RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby JK » Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:42 pm

TigerBoss wrote:
PhilH wrote:If I was Glenelg or Sturt I WOULD NOT want a match up with Central in the QF.

In the last 5 seasons

Central have played in every finals series
- 11 finals 10 wins 1 loss

Glenelg 1 finals series
- 2 finals 1 win 1 loss

Sturt 4 finals series
- 6 finals 1 win 5 losses

The Dogs may not have been as dominant as seasons past
BUT they have more winning finals experience in their lineup
than the rest of the competition combined.

NB - Only one loser of the Qualifying final has ever recovered to win the premiership (Sturt 1976).


This is precisely the point I'm trying to make...


I probably should have explained what I meant a bit better ... I reckon this year more so than others (when there's generally been a clear, dominant Minor Premier) the winner of the Quali could be in better shape to win the 2nd Semi than the Minor Premier coming off the break.
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby Pseudo » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:09 pm

baysman wrote:
given the closeness of the top 3 teams


Are they really that close ? The way the Bays are playing at the moment, the other two would tear us apart !

The Bays need to really take a good look at themselves, get that " Big Headed " nature out of their systems and focus on the game at hand !

Yesterday's loss was truly p*** poor.


Could. Not. Agree. More. Well put.
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby TigerBoss » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:41 pm

Pseudo wrote:
baysman wrote:
given the closeness of the top 3 teams


Are they really that close ? The way the Bays are playing at the moment, the other two would tear us apart !

The Bays need to really take a good look at themselves, get that " Big Headed " nature out of their systems and focus on the game at hand !

Yesterday's loss was truly p*** poor.


Could. Not. Agree. More. Well put.


Careful Pseudo, the site mods might place a limit on full-stops like they did with the smilies... :wink:
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby sturtpeter » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:49 pm

Phil!

We are the real deal in 2008 :)

Can not compare Sturt 2004 2005 2007 with 2008. :wink:
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby purch » Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:31 pm

This was a great game to watch on tv. Really enjoyed it, esp. the tense last quarter. Bays had their chances but finished poorly. Great intensity from the Eags after quarter time.

Thanks Torrens :)

I mean Warriors...
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby goodoldeaglerock » Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:45 pm

ha ha it was only glenelg. :lol:

may premiers count for nothing

they dont play finals on postage stamp parks like glenelg oval. Glenelg got lost and out run by a team full of junior players, enjoy losing to centrals first up in the finals, hopefully the eagles make it to finish you off again like last year.

Dale Symmons is a gun, goal of the year yesterday.
assist of the century in last years finals series

the umpires were bad both ways, had no impact on the fact glenelg thought they had it won 10 minutes into the second quarter.

bring on norwood
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby cd » Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:24 pm

As Ron said at presentations last night the match committee found it very difficult to give awards as was a good overall team performance. Ron very pleased the Players MVP was also the match committee's best.

Ron felt we weren't out of it and paid great credit to the players perserverance and commitment to the task. As Ron asked the members present to recognise it was all about the skills and pressure of playing group that won the day.
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby Wedgie » Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:47 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby am Bays » Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:49 pm

50 more possessions
35:25 advantage in clearances
18 more inside 50

not through lack of opportunity did we lose this game just a lack of poise and skill execution which is very fixable. If we got beaten like we did aganst south and Centrals where our workrate and opportunities weren't there - I'd be worried. Not saying yesterdays workrate was totally acceptable but the fact we won most of teh footy in and around the contest shows we were working. The fact we got so much of the footy is a positive = As Alan Jeans says you've got no hope of winning if you can't get the footy.

Make no mistake we lost this game, Eagles didn't win it.

Bring on Port, looking forward to playing them out Alberton next week.
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby Dutchy » Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:54 pm

PhilH wrote:If I was Glenelg or Sturt I WOULD NOT want a match up with Central in the QF.

In the last 5 seasons

Central have played in every finals series
- 11 finals 10 wins 1 loss

Glenelg 1 finals series
- 2 finals 1 win 1 loss

Sturt 4 finals series
- 6 finals 1 win 5 losses

The Dogs may not have been as dominant as seasons past
BUT they have more winning finals experience in their lineup
than the rest of the competition combined.

NB - Only one loser of the Qualifying final has ever recovered to win the premiership (Sturt 1976).


We have lost as many finals in the past 5 years as the Dogs!

