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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby topsywaldron » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:13 pm

Dutchy wrote:and Norwood havent been that bad at the Parade recently have they? 8)


We were at least trying to score, the fact that we couldn't is immaterial compared to Wests eighteen behind the ball nonsense. It's like watching Italian soccer the way Collins has them playing and anyone who knows soccer knows exactly how much fun that is.
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby bayman » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:22 pm

west have NO FORWARDS yet cupido roams across halfback & the centreline (i realise it is a trial) as stated earlier west would run forward & the player would have to stop, prop then turn sideways & kick across ground with a shortpass to a contest or handball to blokes standing still & almost always this resulted in a turn-around, i thought in the first half west had as much if not more of the ball than norwood but failed to capatilise on this because of the NO FORWARDS while norwood were a lot more methodic in its approach to goal, i think norwoods lesson out of the game is that they have to be 'switched on' when playing lowly ranked teams as they clearly took west lightly in the first half & we only saw a more 'switched on' norwood after half time when they definately lifted their intensity & work rate

i'll be backing south to beat west in round 1 as they can't kick enough goals to win games
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby NFC » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:35 pm

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NFC wrote:We saw the 2009 wooden spooners out there tonight. I’ll expand later but West will be lucky to win 3-4 games this year. Norwood were okay, good at times but patchy at others, but are miles above West who are rubbish.


Sorry for all of the reasonable West fans on here but I have to agree with this.

A gameplan that consistently sees players look up on the wing to see no one ahead of them is a self perpetuating folly which ends in six goals being kicked on a perfect night for football.

It is also really, really ugly and boring.

For the future of the game - Collins out.

Well said. Do they actually have a game plan?

Their skill level is terrible and I don't think I've ever seen a team go backwards as much as they do. They seriously go back just as much as they go forward. They NEVER have any options up forward in fact their best forward is used as a linkman across back flank/midfield. They are such a small side too with few big bodies. Willits is a hack, sorry, had to throw that in there. They are just so indecisive. They are where Norwood were at 3-4 years ago.
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby bayman » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:46 pm

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topsywaldron wrote: They are where Norwood were at 3-4 years ago.




norwood were never that bad, i'd suggest more like sturt when they had their horror run or glenelg when we had a horror run at the start of the decade
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby Big Phil » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:02 am

Hey Guys,

Headed down to The Parade again tonight to have a look at the Redlegs and Bloods take each other on in the second round of trial games for season 2009.

RESERVES:

NORWOOD - 2.3 5.7 9.8 12.9 = 81

WEST - 1.3 2.3 6.4 6.9 = 45


GOAL KICKERS:

NORWOOD - J.Skinner 5, B.Hanna 3, J.Aish, S.Muster, B.Gunning, W.O’Malley 1

WEST – A.Kinal 3, S.Brown, R.Nickolls, M.Shearer 1


BETTER PLAYERS:

NORWOOD – B.Hanna, J.Skinner, B.Gunning, C.Holm, M.Arbon

WEST – S.Bricknell, A.Kinal, S.Brown, M.Shearer


As to be expected for this time of year, the game started fairly scrappy and Norwood were struggling early to get the ball forward of centre, thanks in part to the pressure being put on them by West Adelaide. Both sides were over using the handball drastically and of course with poor execution, were forcing turnovers at will.

The Bloods forward line was impressive with the pressure applied to the Redleg defenders and this attributed to a couple of goals out of their 6 for the game. Alex Kinal was the best Westies forward on the ground and showed some promise and young Ryan Nickolls has a big body and hits the pack hard, also kicking an impressive goal from tight on the boundary line.

Tempers flared at ¼ time of the early game and a scuffle basically involving all 36 players on the field lasted for a good 4 or 5 minutes. Things also heated up later in the game when Norwood defender Nick Jackman was reported by umpire Richard Williams for a pretty big bump on his young West Adelaide opponent resulting in him being stretchered from the ground.

Skills from both sides were very ordinary at stages throughout the game resulting in a fairly scrappy game from a viewing spectacle. Promising young Redleg forward James Skinner managed to kick 5 first ½ goals resulting in him getting a chance in the league game along with Brady Dawe and Ben Gunning who impressed in just over a half of reserves action. Ben Hanna was also a handy player for the home side bobbing up with 3 goals.

West was well serviced by Scott Bricknell across half back and on the ball while Scott Brown had a few nice moments playing out on a wing. Former Sturt player Marc Borholm showed good versatility for the Bloods playing in a few various positions and Michael Shearer also looked good for the visitors. All in all, a very scrappy game with poor skills saw the Redlegs run out winners by a comfortable 36 points.



