able to source them and O'Reillys book. I'd be surprised if they didn't have them so ask Rob Oatey if you can photo copy some of their resources.

If you are a qualified coach you can always got to the Sport and Rec Library on Valetta Rd Kidman PArk. Their coaching resources are 2nd to none in the state. Lots of skill and decision making resources can be found in there.

[locky801]

Guess it depends what area your are from. I am involved with Junior footy at Broadview and we have great assistance fromthe NAFC and both Adelaide based AFL clubs. They all on a regular basis send players out to help with training, pass on experiences etc, in our club this involves the kids from the Under 8 age group right through to Under 15s. Also we are pretty lucky that we have a few parents out there with loads of experience who are willing to help, guys like Darel Hart, Bradley Ryan and Brenton Phillips to name a few. It is quite amazing to see the kids develop their skills at such a young age with the assistance of the NAFC, AFL and those I have mentioned.

[smac]

Sadly Locky, your club is one of the lucky ones. Not all clubs have former league footballers helping out with their knowledge and skills. Living around the corner from Broadview Oval, I have often wandered around to watch training/games and the difference to many clubs is immeasurable.

Hopefully we can get SANFL clubs more interested in passing knowledge to the local clubs as a rule and not an exception.

[bickle]

Thank you 1980tassie, locky801, falcon chick & smac for responding.

will have to go have a look at those books suggested.

locky801, your club is very fortunate to have those qualified people helping the club.
do you beleive that they helped your juniors with their experience, in other words, since they have been helping, have you seen the more skillful juniors come on quicker?
we used to have a condition on coaching juniors that A Graders had to coach them & it paid off greatly with our 300 or so juniors playing good footy with a majority of our teams playing finals,
with a hell of a lot of them now playing A Grade either here or at other clubs.

falconchick have you James's number or email address?

have spoken to SMAC and is assisting with the issue.

thank you all

[locky801]

Thank you 1980tassie, locky801, falcon chick & smac for responding.

will have to go have a look at those books suggested.

locky801, your club is very fortunate to have those qualified people helping the club.
do you beleive that they helped your juniors with their experience, in other words, since they have been helping, have you seen the more skillful juniors come on quicker?
we used to have a condition on coaching juniors that A Graders had to coach them & it paid off greatly with our 300 or so juniors playing good footy with a majority of our teams playing finals,
with a hell of a lot of them now playing A Grade either here or at other clubs.

**** have you James's number or email address?

have spoken to SMAC and is assisting with the issue.

thank you all

They definately have helped, I have not seen the work that has been undertaken with most sides as I am involved in Under 8's, the work that some of these guys put in is great, nothing expected of them, they just roll up and have a kick, a chat and help out. One example last year we had a lad whose kicking was as you can imagine not that flash at his age, Harty just walked up had a chat took him away from the main group for about half an hour for a few nights, the lad ended up being by far the best kick, (both feet mind you) and licked around 30 goals. I have seen the great improvement in most of the lads and to be honest I don't think that their improvement is much to do with my coaching, but help from those mentioned. It disappoints me that other clubs juniors do not have this benefit, I know that it also helps out with your own coaching because you still learn so much. I guess we are lucky that these guys have sons that play for us as well, although in higher grades.Should be something that the SANFL look at I think but I can imagine how difficult it would be with so many clubs and junior sides around these days

[johntheclaret]

Thank you 1980tassie, locky801, falcon chick & smac for responding.

will have to go have a look at those books suggested.

locky801, your club is very fortunate to have those qualified people helping the club.
do you beleive that they helped your juniors with their experience, in other words, since they have been helping, have you seen the more skillful juniors come on quicker?
we used to have a condition on coaching juniors that A Graders had to coach them & it paid off greatly with our 300 or so juniors playing good footy with a majority of our teams playing finals,
with a hell of a lot of them now playing A Grade either here or at other clubs.

**** have you James's number or email address?

have spoken to SMAC and is assisting with the issue.

thank you all

One example last year we had a lad whose kicking was as you can imagine not that flash at his age, Harty just walked up had a chat took him away from the main group for about half an hour for a few nights, the lad ended up being by far the best kick, (both feet mind you) and licked around 30 goals.

Do you think Harty can spend some time with Emu

[locky801]

Someone has to John