ANZAC Clash: Central V North Match Review

[PhilH]

FOR ROYAL CITY .... good Pick Up you are quite correct re Callinan, 26th game for Bulldogs, 1st time goalless

[Dirko]

FOR ROYAL CITY .... good Pick Up you are quite correct re Callinan, 26th game for Bulldogs, 1st time goalless

drop him

[Aerie]

Very disappointing crowd, especially as Centrals moved the game to Adelaide for a bigger crowd. IMO, the crowd would have been similar, if not more, at Hamra Homes Oval.

I'm not sure that it would have helped the crowd, the past few years the game has been mid week, a lot would have taken the oppotunity to get away for the long weekend this year. I was at the march from 9am and a lot of nuetral supporters commented that they would be going to the game after the march as it was right next door.
The biigest factor in the dissapointing crowd IMHO was the long weekend.

I think the poor crowd is due to every Tom, Dick and Harry club around SA now fixturing an ANZAC Day clash, as well as the increased popularity of the AFL game on tv at the same time. All roads once led to Adelaide Oval on ANZAC Day, but not anymore.

[CENTURION]

Yes, the game should have stayed at Elizabeth, a great time was had anyway. Great to catch up with Smac, Punky, Drebin, RTG,... and WHUFC, I do still luv ya'!

[CENTURION]

Agreed. Sorry to take things of track but those f*ckwits just really got to me.[/quote]

Glad they disgust you Rod.
As an ex- serviceman I'm glad I wasn't there as those comments would've got me kicked out.
The "person" who made these comments..... I bet they wouldn't put their life on the line for our country.
Sorry ,, had to say something,,,,,,I've copped it at the airport on previous occasions whilst wearing ceremonials and it isn't fun.

Back to the footy [/quote]

terrible form agreed. Whoever it was is very lucky it was not said infront of myself and my mates.



BTW personal opinion if I had to give votes today.

3 WHUFC (SAfooty)
2 Thomas.P (CD)
1 Gowans.J (CD)

WHUFC BOG by far !!!![/quote]

how can you give Thomas BOG RC. Wasn't he reported for head butting Walker.[/quote]
He hasn't been found guilty, so what's the problem?

[CENTURION]

Very disappointing crowd, especially as Centrals moved the game to Adelaide for a bigger crowd. IMO, the crowd would have been similar, if not more, at Hamra Homes Oval.

I'm not sure that it would have helped the crowd, the past few years the game has been mid week, a lot would have taken the oppotunity to get away for the long weekend this year. I was at the march from 9am and a lot of nuetral supporters commented that they would be going to the game after the march as it was right next door.
The biigest factor in the dissapointing crowd IMHO was the long weekend.

I think the poor crowd is due to every Tom, Dick and Harry club around SA now fixturing an ANZAC Day clash, as well as the increased popularity of the AFL game on tv at the same time. All roads once led to Adelaide Oval on ANZAC Day, but not anymore.

The game started far too late. If they want ANZACS to attend the game, why have such a large gap between the march & the match? I was at The Queen's Head at 12.30 & was watching thousands of people driving home from Adelaide. The match should start a lot sooner!

[bulldogproud]

I believe that the start time was to allow the ABC to be able to get their broadcast equipment from the march to the game. Haven't time to comment on the match except to say a couple of things: A very good start by Central which had me thinking that good form is not too far away. Sadly, the second half did not match this effort. For North there were some good signs too. A very strong third quarter which showed that they have character, great games by young Wright and also Alleway back in defence (until he had a brain fade and thumped Chris with his elbow). As for the umpiring, consistently bad all day (consistent in that neither team was favoured). What may have made Central supporters feel that they were hard done by was that it was in the third quarter that everything seemed to go North's way. However, there were times in the first half and last quarter that ticky-touchwood frees were paid to Central.
Btw, I hope that you heard your name mentioned on RPH, JTC.

Cheers

[Brucetiki]

I'm not too sure if the long weekend could be a factor for the low crowd given that in 2003 (also held on a Friday) there was over 8000 for the Anzac day game (and Norwood played that night too), and even 6000 for the 2004 game (held on the public holiday Monday).

Yesterday was also the first time since 2004 that the side that won the previous years GF won the subsequent Anzac Day game.

