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Postby sydney-dog » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:00 pm

In regards to Gill

I would not think he has the size to play at CHF at AFL level, my view is he will play as a third tall or as a leading FF, given his speed over the first 20m
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Postby dash61 » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:33 pm

I would hope that Nick Gill plays all game this season for the crows thus causing Scotty Welsh to be dropped back to westies for the whole season
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Postby sturt1 » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:53 pm

One thing that is a bit of a worry is that WA produced alot more players for this draft than SA. For a competition that is dying what does it say about ours :?
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Postby Aerie » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:31 pm

sydney-dog wrote:In regards to Gill

I would not think he has the size to play at CHF at AFL level, my view is he will play as a third tall or as a leading FF, given his speed over the first 20m


Do Sturt play in the AFL? He'd do alright if they did...
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Postby Blue Boy » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:34 pm

Why didnt Hurley get selected !!! :?
It is what it is !!!
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Postby sydney-dog » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:40 pm

Blue Boy

maybe he is viewed as too small and too slow
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Postby Blue Boy » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:50 pm

sydney-dog wrote:Blue Boy

maybe he is viewed as too small and too slow


Nothin wrong with his speed when he's playin - height well im sure littler kids have been picked up !!!

All Australian under 18 this year !!!
It is what it is !!!
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Postby sydney-dog » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:55 pm

your right small players are back in the fold, but they are players such as Davey and Pearce who have pace to burn, I think if you were to ask Hurley he would pin point his suppose lack of pace is why he has been ignored
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Postby spell_check » Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:19 pm

sturt1 wrote:One thing that is a bit of a worry is that WA produced alot more players for this draft than SA. For a competition that is dying what does it say about ours :?


Means that the talent stays here! :wink:
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Postby Jimmy » Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:10 am

Blue Boy wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Blue Boy

maybe he is viewed as too small and too slow


Nothin wrong with his speed when he's playin - height well im sure littler kids have been picked up !!!

All Australian under 18 this year !!!


dont knock it mate...its a plus for Sturt. :D

you know, bad luck to hurley and all....but the SFC win on this one (if he isnt rookied that is)
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Postby GWW » Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:01 am

I think its Hurley's disposal thats of more concern to the recruiters.
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Postby smac » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:23 am

Blue Boy wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Blue Boy

maybe he is viewed as too small and too slow


Nothin wrong with his speed when he's playin - height well im sure littler kids have been picked up !!!

All Australian under 18 this year !!!
David Kellett was a two time (I'm fairly certain) All Australian U18 Blue Boy. Was also touted as a top 10 draft pick about 4-5 years ago. Was never picked up and only ever managed a handful of league games and went to Salisbury North early this season from the dogs. Is currently not intending to play footy at all.

As astounding as many thought it at the time, it appeared the recruiters got it right by not picking him. Hopefully you get a long SANFL career out of Hurley.
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Postby Jimmy » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:57 am

smac wrote:
Blue Boy wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Blue Boy

maybe he is viewed as too small and too slow


Nothin wrong with his speed when he's playin - height well im sure littler kids have been picked up !!!

All Australian under 18 this year !!!
David Kellett was a two time (I'm fairly certain) All Australian U18 Blue Boy. Was also touted as a top 10 draft pick about 4-5 years ago. Was never picked up and only ever managed a handful of league games and went to Salisbury North early this season from the dogs. Is currently not intending to play footy at all.

As astounding as many thought it at the time, it appeared the recruiters got it right by not picking him. Hopefully you get a long SANFL career out of Hurley.


unfortunate about that kellet kid as he looked the goods but heard his attitude wasnt the best and he thought he was better than he was...hope hurley has his head screwed on right :)
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Postby Jar Man Out » Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:29 am

to be honest. if hurley was an U18 all australian from queensland we wouldnt even be having this discussion. SA Juniors consistently being overlooked in the draft .

More queenslanders picked up than South Aussies.
How can Queensland have more talented juniors than here in SA.

Simple answer is they dont.

At the national championships states are put into two divisions. SA, WA , Vic country and metro in one . Qld NSW tas NT in the other.

Why are the states seperated ???

because SA and WA juniors would kill a junior state team from Qld or NSW.

Yet more queensland kids get picked up ???

Why do we bother with the AFL ???
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Postby Macca19 » Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:44 am

Jimmy wrote:
smac wrote:
Blue Boy wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Blue Boy

maybe he is viewed as too small and too slow


Nothin wrong with his speed when he's playin - height well im sure littler kids have been picked up !!!

All Australian under 18 this year !!!
David Kellett was a two time (I'm fairly certain) All Australian U18 Blue Boy. Was also touted as a top 10 draft pick about 4-5 years ago. Was never picked up and only ever managed a handful of league games and went to Salisbury North early this season from the dogs. Is currently not intending to play footy at all.

As astounding as many thought it at the time, it appeared the recruiters got it right by not picking him. Hopefully you get a long SANFL career out of Hurley.


unfortunate about that kellet kid as he looked the goods but heard his attitude wasnt the best and he thought he was better than he was...hope hurley has his head screwed on right :)


From memory it wasnt his attitude, it was the fact he had the acceleration of a Mack Truck trying to start in 3rd gear going up a mountain.

