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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Jimmy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:01 pm

Wedgie wrote:I didnt say we were intelligent mate, I just said we were more intelligent than Sturt supporters. Nothing to write home about though as it would be like bragging about being taller than a midget. If you were intelligent you would have worked that out. ;)

PS NOTE the smiley, collectively we're really as dumb as dogshit and Sturt supporters are all rocket scientists. ;)


well, some of our players have been rhodes scholars, rocket scientists, chief justices...the list goes on... id have a guess that some of the supporters are just as clever. ;)
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Psyber » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:25 pm

Jimmy wrote:
Wedgie wrote:I didnt say we were intelligent mate, I just said we were more intelligent than Sturt supporters. Nothing to write home about though as it would be like bragging about being taller than a midget. If you were intelligent you would have worked that out. ;)

PS NOTE the smiley, collectively we're really as dumb as dogshit and Sturt supporters are all rocket scientists. ;)
well, some of our players have been rhodes scholars, rocket scientists, chief justices...the list goes on... id have a guess that some of the supporters are just as clever. ;)
There is some truth there Jimmy. I had some Sturt leanings when I worked with Tony Clarkson briefly because I got on well with him.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Pseudo » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:51 pm

Jimmy wrote:well, some of our players have been rhodes scholars, rocket scientists, chief justices...the list goes on... id have a guess that some of the supporters are just as clever. ;)

I can think of at least one Roosters ex-player who is a "rocket" scientist... in fact he judged my Masters' thesis 8)
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby beenreal » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:03 pm

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hondo71 wrote:Have you all forgotten that for the first 3-4 years of the Power's existence we were told (and accepted) that 1870-1996 PAFC had moved into the AFL and turned into PAP (with PAMFC being a new entity)?

Speak for yourself. Some of us do not accept reality as dictated to us by an AFL club, and prefer to use our own minds to interpret the evidence as it appears.

hondo71 wrote:Don't over analyse it, you end up in an endless loop. 2 clubs, 1 club, 1870, 1997, 61 captains, 5 captains .... who cares there's bigger issues in life!

I ageree with that. But then I - and indeed most punters on this board - ain't the ones who feel the need to stick their versions of reality down everyone else's throat. I don't care what the Power halfwits want to believe. I do however object to the expectation that I will listen to it and accept it as gospel. The more fervent "Power is the real Port" fanatics are akin to the Jehovah's Witnesses: you can respect their need to believe in something which patently false but ultimately irrelevant - but it's still a pain in the arse to answer the door when they come knocking.


I find this post highly ironic since, it was an opposition supporter hijacking this thread to push their own opinion on OUR history.

For the record, as a PAFC Member I was at the meeting in the mid 90's. As a member, was asked to vote on MOVING the club from the SANFL into the AFL. YES. The second question put to vote was to CONTINUE having the Magpies in the SANFL. Again YES.

It's not that hard? 2 separate clubs, now playing in 2 separate competitions, with a link back to an establishment date of 1870.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Mic » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:27 pm

Apart from having a different name, different team mascot, different colours (and a different playing top), different home ground and playing in a different football competition (that play different teams for a different premiership trophy with different named medals that can be won for B&F and goalkicking), yep Port Power has a 100+ year history, not the PAFC...
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Barto » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:22 pm

Mic wrote:Apart from having a different name, different team mascot, different colours (and a different playing top), different home ground and playing in a different football competition (that play different teams for a different premiership trophy with different named medals that can be won for B&F and goalkicking), yep Port Power has a 100+ year history, not the PAFC...


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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Voice » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:48 pm

Barto wrote:
Mic wrote:Apart from having a different name, different team mascot, different colours (and a different playing top), different home ground and playing in a different football competition (that play different teams for a different premiership trophy with different named medals that can be won for B&F and goalkicking), yep Port Power has a 100+ year history, not the PAFC...


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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby beenreal » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:54 pm

Mic wrote:Apart from having a different name, different team mascot, different colours (and a different playing top), different home ground and playing in a different football competition (that play different teams for a different premiership trophy with different named medals that can be won for B&F and goalkicking), yep Port Power has a 100+ year history, not the PAFC...


Talk about selective editing? And who is this Port Power that you speak of?

The club was named the Port Adelaide Football Club in the SANFL. Tell me what it is named now in the AFL einstein.

The club called Alberton Oval home in the SANFL. And guess what it still does. It only plays at Football Park, exactly the same as when they played at Adelaide Oval during the 70's when in dispute with the council. Did that make them a different club?

