2007 Ins and Outs

[westcoastpanther]

In the cricket ask Daniel Harris how thrilled he is having Matthew Elliott recruited to SA

This goes back to my point Mal, why should he be the next opener just because he was next in line. Not how it works, he needs to work a little harder and prove to the selectors he can bat better than M Elliot. The harder he works, the better he gets and the better the depth of SA cricket gets. You don't get a gig just because you've been there longer.....

[mal]

North lost 6...... nice try Wedgie
I have compiled a list of ins and outs for 2005-2006
Please correct me if I am wrong or have missed players on my listings


INS

HOWARD
OHARA
ALLEWAY
KOOPS
WALKER
WEATHERLY
COX
SCHUBERT
RYSWYK


OUTS

GROCKE
STAPLES
S EBERT
GEORGE
MUMFORD
COOK
JEFFRIES
TOIA
REDDEN
ROE
GILHAM
MCENTEE
OAKLEY
HUESKES
GUM
WISE

I will (and have) correct you mate, AFL players aren't a part of the discussion as we're talking about recruiting and these come and go, and you missed out on Wise, so you're right 6 was wrong, it was in fact 7. Shannon Motlop was also on our list for 2005 but I wont include him (which would have made it due to the unusual and early way we lost him.
next...

Thanks for correcting me on the listings,
but no answer on whether my ratings of being 3 players better off or not.

[mal]

In the cricket ask Daniel Harris how thrilled he is having Matthew Elliott recruited to SA

This goes back to my point Mal, why should he be the next opener just because he was next in line. Not how it works, he needs to work a little harder and prove to the selectors he can bat better than M Elliot. The harder he works, the better he gets and the better the depth of SA cricket gets. You don't get a gig just because you've been there longer.....

At the risk of repeating myself, the point is not whether Harris is better than Elliott or
needs to work harder etc., its how Harris interprets the recruiting of Elliott.
Harris might try harder agree
Harris/Elliott together adds depth agree
And possibly he may get better as he trys harder agree

BUT Harris and the next kid behind him may not be thrilled.
Also the kid made 50 in his game in Sydney in the pura cup game[and might
be peeved off thru a lack of opportunites at this point in time]

[Wedgie]

Thanks for correcting me on the listings,
but no answer on whether my ratings of being 3 players better off or not.

Your welcome.

And I actually addressed the issue of if we were better off or worse off earlier in the topic.
I initially said we were 4 league players worse off but that should been 5 as I forgot about Danny Wise.

In regard to 2006/2007 I'll have to wait until the 2 AFL drafts at the very least before making an assessment, as you can see from the lists last year it would be ridiculous and a waste of time to speculate at this time of year.

Also in regard to our AFL players that MAY come back I don't think Sporn, Davis or Stribling set their respetive state leagues on fire so similar to Ben Walton (who came back from the AFL to Central before heading to North) there's no reason a junior would be denied a spot because of any of them. Plus you'd want to give the juniors the right impression in that we'd look after them when they come back from the AFL otherwise you'd lose them to other clubs like some SANFL clubs have happened.

[mal]

Thanks for correcting me on the listings,
but no answer on whether my ratings of being 3 players better off or not.

Your welcome.

And I actually addressed the issue of if we were better off or worse off earlier in the topic.
I initially said we were 4 league players worse off but that should been 5 as I forgot about Danny Wise.

In regard to 2006/2007 I'll have to wait until the 2 AFL drafts at the very least before making an assessment, as you can see from the lists last year it would be ridiculous and a waste of time to speculate at this time of year.

Also in regard to our AFL players that MAY come back I don't think Sporn, Davis or Stribling set their respetive state leagues on fire so similar to Ben Walton (who came back from the AFL to Central before heading to North) there's no reason a junior would be denied a spot because of any of them. Plus you'd want to give the juniors the right impression in that we'd look after them when they come back from the AFL otherwise you'd lose them to other clubs like some SANFL clubs have happened.

