Glenelg v Central Rd 6 2008 Review

[Dutchy]

Add Chris Gowans, Paul Thomas and Ian Callinan to that side and it becomes a 5-10 goal better side.

5 to 10 goal better side?

Guess the dogs have the flag wrapped up then when they come back

Dutchy, to talk flags is foolish at this stage of the season. However, take three leaders of that calibre out of any side and I would think it would make a pretty big difference to them. How would the Glenelg team fare if you took out Backwell, McConnell and Allen? Would it make a five goal difference to the team?

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Brilliantly said Bulldogproud,

By no means would any team be talking premierships at this stage, it would be ludicrious to do so. The competition seems as tight as it has been for quite a few years now and i think it's due to the fact that other teams are slowly reaching higher standards as well as the Dogs levelling out just slightly. I think your point Dutchy is a tadd of the mark, because if on song and at his best, Ian Callinan can be a match winner with his own boot and is more than capable of kicking between 5 and 7 goals regularly despite beong quiet (and injured) in recent weeks. We certainly missed Nutta out there today but if you throw in Chris Gowans who can kick 3,4 or 5 himslef and Thommo kicking the odd goal here and there playing on ball, before you know it Dutchy, you have those 5 - 10 goals BulldogProud was talking about. You see what I'm saying mate...

Anyway, I better get stuck into typing up my match reports now, I guess I will be back on here later tonight with my final edits...

Big Phil...

If your 3 missing players (amazingly I thought it was 21 v 21 today) give you 5-10 goals you will win the flag.....thats all Im saying...

Bit of pressure on Callinan there, 5-7 goals per game for the rest of the season, will be the first to congratulate your prediction BP if it happens......

[Dirko]

Oh, also add the fact that we have only had the eighth or ninth pick in the SANFL mini draft over the past eight years. A number of times that meant we gained no player at all from the Power and Crows recruits.
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Actually IMO I don't believe that is a huge factor...

Glenelg didn't have any Crows/Power listed blokes for them today. Better off a club supporting their own talent, than that of an AFL club.

[Rushby Hinds]

Oh, also add the fact that we have only had the eighth or ninth pick in the SANFL mini draft over the past eight years. A number of times that meant we gained no player at all from the Power and Crows recruits.
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Weakest excuse. Ever.

the Bays had NO Crows or Power listed players today.

And where were all the Dogs supporters today?


Would have been at least 80% Bays fans.


Bandwaggoners,mostly

[Dutchy]

Oh, also add the fact that we have only had the eighth or ninth pick in the SANFL mini draft over the past eight years. A number of times that meant we gained no player at all from the Power and Crows recruits.
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Yeah Griffen is a hack

Very interesting that Dog fans are making excuses, havent seen much of that in this decade....

[bulldogproud]

Dutchy, I was not the one who said that Callinan would kick seven by the way.
So you would be happy to play every game for the rest of the year with no Backwell, Allen, Cranston or Grima?
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[bulldogproud]

I think that you guys miss my point re the AWFuL draft picks. They are extra players in your squad who are not covered by your salary cap. By missing out on selections in the mini draft, Central have less money in their salary cap with which to recruit and pay players.
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[am Bays]

I think that you guys miss my point re the AWFuL draft picks. They are extra players in your squad who are not covered by your salary cap. By missing out on selections in the mini draft, Central have less money in their salary cap with which to recruit and pay players.
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IIRC AFL listed players who play league footy incur a $350 per game allocation against the salary cap. I.e an AFL listed player plays 20 games its $7000 against the salary cap. So they are counted against your salary cap.

Happy to be told otherwise if I am incorrect. The source was something I heard a few years ago.

[Rushby Hinds]

I think that you guys miss my point re the AWFuL draft picks. They are extra players in your squad who are not covered by your salary cap. By missing out on selections in the mini draft, Central have less money in their salary cap with which to recruit and pay players.
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?????

The mini draft is one of the last things that happens, most recruits are well signed by then.

PS Spelly, do you have records for big come backs in reserves? Today's magoos was possibly the biggest come back i've personally witnessed in my life.

Hooray for all 4 Bays teams not losing.

Hooray for a Dogs player missing an absolute sitter (apparently) to win the 19's game.