[Big Phil]

Bull s***t frees? pfft didn't look bull s***t on TV and why wasn't Slade penalised for calling the boundary umpire a f***ing cheat twice (once you'd let go but twice??? especially when it was so audible it wasn't funny) when he tried a blind turn to keep the ball in play.

If the umpire had clamped down on Slade then maybe he would have kept his mouth shut in the 3rd qtr when he gave away the two 25 m penalties....

Also in the last qtr when Gowan got the free kick and 25 m when Allaway came in late why wasn't it reversed when Faulkner charged Allaway???

After the goal from the two 50 s in the 3rd qtr the free kick count was 16 - 14 Centrals way so its not like North were getting a ride .

Obviously you were wayching the wrong game Tassie...

Yes Slade did give away a 50m penalty for backchat to the umpire but the second one paid by the shocking Tony Dey was actually for another Dogs player crossing the mark. I don't understand why they were 50's paid though ? Surely they should have only been 25's ? So in saying that mate, get your facts right Tassie before slagging players off. The Alleway one didn't need to be reversed as Cam was just sticking up for his team mate and being right in front of the umpie, he obviously didn't see it bad enough to reverse it did he ???

Yes the free kick tally evened out but it wasn't the amount of frees paid that annoyed our supporters. It was the pedantic and inconsistant manner in which they were paid. I don't blame the Doggies players getting stuck into the umpires because everytime we got a bit of a run in that 3rd quarter happening a woeful decision was paid in favour of North keeping them in the game (as well as our own innaccuracy at times)

Can't wait for Sunday's clash against your mob, reckon it should be a cracker of a game. We will have some good players available to come back into the team, maybe Ware, Cowan and McCabe and obviuosly Glenelg will be on a high after bringing all the Sturt supporters egos back down to earth with a thud. I reckon it will be a tight, tough contest, if the wether is good, my tip is the Dogs by 4 goals. Look out for Ian Callinan to dominate after being well held by Trent Sporn yesterday. The Tassie star doesn't play 2 bad games in a row and will be invaluable to our success against The Bays.

GO U DOGGIES...

Big Phil...

[Big Phil]

No need to apologise, I just don't want to still be discussing that on page 3.

Does anyone remember Gowans thumping Schubert in last years Grand Final?

Yeah, wasn't that because Shubert hit him first for no reason, behind play ??!!

Interesting to hear Mark Soderstrom mention on the ABC coverage that he actually sat in on the tribunal hearing for James Gowans incident. Of course, they highlighted it three or four times during the Grand Final highlights they were showing in the hlaf time break. The showed "never seen before" footage of Shubert clocking James in the noggin' then highlighted that the game day footage didn't pick this up and it only showed the resluting chase down and "revenge" hit from Central's number 28.

Good to hear Soda mention that they took this into consideration when handing out the length of the suspension. Many people said that James was lucky not to be in the AFL and get 6 - 8 weeks but it was also mentioned that he did actually cop a 6 week ban but had 3 weeks taken off this decision because of the instigation Shubert gave him. Good to see justice prevail to an extent but technically I reckon Shubert got off pretty lightly in terms of not getting reported himself ???

Big Phil...

[smithy]

CRAP - SInce when has retaliation been a defence ?

[Big Phil]

CRAP - SInce when has retaliation been a defence ?

So if you were at the pub having a quiet beer Smithy and someone came up to you from behind and clobbered you for no reason what would you do ???

Turn around in self DEFENCE and RETALIATE back throwing a few left hooks yourself ??? I know I certainly would, but I don't know about you Smithy ? You're not one of those types that would rather sit down talk it out like grown adults are you now ???

Shane Shubert got what he deserved in my opinion and yes, justifiably James Gowans was punished accordingly...

Big Phil...

[am Bays]

Obviously you were wayching the wrong game Tassie...

Yes Slade did give away a 50m penalty for backchat to the umpire but the second one paid by the shocking Tony Dey was actually for another Dogs player crossing the mark. I don't understand why they were 50's paid though ? Surely they should have only been 25's ? So in saying that mate, get your facts right Tassie before slagging players off. The Alleway one didn't need to be reversed as Cam was just sticking up for his team mate and being right in front of the umpie, he obviously didn't see it bad enough to reverse it did he ???

