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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby NO-MERCY » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:29 pm

Big Phil wrote:Ease up on the ribbing of Macgowan...

Yes, you are entitled to an opinion, but put yourself in his shoes...

It's up to the individual as to what their goals are and in Rick's case, he has an ambition to be involved at the highest level...

To say he is piss weak, is piss weak in itself. Yes, you are entitled to be disappointed that your coach is possibly leaving but no need to carry on and say he walked because it got too hard. Look at the circumstances and be fair in your assessment. It's not like Rick has been a Sturt man all his life and has some deep seeded loyalty to consider.

Roy Laird has had similar offers but his loyalty is to the Central District Football Club, because the club is his life, so he turns the offers back. That, and the fact that he has no passion, interest or desire to coach in the AFL says it all as well. Roy will be coach of Centrals as long as he wants. In Rick's case, he has that desire to be involved in the AFL and now is his opportunity so it looks like he will take it.

You say Macgowan who and that he has done nothing so far, but go back through the history of coaches appointed and so many would fall into the same kettle of fish. Clarkson inherited a pretty good Centrals team in 2001 and took them to a flag, then runners up in 2002 before getting the Hawthorn job a year after being an assistant at Port Power.

Rick's coaching record and football brain is pretty good overall, yes he has been disappointing in league finals of late, but if the shoe fits wear it I say. Clearly, Al Clarkson has a nice pair of shiny new shoes in the size of Mr Macgowan's foot. Again, put yourself in Rick's shoes, would you take a pay rise to do a similar job that is in actual fact bettering yourself. I think I know what I'd do...

If it does come to fruition, good luck at the hawks Ricko, I'll be cheering the brown and gold next year a little more...



Good post Phil, for those knockers Rick made his intensions clear of his goals for coaching at the highest level from the outset of his first interview with the Sturt Football Club, Sturt were more than happy & delighted to get someone like Rick who is a total professional onboard, they made it clear they wouldn't stand in his way if that opportunity arrose, i heard it was a tough decision for him to make & leave the Blues as he's been responsible for there rise up the ladder & knows that success aint to far away, his relationship with the players was outstanding, As tough as it is to make a decision like that & leave a club doesn't make him a failure, it proved his educated knowledge of the game was above alot of our coaches in our competition which warranted & deserved in Clarksons mind a shot at the big time.
These opportunity's don't come everyday & Rick knows that so he's done the right thing.
Well done to you Rick best of luck next year.
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby Barto » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:37 pm

G wrote:I will say that the week after the Prelim he was a bit disillusioned with the Sturt players performance. :roll:


He wasn't the only one. I know your statement is true, but it's to be expected of someone who puts a lot of work in to see it pan out the way it did at the end of the season.

I doubt the prelim had much of a bearing on his decision though.
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby bayman » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:10 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:
bayman wrote:is this fact or a rumour you've heard NM ?


Very good rumour bayman.



too good NM, more than a rumour though :wink:
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby gadj1976 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:27 pm

Best of luck to Rick and his future prospects. It's disappointing but a fact of life these days. For most, the SANFL is a launching pad for bigger and better things. And good on them if the SANFL becomes a proving ground for AFL assistants and head coaches.

Good luck Rick and thanks for your efforts.
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby bullydog » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:40 pm

good luck to rick but you have to wonder if he has got ahead of himself. I compare him to neil craig at the crows, looks like a million bucks in april but falls well short when it counts. I think his ego maybe has got the better of him and would have been better served trying to make amends for sturts woefull finish to the season. I hope he goes well at the hawks but it is very hard to judge someone who plays second fiddle to the senior coach.
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby gadj1976 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:41 pm

bullydog wrote:good luck to rick but you have to wonder if he has got ahead of himself. I compare him to neil craig at the crows, looks like a million bucks in april but falls well short when it counts. I think his ego maybe has got the better of him and would have been better served trying to make amends for sturts woefull finish to the season. I hope he goes well at the hawks but it is very hard to judge someone who plays second fiddle to the senior coach.


he's going to the right place to learn about success in September.
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby Whitelinefever » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:05 pm

A person reading this thread would be excused for thinking that McGowan was leaving to replace Dimitrio as boss of the AFL.
Hes only going to be an ASSISTANT coach at Hawthorn for crying out loud.
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby Rotter » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:19 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
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SDK wrote:Good luck Rick....liked him as a player and even more as a coach.
To think we could have had him at Norwood but chose......
Do you know who to blame for that or at least had a large influence


You're going to say Dale Lewis I suppose?
No I wasn't actually. How could Dale be responsible for the club not looking at RM
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby Old but Smart Dog » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:35 pm

Well its look like former Centrals players are worth their weight in gold! :wink:
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby MagareyLegend » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:50 pm

With Macgowan's resignation Sturt now move up into equal 2nd position in SANFL coaching turnovers in the past 25 years only surpassed by, wouldn't you know it, GLENELG.
Sturt is indeed an unstable club.
Going back a little bit further, at one stage in the 14 years from 1982 they had EIGHT coaches. That's ridiculous.