[Dutchy]

Dutchy, I was not the one who said that Callinan would kick seven by the way.
So you would be happy to play every game for the rest of the year with no Backwell, Allen, Cranston or Grima?
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BP = Big Phil also (who I quoted)

Well we did beat the Eagles without Mouse and Grima (the 2 best players out of the 4 you quoted) Try again

[bulldogproud]

Rushby, the timing of the mini draft does not change the fact that some squads are boosted by having players in their list that have been gained through the mini draft. If a team has gained six players through prior seasons drafts (by continually finishing down the bottom) and another side has had zero (from continually finishing at the top), then that is an additional six players who the first-named SANFL team have in their squad who are not covered by the salary cap their SANFL club is subject to.
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[bulldogproud]

Dutchy, I was not the one who said that Callinan would kick seven by the way.
So you would be happy to play every game for the rest of the year with no Backwell, Allen, Cranston or Grima?
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BP = Big Phil also (who I quoted)

Well we did beat the Eagles without Mouse and Grima (the 2 best players out of the 4 you quoted) Try again

Yes, an Eagles team with no Passador, Ciccolella, Colville, Fiacchi, Klun. Rimington, Wright etc if I remember right.

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[smac]

BDP, stop it now please!

[bulldogproud]

Anyway, congrats to Glenelg on the win today. Injuries and suspensions happen and you need to play games without these players. All I have been saying is that we are a much better team with Chris Gowans, Paul Thomas, Ian Callinan and Matthew Westhoff. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see this!
However, really, if Glenelg had not won today then I wonder when they ever would have beaten Central. I think most of us would have expected Glenelg to have won by a lot more than that. Full credit to Central for getting so close.
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[am Bays]

Dutchy, Rushby we've been extremely fortunate to play sides with out their best players.....it has nothing to do with the brand of footy we're playing or the work ethic of our boys....

We're just there to make up the numbers other teams have nothing to fear from us.....

[Dirko]

Rushby, the timing of the mini draft does not change the fact that some squads are boosted by having players in their list that have been gained through the mini draft. If a team has gained six players through prior seasons drafts (by continually finishing down the bottom) and another side has had zero (from continually finishing at the top), then that is an additional six players who the first-named SANFL team have in their squad who are not covered by the salary cap their SANFL club is subject to.
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What is the MAXIMUM squad numbers for an SANFL club ? Wouldn't the AFL listed blokes be above and beyond the official squad numbers ?

And since when has Central worried about a salary cap....

[Dutchy]

yeah sounds fair Tassie, any chance of an SANFL medical team getting their full list on the park so we can get beaten by 10 goals?

seeing BP thinks arent the real thing, this one is bookmarked for later in the season...

[smac]

Dutchy, Rushby we've been extremely fortunate to play sides with out their best players.....it has nothing to do with the brand of footy we're playing or the work ethic of our boys....

We're just there to make up the numbers other teams have nothing to fear from us.....

Way to jump over the top by "wedgie-ing" his comments... I think you know exactly where he was coming from.

There are numerous posts crediting the good play of the bays.

[Big Phil]

Stampy, you mustn't have seen the even cheaper shot Bodey had at James thirty seconds before. James simply retaliated.
Also please note that the Eagles had no less than 7 first choice players out when they played Glenelg. The return of most of these players has seen the Eagles improve their form so much that they easily discounted for Sturt yesterday.
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crap mate, poor james is alway realiating, the guy is king of the cheap shot, i dont expedct you to agree with me thats fine and whether the eags had 7 out i really dont give a toss either, we were abysmal in r1 but have been terrific ever since. winners are grinners and the losers can please themselves.

Winners can be idiots sometimes as well stampy and BTW I'm not quite sure what realiating means !!?? (SARCASM !!)

Yeah, you're right about James, in fact, both Gowans boys are antagonistic pains in the arses no doubt, but they only ever give us much as they get. Well admittedly they probably do give a tad more than what they get, but in general, it's within the letter of the law (I know, all barring last years GF North fans) and if it's not the umps crack down on it and pay a free or 25m penalty accordingly. You can't tell me you wouldn't have them in your team any day of the week as most supporters of other clubs do agree about their annoying ways but are quick to say they would have their skill, ability and a half dozen premiership medallions, in their side for certain...

Your boys played well today for just over 3 quarters and had a deserving hard fought victory at home. But now you are just making a fool of yourself carrying on about a petty little push and shove by two blokes that are actually good mates off the field. Give it a break mate FFS and just get on with enjoying the win, then look forward to another big clash next week against your old nemesis North Adelaide in Rivalry Round.

Big Phil...

[am Bays]

We're just there to make up the numbers other teams have nothing to fear from us.....

Way to jump over the top by "wedgie-ing" his comments... I think you know exactly where he was coming from.

There are numerous posts crediting the good play of the bays.[/quote]


MAte I'm more than happy for some people to think that we've been fortunate to win because of who hasn't been playing for teh opposition...

[bulldogproud]

Guys, be a bit easy, please, and put things in perspective. I think you will find that I am the only person in the SANFL Media Guide who predicted that Glenelg would play in the Grand Final this year (and that it would be against North). It is from that context that I believed that Glenelg would have won by more today. Yes, you did well, there is no doubt. However, I am one who knows how good Glenelg is. I just think they can play even better than they did today.
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