100m Football Park Upgrade

[pipers]

Eh?

Panther fans criticising the Rann government for throwing money at a shitty football venue?

OH, THE IRONING!

[pipers]

Excuse me how teh F*** can it be the biggest sporting event in the world when the Olympics includes teh equiavlent of teh FIFA U/23 world championship - similar Qualifying as World Cup. Whree as the Soccer World Cup excludes half the worlds population, is limited to ~700 particpants (the Finals) and is merely one Sport.

**** in management participation and size teh Olympics dwarfs the Soccer World Cup. Just some SBS bias to try and justify are carp sport to teh rest of Australia.

Yes they might say its big in terms of 30 days of action comapred to 16. But in size of logistics, number of sports participants and people world wide who participate in the sports included in the Olympics (i.e who can potentially qualify for them) the Olympics dwarfs the Soccer World Cup.

The Olympics are just a bunch of second rate sports and the IOC needs football more than FIFA needs to be at the Olympics. That's why it is restricted to U/23s, because FIFA did not want the gloss of the World Cup to be watered down with an open tournament at the Olympics in between.

And buy a budget TM... Football (soccer) has easily the most participants of any sport on the planet. Certainly a shiteload more than play rhythm gynastics, clay pigeon shooting, trampolining and mountain bike riding.

Oh, and FIFA has more member nations than the IOC I believe so your point about potential involvement is also rubbish...

[pipers]

World Cup matches, if they come to Australia at all, will be in Melbourne or Sydney, nowhere else.

Suncorp will hold a few...

FIFA now require 12 venues before you even get considered...

A joint AUS/CHINA bid is the most likely to suceed. 4 groups in each country (across approx 6 venues in each nation). Opening game in Beijing, Final in Sydney.

Main venues in Aus would be MCG, Docklands, Homebush & Suncorp - and they would also throw some of the rubbish games at SFS, Perth (dunno where?) and Adelaide (maybe). We would perhaps get Saudi vs Norway or something dull like that...

[pipers]

[quote="1980 Tassie Medalist"]
Despite the absence of urinals in soccer changerooms, last time I watched the Soccer World Cup finals there was an absence of women participants....

Yes, but who actually watches women's sport anyway?

I watch the Matildas and that's it. And that's just beacuse a couple of them would go alright...

[am Bays]

And buy a budget TM... Football (soccer) has easily the most participants of any sport on the planet. Certainly a shiteload more than play rhythm gynastics, clay pigeon shooting, trampolining and mountain bike riding.

Oh, and FIFA has more member nations than the IOC I believe so your point about potential involvement is also rubbish...

err Okay

If the participants of Soccer (admitedly to U/23) AND the participants of other woldwide popular sports such as Volleyball, Basketball, athletics, Handball, swimming and the other minor sports you listed are qualifying and participating for the Olympics doesn't it make it the biggest event oin teh world especiall as those humans with two X chromosomes are also participating and depending on skill qualifying for De Coubertin's quadrennial little gathering?

Mate the Olympics dwarfs the World Cup both in potential partipants, people who actually participate to qualify for it, the logistics of the event and the cumulative TV audience if you take into consideration all the pre-Olympic Qualifying (As what happens in the Soccer World Cup)

of course FIFA has more recognised member nations when all the home countries of the UK are recognised individually by FIFA and UEFA where it is the UK as a single entity for the Olympics not to mention the tiny European principalities and states (San Marino, Lichtenstein, Andorra etc etc that FIFA articifically recognises to give the appearance of a bigger event...

Ignoramus...

[Dirko]

when all the home countries of the UK are recognised individually by FIFA and UEFA where it is the UK as a single entity for the Olympics

That's only due to them being shite at the Olympics, and the IOC are too lazy to get off there arse and recognise them individually ! Why are they recognised individually at the Comm games though, where they are shite also?

[am Bays]

when all the home countries of the UK are recognised individually by FIFA and UEFA where it is the UK as a single entity for the Olympics

That's only due to them being shite at the Olympics, and the IOC are too lazy to get off there arse and recognise them individually ! Why are they recognised individually at the Comm games though, where they are shite also?