OK next question was it harder for seconds players in the NA footy club
to make the league team in 2005 or 2006 when at full strength in your opinion Wedgie ?

My opinion is the 2006 team was harder to make.

[Wedgie]

OK next question was it harder for seconds players in the NA footy club
to make the league team in 2005 or 2006 when at full strength in your opinion Wedgie ?

My opinion is the 2006 team was harder to make.

Definately harder in 2005 than 2006 when at full strength IMHO.
I don't think Schubert, McIntyre, etc would have held down key positions in 2005.

[mal]

OK next question was it harder for seconds players in the NA footy club
to make the league team in 2005 or 2006 when at full strength in your opinion Wedgie ?

My opinion is the 2006 team was harder to make.

Definately harder in 2005 than 2006 when at full strength IMHO.
I don't think Schubert, McIntyre, etc would have held down key positions in 2005.

Yeah ok you might be right.
Lucky Hueskas retired and Jason Roe went to the AFL and the boys got thier opportunities.
I guess if Adam Morgan comes back......
But then again Stevie Koops has gone.....
As for Hazeldine......
now I am trolling, sorry.......

[BPBRB]

OK next question was it harder for seconds players in the NA footy club
to make the league team in 2005 or 2006 when at full strength in your opinion Wedgie ?

My opinion is the 2006 team was harder to make.

Definately harder in 2005 than 2006 when at full strength IMHO.
I don't think Schubert, McIntyre, etc would have held down key positions in 2005.

Which goes to show if you bide your time you get the chance. Schubert proved himself early on (trial games) and played all but 1 game in the Seniors and McIntyre got his chance via injuries but never lost his place even when we got back to near full strength. There are no guarantees that every big name recurit you get fires and keeps his place in the Seniors because of name or reputation although I think Koops played too many in the Seniors this year because of the "investment" made in him and should have played more two's to get form and fitness right. Wiggins from West is the perfect expample of a high profile ex-AFL player who struggles and has played more two's than seniors in recent times. You still have to earn your spot IMO despite who you are or where you come from except that isn't always the case with "some" players is it?.

[mal]

BP-WEDGE-PUNK-PETER F etc[Drebin included]
Love em or hate em the roosters are impacting these days.
As for me I like them.
Watching them these days is better than spending the day at the ZOO

[mighty_tiger_79]

MAL

why dont you tell the imcompetent management out at the parade how they should be recruiting and running the club, maybe then you will become a force again.

i think MAL should purchase a NORTH MELBOURNE membership

[mighty_tiger_79]

i meant NORTH ADELAIDE

[Wedgie]

i meant NORTH ADELAIDE

North Melbourne, Norht Adelaide, North Afghanstan, it doesn't matter, if mal purchased a membership for every club that was run better than his own he'd be a very poor man.

[topsywaldron]

Freudian slip mighty-tiger? I mean we all know North Melbourne 1975 = North Adelaide 2006.

[Wedgie]

Freudian slip mighty-tiger? I mean we all know North Melbourne 1975 = North Adelaide 2006.

Let's hope so mate, if we have a season coming up when we're the best side in Australia I'll be very happy!

[topsywaldron]

Let's hope so mate, if we have a season coming up when we're the best side in Australia I'll be very happy!

I wasn't aware that Norwood had the chance to disprove this statement by playing North (Melbourne) in a Champions of Australia match.

Must have missed that result.

[mal]

i meant NORTH ADELAIDE

North Melbourne, Norht Adelaide, North Afghanstan, it doesn't matter, if mal purchased a membership for every club that was run better than his own he'd be a very poor man.

Successes of football clubs fluctuate throughout history.
Norwood and North are at different spectres.
North supporters keep your chin up it will turn eventually
North 1991...Norwood 1997.

[RustyCage]

So far Port have lost Lokan, Alvey (although we didn't really have him...), Bullen, Baird, Evans, Davis, doubts over Carr, Wait, and Slattery. Might not see much of Maric. Morrison looks likely to leave too. No Eichner.