LEAGUE:

NORWOOD - 3.3 7.6 11.10 17.13 = 115

WEST - 2.2 4.4 6.5 6.9 = 45


GOAL KICKERS:

NORWOOD – J.Juniper 4, N.Lower, T.Schulz 3, B.Littler 2, G.Hughes, T.Weatherald, A.Lee, J.Coombes

WEST – S.Blesing 2, S.Bailey, S.Morris, S.Bailey, R.DeJongh 1


BETTER PLAYERS:

NORWOOD – P.Puopolo, N.Lower, J.Juniper, B.Littler, J.Gallagher, B.Zorzi, T.Schulz

WEST – S.Morris, B.Fisher, R.Ferguson, S.Bailey, B.Fisher


The game got off to a scrappy start and pretty much ended up the same way with skills and decision making from both sides very disappointing at varying stages. Norwood got off to the perfect start with Gavin Hughes swooping on a kick across goals from the Bloods to intercept and run into an open goal kicking the first major of the contest. From there on in, West Adelaide were their own worst enemy struggling for a functioning forward line throughout the course of the night. Brett Zorzi blanketed Wade Champion and any other opponent sent his way and Kieran McGuinness swooped on quite a few loose balls that came into the Bloods forward lines with poor decision making.

At times throughout the night West Adelaide had a few shining lights with both Fisher boys presenting well and Ryan Willetts working hard across centre half forward. Northern Bullants recruit Bronik Davies had his moments and young Steve Morris impressed in patches with his endeavour and attack on the ball. Other than that, the visitors struggled to use the ball well when they had it and constantly turned the ball over, it was just lucky that Norwood were not able to punish them as much as they should have because their skills were poor at certain stages as well.

Damien Cupido tried hard for West but as with last season, was being used as a sweeping half back and despite winning a bit of the ball, just had nothing presenting further up the ground leading to silly turn overs and shocking decisions made at certain times. The Bloods chose to play with plenty of numbers behind the ball causing the scrappiness of the contest. Nick Lower with 3 goals and Brendan Littler with 2 were good for the Redlegs once again and with Andy Lee having a quiet night only playing a half, Jack Juniper stepped up as the key forward finishing with 4 goals.

Toby Schulz had a purple pacth in the 3rd term bobbing up with 2 quick goals and continued on his good form from last week finishing with 3 for the game while Paul Puopolo was just magnificent as always with his attack on the ball and body. Steven Doyle and Dean Terlich were not seen after half time with what looked to be niggling injuries while Gavin Hughes looked pretty impressive in his first game back at The Parade in a while. All in all, it was a very poor display of skills from both sides with the home side proving too strong and running out comfortable winners by 70 points.
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby NFC » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:21 am

bayman wrote:
NFC wrote:
topsywaldron wrote: They are where Norwood were at 3-4 years ago.




norwood were never that bad, i'd suggest more like sturt when they had their horror run or glenelg when we had a horror run at the start of the decade

Yeah true, we never got that bad.
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby Voice » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:23 am

Big Phil wrote:
RESERVES:

NORWOOD - 2.3 5.7 9.8 12.9 = 62

WEST - 1.3 2.3 6.4 6.9 = 45


LEAGUE:

NORWOOD - 3.3 7.6 11.10 16.12 = 115

WEST - 2.2 4.4 6.5 6.6 = 45




Sorry to be picky BP but 16.12 is 108, 6.6 is 42
12.9 is 81 leaving the only one thats right as West reserves score.
Few bevvies tonight perhaps?
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby Thiele » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:25 am

Big Phil wrote:Things also heated up later in the game when Norwood defender Nick Jackman was reported by umpire Richard Williams for a pretty big bump on his young West Adelaide opponent resulting in him being stretchered from the ground.

There was nothing in it
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby Big Phil » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:28 am

Voice wrote:
Big Phil wrote:
RESERVES:

NORWOOD - 2.3 5.7 9.8 12.9 = 62

WEST - 1.3 2.3 6.4 6.9 = 45


LEAGUE:

NORWOOD - 3.3 7.6 11.10 16.12 = 115

WEST - 2.2 4.4 6.5 6.6 = 45




Sorry to be picky BP but 16.12 is 108, 6.6 is 42
12.9 is 81 leaving the only one thats right as West reserves score.
Few bevvies tonight perhaps?


Yes, thankyou Voice, I have changed it now, I stuffed it up any way with ther final score it was different to what I had.

I think the scoreboard attendant was struggling a bit at times tonight but my excuse is that I'm falling asleep at my laptop and are running on 4 hours sleep after a long day at work and going straight to the footy from there.

All fixed now, off to bed though now

cheers...

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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby Big Phil » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:30 am

Thiele wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Things also heated up later in the game when Norwood defender Nick Jackman was reported by umpire Richard Williams for a pretty big bump on his young West Adelaide opponent resulting in him being stretchered from the ground.

There was nothing in it


Yeah, I think it looked worse than what it was because the lad was stretchered off. I actually spoke to Nick after the game and he said he had never been reported before and it was just a bump that went wrong because he was a bit bigger than the other guy.

Should get off for sure, nothing in it like I say. Is the Westies lad alright Thiele ?
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby Thiele » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:34 am

Big Phil wrote:
Thiele wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Things also heated up later in the game when Norwood defender Nick Jackman was reported by umpire Richard Williams for a pretty big bump on his young West Adelaide opponent resulting in him being stretchered from the ground.