Stop stealing my arguments I was going to use that in my next comment to equate the Soccer World Cup to the Commonwealth Games, if fatal asked that question, Grrr.

Hmm the United nations recognises the UK or England, Scotland, Northern ireland and wales???

And yeah Wales and Northern Ireland are soccer superpowers???

[Dirko]

And yeah Wales and Northern Ireland are soccer superpowers???

Throw England in that equation too

[am Bays]

And yeah Wales and Northern Ireland are soccer superpowers???

Throw England in that equation too

Well I weas using apparances at the World Cup, IIRC Nthn Ireland have only made it once (1982) and Wales have never made it - probably because all their boyos are too busy playing Rugby.

I'm not some ignoramus when it comes to Soccer i've followed it for over 30 years so I know its ins and outs and history reasonably well. To calaimt eh World Cup of Soccer is bigger than teh Olympics is based on narrow criteria based on using a 30 day epoch for its finals and compared to 15. Still the total live playing action for the World Cup finals is less than the total live playing time for the Olympics acorss its 26 sports.

[evans01]

And buy a budget TM... Football (soccer) has easily the most participants of any sport on the planet. Certainly a shiteload more than play rhythm gynastics, clay pigeon shooting, trampolining and mountain bike riding.

Oh, and FIFA has more member nations than the IOC I believe so your point about potential involvement is also rubbish...

err Okay

If the participants of Soccer (admitedly to U/23) AND the participants of other woldwide popular sports such as Volleyball, Basketball, athletics, Handball, swimming and the other minor sports you listed are qualifying and participating for the Olympics doesn't it make it the biggest event oin teh world especiall as those humans with two X chromosomes are also participating and depending on skill qualifying for De Coubertin's quadrennial little gathering?

Mate the Olympics dwarfs the World Cup both in potential partipants, people who actually participate to qualify for it, the logistics of the event and the cumulative TV audience if you take into consideration all the pre-Olympic Qualifying (As what happens in the Soccer World Cup)

of course FIFA has more recognised member nations when all the home countries of the UK are recognised individually by FIFA and UEFA where it is the UK as a single entity for the Olympics not to mention the tiny European principalities and states (San Marino, Lichtenstein, Andorra etc etc that FIFA articifically recognises to give the appearance of a bigger event...

Ignoramus...

TM...wrong the World cup is by far the biggest sporting event in the world in crowd numbers, revenue and television audience..........
Olympics is a very poor second.............

[pipers]

Mate the Olympics dwarfs the World Cup both in potential partipants, people who actually participate to qualify for it, the logistics of the event and the cumulative TV audience if you take into consideration all the pre-Olympic Qualifying (As what happens in the Soccer World Cup)

You are correct apart from the culmulative TV audience bit... I will lay you a $1,000 bet that more people watched the WCQ between Equatorial Gunea and CAR than watched Eddie the Eel qualify in his muddy puddle...

of course FIFA has more recognised member nations when all the home countries of the UK are recognised individually by FIFA and UEFA where it is the UK as a single entity for the Olympics not to mention the tiny European principalities and states (San Marino, Lichtenstein, Andorra etc etc that FIFA articifically recognises to give the appearance of a bigger event...

So FIFA is more inclusive than the IOC!

btw - San Marino, Liechtenstein, Andorra etc. are recognised nation-states, so the only reason you don't see them at the Olympics is because we are force-fed Gold, Gold, Gold for Australia at every opportunity. Or, if no Aussies are currently doing the hammer throw or some other pointless pursuit we get the TV feed straight from NBC and we just get to watch the yanks.

At least at the WC if I want to watch Costa Rica vs Ecuador, I can!

Ignoramus...

My thoughts exactly.

I know I have!

[am Bays]

TM...wrong the World cup is by far the biggest sporting event in the world in crowd numbers, revenue and television audience..........
Olympics is a very poor second.............

I'd love to see the evidence at least so I can shut up!!!

[pipers]

Stop stealing my arguments I was going to use that in my next comment to equate the Soccer World Cup to the Commonwealth Games, if fatal asked that question, Grrr.

Don't get me started on the Commonwelath Games. I'd rather light my own farts than watch that shite. We should be giving those countries foreign aid, not thrashing them in lawn bowls...