Id still like to know what teh Dogs have done this year to be favoured for the flag? :?
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby Wedgie » Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:56 pm

Dutchy wrote:We have lost as many finals in the past 5 years as the Dogs!

Id still like to know what teh Dogs have done this year to be favoured for the flag? :?


Don't stress Dutchy, the Bays have as much chance of winning the flag as North Melbourne do in 2008. :wink:
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby cd » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:00 pm

Serious question Tassie

Do you think you over used the ball due to pressure in last half? Seemed to me we stopped your runners and you handballed across lines and eventually the turn over came - also we did block it in - where we seemed to out number your blokes at stoppages -(I reckon one spot had about 12 bounces in a row).

I do think we won because we stopped your run and you werent able to break the lines freely - you had more touches but we did more with it??

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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby Dutchy » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:02 pm

Eagles talls are very good and given fine weather on Elimination Final day will be very tough to beat...
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby am Bays » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:08 pm

cd wrote:Serious question Tassie

Do you think you over used the ball due to pressure in last half? Seemed to me we stopped your runners and you handballed across lines and eventually the turn over came - also we did block it in - where we seemed to out number your blokes at stoppages -(I reckon one spot had about 12 bounces in a row).

I do think we won because we stopped your run and you werent able to break the lines freely - you had more touches but we did more with it??

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Seeing as I was at Glenelg and only saw the last 1/4 on TV I don't disagree with you assessment CD. I am going with our official Stats via Ecky. Yep your pressure was a significant factor on the outcome of the game. However we have shown this year we can deal with it but yesterday we didn't. We need to look at oursleves for why we loss not at anything the Eagles necessarily did.

I'm not saying yesterdays loss isn't concerning BUT I would be more worried if we weren't getting our hands on it.

We know what we have to do to improve, we've done before this year and I know we can do it.
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby cd » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:12 pm

Agree - getting the ball first critical - and the Bays certainly do get their share - it is the system after that can then be the problem - perhaps a good test to have now re pressure than later Tassie.

Also early in the game the Bays were in front a lot more than us.

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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby goodoldeaglerock » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:17 pm

Petrenko flogged bode

our young blokes were great in the last quarter too bad most of them will get drafted
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby am Bays » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:21 pm

cd wrote:Agree - getting the ball first critical - and the Bays certainly do get their share - it is the system after that can then be the problem - perhaps a good test to have now re pressure than later Tassie.

Also early in the game the Bays were in front a lot more than us.

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Thats the area where when I say I wasn't satisfied with the work-rate where we need to improve. Happy with our workrate to get the footy but our workrate to do the basics like get in front and defensive pressure in our forward 50, is where we need to have a good hard look in the mirror.
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby bayman » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:36 pm

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cd wrote:Serious question Tassie

Do you think you over used the ball due to pressure in last half? Seemed to me we stopped your runners and you handballed across lines and eventually the turn over came - also we did block it in - where we seemed to out number your blokes at stoppages -(I reckon one spot had about 12 bounces in a row).

I do think we won because we stopped your run and you werent able to break the lines freely - you had more touches but we did more with it??

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Seeing as I was at Glenelg and only saw the last 1/4 on TV I don't disagree with you assessment CD. I am going with our official Stats via Ecky. Yep your pressure was a significant factor on the outcome of the game. However we have shown this year we can deal with it but yesterday we didn't. We need to look at oursleves for why we loss not at anything the Eagles necessarily did.

I'm not saying yesterdays loss isn't concerning BUT I would be more worried if we weren't getting our hands on it.

We know what we have to do to improve, we've done before this year and I know we can do it.



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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby joelie » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:49 pm

Yep.. impossible to comment from seeing a qtr on TV. Glenelgs intensity was very poor in the second half. Eagles definitely wanted it more. They were at the fall of the ball. Always had someone down in marking contests. Glenelg thought it was in the bag at 7.5 to 2.5 5 minutes before half time. Glenelgs defensive pressure was non existant (Bar Duldig). Although in saying all that I have no doubt had Backwell played Glenelg would have got up. His class ball use inside 50 wouldve made a massive difference.
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Re: RD 21 Eagles d Glenelg Review

Postby am Bays » Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:10 pm

Thank you for both agreeing with me - or at least the point I was trying to make, we lost the game through lack of forward pressure and poor skill execution. AS you said joelie we shut up shop at the 5 min mark of the 2nd qtr - we let the eagles back into the game. As I said we lost this game and the reason why we lost are very fixable.

Bring on Port, cant wait for this Sunday.
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