There was nothing in it


Yeah, I think it looked worse than what it was because the lad was stretchered off. I actually spoke to Nick after the game and he said he had never been reported before and it was just a bump that went wrong because he was a bit bigger than the other guy.

Should get off for sure, nothing in it like I say. Is the Westies lad alright Thiele ?

I dont know, i will tryand ask some people from the club during the week
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby Voice » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:40 am

No probs BP,anytime mate! I had a day off today so i'm feeling mighty fresh for half past midnight. Thanks for the report by the way. Seems like another bad year for the Bloods coming up. Know how they feel. I was there through the nineties watching how fantastic Sturt was :roll: . I feel for the lads.
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby LBT » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:56 am

Another standing ovation this week? ;)
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby JAS » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:12 am

Big Phil wrote:
Thiele wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Things also heated up later in the game when Norwood defender Nick Jackman was reported by umpire Richard Williams for a pretty big bump on his young West Adelaide opponent resulting in him being stretchered from the ground.

There was nothing in it


Yeah, I think it looked worse than what it was because the lad was stretchered off. I actually spoke to Nick after the game and he said he had never been reported before and it was just a bump that went wrong because he was a bit bigger than the other guy.

Should get off for sure, nothing in it like I say. Is the Westies lad alright Thiele ?


Point is that's what you didn't say.

Nor did your original post say "I think it looked worse than what it was" or "it was just a bump that went wrong because he was a bit bigger than the other guy"

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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby topsywaldron » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:41 am

LBT wrote:Another standing ovation this week? ;)


Champagne was flowing, grown men were weeping, hats were being tossed in the air as Norwood walked off the oval. We're keeping a lid on it this year at the Parade.
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby redandblack » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:45 am

Sorry to the reasonable Norwood fans, as opposed to those rubbishing opponents, but making predictions based on a team playing its first trial match with a team missing a swag of its better players is getting ahead of yourselves just a little.
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby fester69 » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:27 am

redandblack wrote:Sorry to the reasonable Norwood fans, as opposed to those rubbishing opponents, but making predictions based on a team playing its first trial match with a team missing a swag of its better players is getting ahead of yourselves just a little.



Trust me, and I always wear my heart on my sleeve, no-one at Norwood is getting ahead of ourselves, we just have great expectations and can see that this group of players do as well.
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby fester69 » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:30 am

LBT wrote:Another standing ovation this week? ;)



I'll bite here, after standing next to the player's race for every game played at Norwood in the last 36 seasons, a few kids patting the players on the back while waiting to get on the hallowed turf for a kick, parents talking to sons and 15 or so supporters clapping their lads off is hardly a standing ovation, unlike the Bay supporters behind the player's race who were riding every contest like it was a league game!

You guys are getting a bit arrogant after 1 good season were you lost yet another Grand Final....... trying to think of the last time we did that after being minor Premier and can't recall!
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby dash61 » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:37 am

NFC wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:
NFC wrote:We saw the 2009 wooden spooners out there tonight. I’ll expand later but West will be lucky to win 3-4 games this year. Norwood were okay, good at times but patchy at others, but are miles above West who are rubbish.


Sorry for all of the reasonable West fans on here but I have to agree with this.

A gameplan that consistently sees players look up on the wing to see no one ahead of them is a self perpetuating folly which ends in six goals being kicked on a perfect night for football.

It is also really, really ugly and boring.

For the future of the game - Collins out.

Well said. Do they actually have a game plan?

Their skill level is terrible and I don't think I've ever seen a team go backwards as much as they do. They seriously go back just as much as they go forward. They NEVER have any options up forward in fact their best forward is used as a linkman across back flank/midfield. They are such a small side too with few big bodies. Willits is a hack, sorry, had to throw that in there. They are just so indecisive. They are where Norwood were at 3-4 years ago.


Well from what I saw last night, West Adelaide may have a game plan but do not have the skills to execute any sort of game plan, there could be possible forwards in the side but to be confiedent to be that target would be scary. You could be committing harri-carri as the ball could be delivered so poorly leaving you open for disaster.

But as Red&black said we had a lot missing, these include Caruso, Birss, Hassan, Greg Rowe, Piasente, J Rowe Rookies Chris Schmidt, Martin, Jess laurie and on any given week players that will filter back include Hartlett, Dangerfield, Moran, Tippett, Pettigrew, Robbie Gray, & Davenport. Once the AFL starts and we get topped up with AFL players West may have a VERY competitive side. We like a drug addict will be dependant, in our case on our AFL players.

Norwood had a good hit out last week so we went in a lot rustier than they did.

Having said that, Norwood had a lot of talent out and will be one of the TOP 3 sides.
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Re: Norwood vs West at Coopers Trial on Friday

Postby topsywaldron » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:44 am

redandblack wrote:as opposed to those rubbishing opponents


Not me. Rubbishing the crap Collins is making them play though? Guilty.

Can you tell me you actually enjoy the style of football West are playing at the moment?
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