His key move was to win the ball, find space and time and dispose of the ball. He was allowed to do this in the slower juniors at the time but wouldnt have been allowed anywhere near that amount of space at AFL level.

As GWW said, its more Hurleys lack of disposal accuracy which put recruiters off. Noone can doubt hes an absolute ball magnet, but he burned the ball far too much at the championships.
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Postby Jar Man Out » Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:11 am

Macca19 wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
smac wrote:
Blue Boy wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Blue Boy

maybe he is viewed as too small and too slow


Nothin wrong with his speed when he's playin - height well im sure littler kids have been picked up !!!

All Australian under 18 this year !!!
David Kellett was a two time (I'm fairly certain) All Australian U18 Blue Boy. Was also touted as a top 10 draft pick about 4-5 years ago. Was never picked up and only ever managed a handful of league games and went to Salisbury North early this season from the dogs. Is currently not intending to play footy at all.

As astounding as many thought it at the time, it appeared the recruiters got it right by not picking him. Hopefully you get a long SANFL career out of Hurley.


unfortunate about that kellet kid as he looked the goods but heard his attitude wasnt the best and he thought he was better than he was...hope hurley has his head screwed on right :)


From memory it wasnt his attitude, it was the fact he had the acceleration of a Mack Truck trying to start in 3rd gear going up a mountain.

His key move was to win the ball, find space and time and dispose of the ball. He was allowed to do this in the slower juniors at the time but wouldnt have been allowed anywhere near that amount of space at AFL level.

As GWW said, its more Hurleys lack of disposal accuracy which put recruiters off. Noone can doubt hes an absolute ball magnet, but he burned the ball far too much at the championships.





But obviously armitage hit the target everytime ????
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Postby Jimmy » Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:43 am

Macca19 wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
smac wrote:
Blue Boy wrote:
sydney-dog wrote:Blue Boy

maybe he is viewed as too small and too slow


Nothin wrong with his speed when he's playin - height well im sure littler kids have been picked up !!!

All Australian under 18 this year !!!
David Kellett was a two time (I'm fairly certain) All Australian U18 Blue Boy. Was also touted as a top 10 draft pick about 4-5 years ago. Was never picked up and only ever managed a handful of league games and went to Salisbury North early this season from the dogs. Is currently not intending to play footy at all.

As astounding as many thought it at the time, it appeared the recruiters got it right by not picking him. Hopefully you get a long SANFL career out of Hurley.


unfortunate about that kellet kid as he looked the goods but heard his attitude wasnt the best and he thought he was better than he was...hope hurley has his head screwed on right :)


From memory it wasnt his attitude, it was the fact he had the acceleration of a Mack Truck trying to start in 3rd gear going up a mountain.

His key move was to win the ball, find space and time and dispose of the ball. He was allowed to do this in the slower juniors at the time but wouldnt have been allowed anywhere near that amount of space at AFL level.

As GWW said, its more Hurleys lack of disposal accuracy which put recruiters off. Noone can doubt hes an absolute ball magnet, but he burned the ball far too much at the championships.


no worries...just saying what i heard. pity the kid seems to be giving up on footy all together.

would like to hear dogs fans on what they say about kellet...
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Postby sturt1 » Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:56 am

spell_check wrote:
sturt1 wrote:One thing that is a bit of a worry is that WA produced alot more players for this draft than SA. For a competition that is dying what does it say about ours :?


Means that the talent stays here! :wink:


Purely from a selfish point of view, great, however more AFL talent has been discovered in WA than here and it doesnt make sense if their comp is suposedly dying :roll:
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Postby SimonH » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:52 pm

Firstly, you can't judge the strength of a competition by the most promising 10, 15 or 20 juniors produced by the state where the comp is located. Not many of the WA draftees have played WAFL league, and those that have, have largely been bit-part players rather than central planks in the team. As you'd expect for 18 year olds. Number of kids taken in the draft, at most, measures the quality of your junior competitions and coaching.

Secondly, the numbers are always up and down like a jogger's nipple from year to year. Just plain ol' random variation in the number of 'potentially elite' players, out of well over a thousand 17 or 18 year olds in SA who play footy, will see to that. It's also exacerbated by variations in club needs (and the style of players who are trendy): 4 out of Queensland's 11 draftees this year were big units over 195cm. As to whether SA footy is going up, down, or staying static, you'd need to look at a 5 year rolling average of the number of SA kids drafted. Far too much effort for me to bother doing. Spelly?
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Postby spell_check » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:57 pm

SimonH wrote:Firstly, you can't judge the strength of a competition by the most promising 10, 15 or 20 juniors produced by the state where the comp is located. Not many of the WA draftees have played WAFL league, and those that have, have largely been bit-part players rather than central planks in the team. As you'd expect for 18 year olds. Number of kids taken in the draft, at most, measures the quality of your junior competitions and coaching.

Secondly, the numbers are always up and down like a jogger's nipple from year to year. Just plain ol' random variation in the number of 'potentially elite' players, out of well over a thousand 17 or 18 year olds in SA who play footy, will see to that. It's also exacerbated by variations in club needs (and the style of players who are trendy): 4 out of Queensland's 11 draftees this year were big units over 195cm. As to whether SA footy is going up, down, or staying static, you'd need to look at a 5 year rolling average of the number of SA kids drafted. Far too much effort for me to bother doing. Spelly?


I agree.
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