And so you think a different guernsey makes a different club? Let's try Magenta and Blue, Blue and White hoops and various Black and White (and now Teal) designs. All worn by the Port Adelaide Football Club.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Voice » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:07 pm

beenreal wrote:
And so you think a different guernsey makes a different club? Let's try Magenta and Blue, Blue and White hoops and various Black and White (and now Teal) designs. All worn by the Port Adelaide Football Club.

So thats why the girls on stilts were wearing magenta around Alberton on saturday, must have been a flashback to your past :lol:
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Pseudo » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:09 pm

beenreal wrote:For the record, as a PAFC Member I was at the meeting in the mid 90's. As a member, was asked to vote on MOVING the club from the SANFL into the AFL. YES. The second question put to vote was to CONTINUE having the Magpies in the SANFL. Again YES.

And despite this vote, a new entity was first registered in 1995, and is the entity which currently trades as the Port Adelaide Football Club. Instead of grizzling at those of us who don't buy into your fairy story, you'd be better off directing your angst at those people who had a mandate to put the original Port in the AFL and then failed to do so.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Pseudo » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:14 pm

beenreal wrote:The club called Alberton Oval home in the SANFL. And guess what it still does.

Kind of amusing that the Power paid the Magpies a lot of money to acquire an asset which it already owned.

Either that, or the Magpies was the original owners, and hence the original Port.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Macca19 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:19 pm

Pseudo wrote:
beenreal wrote:And despite this vote, a new entity was first registered in 1995, and is the entity which currently trades as the Port Adelaide Football Club.


Correct. So I guess this means that Collingwood is only 26 years old...considering it was only registered in 1983, and Melbourne in 1980 etc.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Macca19 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:21 pm

Mic wrote:Apart from having a different name


So the Port Adelaide Football Club changed its name to the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Makes sense.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Mic » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:34 pm

Macca19 wrote:
Mic wrote:Apart from having a different name


So the Port Adelaide Football Club changed its name to the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Makes sense.


Thought they were called the Port Power Football Club. What is the Magpies called then?
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby beenreal » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:39 pm

Mic wrote:
Macca19 wrote:
Mic wrote:Apart from having a different name


So the Port Adelaide Football Club changed its name to the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Makes sense.


Thought they were called the Port Power Football Club. What is the Magpies called then?


All that says is that you've got nothing left in your flimsy arsenal, so it's back to basics. Not going to bother.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Barto » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:42 pm

beenreal wrote:Talk about selective editing? And who is this Port Power that you speak of?



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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Pseudo » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:45 pm

Macca19 wrote:
Pseudo wrote:And despite this vote, a new entity was first registered in 1995, and is the entity which currently trades as the Port Adelaide Football Club.


Correct. So I guess this means that Collingwood is only 26 years old...considering it was only registered in 1983, and Melbourne in 1980 etc.

Since the standard party line is that the Real Port was still playing in the SANFL in 1995, the newly registered entry cannot have been the Real Port, ipso facto.

Now you could amend the standard party line to read that Port left the SANFL after 1994 but I doubt that would go down well with the faithful, having preached something which is mutually exclusive to this for the last 12 years.

Alternatively you could argue that the legal entity isn't what makes the club - but then you're leaving precious little which defines the club, having already dispensed with all the icons (nickname, logo, colours), current players of the time, coach, oval (since the Power had to buy it), board structure, premiership reunions, etc. There ain't much left to define the club; the Port Power emperor has been systematically stripped naked.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby Mic » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:47 pm

beenreal wrote:
Mic wrote:
Macca19 wrote:
Mic wrote:Apart from having a different name


So the Port Adelaide Football Club changed its name to the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Makes sense.


Thought they were called the Port Power Football Club. What is the Magpies called then?


All that says is that you've got nothing left in your flimsy arsenal, so it's back to basics. Not going to bother.


Got to keep it to basics with Port supporters I guess. Maybe for me as well because I still don't understand the whole PAFC/Port Power deal.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby smithy » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:51 pm

Why don't they just change their name to the Saint Apollonia Football Club and put this argument to rest.
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Re: Sturt v Power trial game

Postby zipzap » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:55 pm

smithy wrote:Why don't they just change their name to the Saint Apollonia Football Club and put this argument to rest.


Or Newport FC. They'd have a ready-made sponsor a couple of blocks over with a similar business strategy.
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