The ladder is:

Glenelg 11 coaching changes
Sturt 10
South 10
West 10
Centrals 7
North 7
Norwood 7
Port 6
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby cd » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:49 am

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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby sturtpeter » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:09 am

Sorry but..since 1994 we have only had three appointed Coaches

1. Phil Carman

2. Brenton Phillips

3. Rick Macgowan.

Brodie was a care-taker only.

If that equates to instability I am shocked. :roll:
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby Tassie Blues » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:40 am

sturtpeter wrote:Sorry but..since 1994 we have only had three appointed Coaches

1. Phil Carman

2. Brenton Phillips

3. Rick Macgowan.

Brodie was a care-taker only.

If that equates to instability I am shocked. :roll:


i know it doesnt happen often but sturt/norwoodpeter has a good point.
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby TigerBoss » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:08 pm

I thought MacGowan spoke well on 5AA last night...gave a good account of himself, the decision and his reasons for leaving, and the gratitude he has for Sturt, Stuart Totham and the playing group.

Good luck to him...
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby therisingblues » Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:48 pm

MagareyLegend wrote:With Macgowan's resignation Sturt now move up into equal 2nd position in SANFL coaching turnovers in the past 25 years only surpassed by, wouldn't you know it, GLENELG.
Sturt is indeed an unstable club.
Going back a little bit further, at one stage in the 14 years from 1982 they had EIGHT coaches. That's ridiculous.

The ladder is:

Glenelg 11 coaching changes
Sturt 10
South 10
West 10
Centrals 7
North 7
Norwood 7
Port 6


Dude, your credibility has taken a huge battering with this post. :roll:
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby TigerBoss » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:00 pm

therisingblues wrote:
MagareyLegend wrote:With Macgowan's resignation Sturt now move up into equal 2nd position in SANFL coaching turnovers in the past 25 years only surpassed by, wouldn't you know it, GLENELG.
Sturt is indeed an unstable club.
Going back a little bit further, at one stage in the 14 years from 1982 they had EIGHT coaches. That's ridiculous.

The ladder is:

Glenelg 11 coaching changes
Sturt 10
South 10
West 10
Centrals 7
North 7
Norwood 7
Port 6


Dude, your credibility has taken a huge battering with this post. :roll:


Is that a sequel to Dude, Where's My Car?

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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby sturtpeter » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:04 pm

Yes! :wink:
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby am Bays » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:36 pm

therisingblues wrote:
MagareyLegend wrote:With Macgowan's resignation Sturt now move up into equal 2nd position in SANFL coaching turnovers in the past 25 years only surpassed by, wouldn't you know it, GLENELG.
Sturt is indeed an unstable club.
Going back a little bit further, at one stage in the 14 years from 1982 they had EIGHT coaches. That's ridiculous.

The ladder is:

Glenelg 11 coaching changes
Sturt 10
South 10
West 10
Centrals 7
North 7
Norwood 7
Port 6


Dude, your credibility has taken a huge battering with this post. :roll:


How? he has articuated a fact in the last 25 years Sturt have had 10 coaches to be the equal 2nd most unstable club. A coach every 2.5 years. Yes I know we are worse one every 2.1 years.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby TigerBoss » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:41 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
therisingblues wrote:
MagareyLegend wrote:With Macgowan's resignation Sturt now move up into equal 2nd position in SANFL coaching turnovers in the past 25 years only surpassed by, wouldn't you know it, GLENELG.
Sturt is indeed an unstable club.
Going back a little bit further, at one stage in the 14 years from 1982 they had EIGHT coaches. That's ridiculous.

The ladder is:

Glenelg 11 coaching changes
Sturt 10
South 10
West 10
Centrals 7
North 7
Norwood 7
Port 6


Dude, your credibility has taken a huge battering with this post. :roll:


How? he has articuated a fact in the last 25 years Sturt have had 10 coaches to be the equal 2nd most unstable club. A coach every 2.5 years. Yes I know we are worse one every 2.1 years.


Too easy Tas...

Is articuated like articulated?

Me thinks your spelling is unstable. :lol:
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Re: McGowan to assist Clarkson at Hawthorn.

Postby am Bays » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:43 pm

TigerBoss wrote:Too easy Tas...

Is articuated like articulated?

Me thinks your spelling is unstable. :lol:


My keyboard is cixelsyd....
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