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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby CUTTERMAN » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:22 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote: maybe Port should look at giving money to a needy SANFL club or local amateur comp.


Maybe the SANFL should be putting more money into the SANFL teams instead of putting so much money into the Crows facilities, ie allowing the Crows to use Max Basheer Reserve rent free, or paying overheads for the Crows Shed. Maybe the Crows can use some of their large yearly profit to support themselves instead of the SANFL doing it.

Also, I laugh at the morons who think Port arent giving money back to the SANFL each year, including someof you so called experts.

Hey, I don't have a problem with Port trying to widen their market and bring on new members, I think it's very important for footy in SA, I've never seen myself as an expert, I've never said that Port aren't giving money back to the SANFL and I don't pretend to know a clubs' finances or what they do with it. In 1991 Adelaide joined the AFL and worked out of an Atco hut for the first year or so, in 1997 Port join the AFL and start building multi-million dollar infrastructures at Alberton, it was needed, but if they then want to come back to the SANFL and say 'we're not turning much of a profit because of our licence and debts, can we pay less back to the SANFL' then I do have a bit of a problem with that if NOW they decide to sponsor another sport while still giving back less money to the SANFL. One of my main points was that maybe Port should look at helping their own sport before others, think of the respect that might come from other SANFL clubs / supporters, or amateur, if Port gave them a one off payment to help with a debt or painting clubrooms, changerooms etc. Could be as small as $10,000. Anyway I would respect it.
Maybe it's time Adelaide found a new home for clubrooms, training etc, personally I think they should move to Thebarton Oval.
1870, you seem to know, so answer these-
-how much is the SANFL giving to Adelaide towards their facilities?
-are the SANFL giving Port money towards their facilities at Alberton or future ones at FP?
-what overheads do the SANFL pay concerning the Shed?
Have you considered that ALL footy supporters that go to FP use Max Basheer Res. for carparking and recreation, so how much should Adelaide pay for the few times they run on it?
I had a bit of a half arsed jibe at the end of my post, apart from that I'm not bashing Port, just posing questions. If the return to the SANFL from both AFL clubs are based on a % of membership and revenue turned then I don't have a problem with that.
Maybe the media look at it the same way with their coverage! :shock:
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby am Bays » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:01 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:[Maybe it's time Adelaide found a new home for clubrooms, training etc, personally I think they should move to Thebarton Oval.


F*** off we were in the AFL first if they don't like us being too close they can move.....

Base them at Port Stanvac (so they can keep the Port bit of their name) or Thebby just like their former cousins the Port Natives aka West Torrens
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Booney » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:35 am

Wedgie wrote:This might sound crazy and will never happen but I'd love to see them putting 200k per year into the Magpies not the Thunderbirds as the Magpies probably need it more and it would help even up the comp a bit.
As I said, it would never happen though.


A great idea and one I would truly embrace,yet the SANFL will ensure this never happens.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Hondo » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:44 am

We can't have one of our 2 AFL teams directly sponsoring a single SANFL club

Booney is right it will never happen .... and IMO neither should it

They are separate competitions - imagine if the Crows just decided to give Norwood $300,000 :shock:

AFL funds must funnel through the SANFL (they own the licenses after all - all 9 SANFL clubs effectively own the licenses) and then the SANFL can decide on the allocation
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Booney » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:49 am

At the risk of repeating myself Hondo,part of the reason the relationship between the Magpies and Power is so strained is the measures the SANFL put in place in late 96 to ensure the SANFL side did not gain a decided advantage from the AFL side.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Hondo » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:05 am

Booney wrote:At the risk of repeating myself Hondo,part of the reason the relationship between the Magpies and Power is so strained is the measures the SANFL put in place in late 96 to ensure the SANFL side did not gain a decided advantage from the AFL side.