Mate two 25s for back chat as I said (on TV I saw Dey motion and tap his forearm twice or so it appeared to me), one 50 for across the mark hence why he signalled ith his arm going across his body.

MAte running into another player even if your side has a free kick can be grounds for a reversal as Pat Fittock found out when he "stuck up" for Charlie Sharples after Ruory Kirkby had infringed on Charlie Sharples...

Yes this week will be a cracker, my overall impression of Centrals was that they were a team short of a run and missing a bit of cohesion with their linkages through the midfield - that one handball to many or just missing the target.

Centrals will be very good when they get their game right - again...

Would not be surprised if it is next Sunday.

[smithy]

Yeah I'd belt the bloke.....

Then goto court and the judge says.......Smithy off to jail for 6 months....

OOOOOhhh but your honour, he started it........oh ok.....4 months then.

Gowans best form of revenge would've been to show the north player the premiership medallion.

ANyhow, Big Phil,, this subject was done to death way back in these forums......do a search and see what the footy public thought of it....I'm not saying anything else on that matter so the thread can get back on topic.

[doggies4eva]

To say the umpiring was "average "is an understatement, bad both ways. They certainly understand the rules ( or Laws for the pedants among us ) but they don't understand "the game" ie. they are too technical on issues where the supposed infringement does not affect the passage of the ball, are they following the AFL ? It sure looks like it and personally I think its a bad move. One of them was a very good junior footballer and should have a "feel" for the game but he seems to have lost it. On watching the game when I got home hope fully "Weed" was only there because there was no-one else available, no wonder he didn't last long as a coach !!!!!!

Bloody lucky we won two sheds or you would really have to go off

[rod_rooster]

CRAP - SInce when has retaliation been a defence ?

So if you were at the pub having a quiet beer Smithy and someone came up to you from behind and clobbered you for no reason what would you do ???

Turn around in self DEFENCE and RETALIATE back throwing a few left hooks yourself ??? I know I certainly would, but I don't know about you Smithy ? You're not one of those types that would rather sit down talk it out like grown adults are you now ???

Shane Shubert got what he deserved in my opinion and yes, justifiably James Gowans was punished accordingly...

Big Phil...

Matthew Simpson got what he deserved based on your opinions. Always knew Simsy was right and now you've confirmed it. Thanks Big Phil.

[OCT]

The game started far too late. If they want ANZACS to attend the game, why have such a large gap between the march & the match? I was at The Queen's Head at 12.30 & was watching thousands of people driving home from Adelaide. The match should start a lot sooner!

Correct. Pull the ressies and play when you have a surrounding audience. I reckon the SANFL media coverage has been good so far this year but no bloody surprise cos the numbers are up which means the media says , lets report this cos people are interested. FFS is anyone home !! The ANZAC coverage was pathetic . Time to to fire it up big time and start it earlier . Very ordinary crowd and no atmosphere from what I hear on TV

[twosheds]

To say the umpiring was "average "is an understatement, bad both ways. They certainly understand the rules ( or Laws for the pedants among us ) but they don't understand "the game" ie. they are too technical on issues where the supposed infringement does not affect the passage of the ball, are they following the AFL ? It sure looks like it and personally I think its a bad move. One of them was a very good junior footballer and should have a "feel" for the game but he seems to have lost it. On watching the game when I got home hope fully "Weed" was only there because there was no-one else available, no wonder he didn't last long as a coach !!!!!!

Bloody lucky we won two sheds or you would really have to go off

I'm getting too old now to go off ! It is so frustrating and really disappointing to see the umps slavishly follow the AFL interpretations when they did it well just a few short years ago ie. were not overly technical . Sad to see.

[Ian]

The ANZAC coverage was pathetic . Time to to fire it up big time and start it earlier . Very ordinary crowd and no atmosphere from what I hear on TV

spot on OCT, as well as a number of nuetral supporters at the mach that said they were going, there was a lot who looked at my kids in their guernseys asking "are North playing today?" and "Where are they playing?" the pre match promotion was very poor.

[Dogwatcher]

BTW personal opinion if I had to give votes today.

3 WHUFC (SAfooty)
2 Thomas.P (CD)
1 Gowans.J (CD)

WHUFC BOG by far !!!!

Agreed! Nice to meet you WHUFC - not that you'll remember