Hmm the United nations recognises the UK or England, Scotland, Northern ireland and wales???

No, and nor does it recognise Nagorno-Karabakh. Doesn't mean they are right.

And yeah Wales and Northern Ireland are soccer superpowers???

[/quote]

They have their moments, and they do produce their superstars...
George Best.
Ryan Giggs.

Ignoramus.

[pipers]

the total live playing action for the World Cup finals is less than the total live playing time for the Olympics acorss its 26 sports.

Yes, undoubtedly.

But is ANY of it actually worth watching?

I know I won't be watching very much of it.

Will try and watch the football (if it gets aired). Probably watch the 100m Final too. Maybe some basketball or hockey...
That's about it.

Whereas, I've watched every game of the past 4 world cups and most of Italia '90

[am Bays]

Don't get me started on the Commonwelath Games. I'd rather light my own farts than watch that shite. We should be giving those countries foreign aid, not thrashing them in lawn bowls...

Hooray, another Gold medal for Australia if I can get the CGA to recognise it as an event....

[pipers]

IIRC Nthn Ireland have only made it once (1982) and Wales have never made it

Ignoramus.

[Rotter]

We have a magnificent site on King William Street that if for no other reason than natural attrition will need to be re-worked sooner rather than later. Remove people like Leigh Wicker, old Max Basheer and the representatives of Adelaide's old money at the SACA from the negotiating table because they still hold grudges from the early 70's before Footy Park was built, yes believe it or not there are still some of the antagonists alive and occupying seat on the relative boards and put something in place like the Sydney Cricket and Football Ground trust to administer it and move forward. Sell the land off at Hindmarsh and West Lakes to help pay for it and then.............................
Create a sporting hub with a combined stadium for the soccerites and if the bum sniffers from the NRL have another go at this market, redevelop Memorial Drive for the tennis and build a magnificent stadium on the Adelaide Oval site for Football and Cricket.
In time we might create a new restaurant and entertainment precint on the north side of the Torrens.

It's really not that bloody hard and who knows we might even look like we belong in the 21st century.

[am Bays]

IIRC Nthn Ireland have only made it once (1982) and Wales have never made it

Ignoramus.

Well....and the first I does stand for "If", so I'm happy to be corrected.

[pipers]

Don't get me started on the Commonwelath Games. I'd rather light my own farts than watch that shite. We should be giving those countries foreign aid, not thrashing them in lawn bowls...

Hooray, another Gold medal for Australia if I can get the CGA to recognise it as an event....

What? Fart-lighting?

Seriously, if people can get excited about 8 splashes going up and down a pool for quarter of an hour when the eventual winner was basically known before they even jumped in, then the theatrics provided by the ignition of methane expelled from a sphincter would have them ripping their underpants off in a frenzy.

[am Bays]

We have a magnificent site on King William Street that if for no other reason than natural attrition will need to be re-worked sooner rather than later. Remove people like Leigh Wicker, old Max Basheer and the representatives of Adelaide's old money at the SACA from the negotiating table because they still hold grudges from the early 70's before Footy Park was built, yes believe it or not there are still some of the antagonists alive and occupying seat on the relative boards and put something in place like the Sydney Cricket and Football Ground trust to administer it and move forward. Sell the land off at Hindmarsh and West Lakes to help pay for it and then.............................
Create a sporting hub with a combined stadium for the soccerites and if the bum sniffers from the NRL have another go at this market, redevelop Memorial Drive for the tennis and build a magnificent stadium on the Adelaide Oval site for Football and Cricket.
In time we might create a new restaurant and entertainment precint on the north side of the Torrens.

It's really not that bloody hard and who knows we might even look like we belong in the 21st century.

P!ss off, as a SACA member I like Adelaide Oval just as it is - allowing for the planned upgrade which essentially maintains its character. Looking forward to one day potentially standing for the SACA board or certainly voting for those people who do stand for the SACA committee to maintain the ground as an oval not a stadium.

My opinion and I respect others who differ from it but I like Adelaide Oval the way it is and I like Footy Park. I wish i could go to footy PArk more often but they don't play SANFL matches there. SANFL much more enjoyable for me than AFL.