All in all, we're fcked. Especially if we were to lose J Clayton. Bottom 2 next year.

[redandblack]

West have announced new recruits . Jackson Barling has already been named, but they have added Dean Galea from Williamstown, Matthew Barber from Ainslie and Jeremy Rowe from Wagga.

[dash61]

As we were email by the club

ON WESTIES OFFICIAL SITE - PRESS RELEASE ON RECRUITS.

Jackson Barling is 20 years old from Williamstown Football Club in the VFL. He won the Fothergill-Round Medal in the VFL for the most promising young player in the competition in 2005. Jackson can play either centre half back / forward and has a fierce attack on the ball and is a strong team man.

Dean Galea is 20 years old also from Williamstown Football Club in the VFL . Dean is a strong marking mobile forward who can push up the ground. In 2006, Dean played 11 senior games for 19 goals in a team with 12 Collingwood players each week before injury finished his season early.

Matthew Barber is 20 years old from Ainslie Football Club in the ACTFL. Matthew is a very athletic 6 foot 4 key position player with plenty of courage and strong hands.

Jeremy Rowe is 22 years old originally from Wagga and has Captained/Coached Marrar in NSW for the last two years. He is a former captain of NSWACT Rams and has completed a preseason with the Sydney Swans. Jeremy is an exciting midfielder /forward with excellent speed.
Now a cynical question to all supporters
Have you ever seen a press release like this, possibly honest???
Wedgie
Age 29 187 cm 110 kg's
Played 43 and a half games for Wild Horse Plains until injury cut his career short, won the B grade most improved trophy in 2002 and should improve our numbers, because of salary cap problems any player with legs is accepted, the club wish him well for 2007,,,
These poor blokes have great expectations put on them before they even arrive

[RustyCage]

Brad Murray to join Magpies



Myrtleford captain Brad Murray will play for SANFL power Port Adelaide next season.

In another devastating blow for this year's Ovens and Murray grand finalists, Murray confirmed yesterday he would be putting his 72-match career at the McNamara Reserve on hold to take up a football development and marketing position with the Magpies.

Murray also seriously considered offers from Sturt and West Perth.

The Morris medallist's departure is a new setback for Myrtleford and comes only weeks after coach Travis Hodgson fell out with the club over a contractual dispute and joined North Albury.

Justin Carey (Redland Bombers), David Steer (Wangaratta), Shane Roche (Barnawartha) and Brad McPherson (Whorouly) have also left after playing in the club's 33-point grand final loss to Yarrawonga.

Murray, 24, said his decision to join Port Adelaide was career motivated.

"It's a terrific opportunity for me to stay in football administration and one I'm looking forward to getting into" he said.

"Travis and the Myrtleford board knew of my intentions last season and, although I have been in touch with Sturt and West Perth for a while, Port Adelaide Magpies only approached me 10 days ago."

"They have a fantastic history with 36 flags and have only missed the finals 11 times in 100 years, so obviously I want to be a part of that"

"Port flew over here last Friday and, although it's been a difficult decision to leave Myrtleford, I'm excited by what lies ahead."

While Murray said Myrtleford had been through difficult times since the departure of Hodgson, he is confident the Saints can turn their fortunes around.

Former Benalla, Albury and Corowa-Rutherglen star Jason MacFarlane has been linked to the coaching position over the past week.

"I'm not exactly sure what is happening on the coaching front, but there is a lot of good people at Myrtleford and the club will work through it" he said.

"I wish them all the best."

Outgoing Myrtleford president Bill O'Donohue refused to comment on Murray's departure when contacted by The Border Mail yesterday.

Murray returned from West Perth in 2005 and took out the Morris Medal as the Saints stormed into the grand final against Lavington.

His season was marred by a controversial clash with Wangaratta's Jake Bridges in the second semi-final where he was suspended before having the decision eventually overturned by a VCFL appeals board.