Its not a good situation for the PAM I know

They got cut off from the PAP so they wouldn't get an advantage

But its ended up turning into a distinct disadvantage for PAM

I just don't think direct sponsorhip from PAP is the answer or is fair on the other 8 clubs who don't have an AFL presence or direct link
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Grahaml » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:02 pm

They can't sponsor an SANFL club. That's just a ridiculous idea.

Anyway, those people who are saying they should help a local footy team have missed the whole point of what the Power are tryint to do. They're trying to get new fans to support them. How many people support a footy team at a lower level that would then jump on the Power bandwagon? Very few I would have thought and certainly not enough to warrant such an arrangement. The netball is embarking on a new venture with this trans tasman league and the Power are hoping the Netball becomes a major sport in SA and then with their sponsorship of the Thunderbirds have hope of pulling many people who aren't members of any AFL team and have no allegiances already. It's primarily about making money, not helping out another team.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby JK » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:48 pm

hondo71 wrote:We can't have one of our 2 AFL teams directly sponsoring a single SANFL club

Booney is right it will never happen .... and IMO neither should it

They are separate competitions - imagine if the Crows just decided to give Norwood $300,000 :shock:


You know, the more you guys discuss this option, the better it's sounding :D
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:31 am

Grahaml wrote:They can't sponsor an SANFL club. That's just a ridiculous idea.

Anyway, those people who are saying they should help a local footy team have missed the whole point of what the Power are tryint to do. They're trying to get new fans to support them. How many people support a footy team at a lower level that would then jump on the Power bandwagon? Very few I would have thought and certainly not enough to warrant such an arrangement. The netball is embarking on a new venture with this trans tasman league and the Power are hoping the Netball becomes a major sport in SA and then with their sponsorship of the Thunderbirds have hope of pulling many people who aren't members of any AFL team and have no allegiances already. It's primarily about making money, not helping out another team.

Grahaml, I agree with what you're saying and what the power are expecting to achieve.
But is this not South Australia we are living in?
Everyone will have some sort of alliance with an AFL club. The power can give me $200K and I still wont barrack for them!
The only ones that need swaying are those migrants straight off a plane, and I doubt they will head to the nearest netball court.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby smac » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:47 am

Why get so upset with where Port spend their marketing $$?
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Psyber » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:49 am

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:
Grahaml wrote:They can't sponsor an SANFL club. That's just a ridiculous idea.

Anyway, those people who are saying they should help a local footy team have missed the whole point of what the Power are tryint to do. They're trying to get new fans to support them. How many people support a footy team at a lower level that would then jump on the Power bandwagon? Very few I would have thought and certainly not enough to warrant such an arrangement. The netball is embarking on a new venture with this trans tasman league and the Power are hoping the Netball becomes a major sport in SA and then with their sponsorship of the Thunderbirds have hope of pulling many people who aren't members of any AFL team and have no allegiances already. It's primarily about making money, not helping out another team.

Grahaml, I agree with what you're saying and what the power are expecting to achieve.
But is this not South Australia we are living in?
Everyone will have some sort of alliance with an AFL club. The power can give me $200K and I still wont barrack for them!
The only ones that need swaying are those migrants straight off a plane, and I doubt they will head to the nearest netball court.

You are right! Perhaps the Power should give the money to the nearest militant mosque! :wink:
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:30 am

smac wrote:Why get so upset with where Port spend their marketing $$?


I'm not upset with this at all. I'm all for the power wasting their money. :wink: Just baffled. Should have spent in on sponsoring a junior footy program or something. Like the mini-league.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby smac » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:36 am

Whilst it sounds good on the surface, to sponsor a junior program, it does little good in the long run, unless it can be sustained for a number of years.

The Crows sponsored SANFL junior development a few years ago with big promises and rebranding of all outfits with their logo (looked funny to see a Port Magpies windcheater with a Crows logo). 12 months later they pulled the pin and left development squads with a large expense to replace everything - larger than their contribution from what I understand.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:00 am

Well if anything they expose their brand into NZ, although I believe they hate the Australian game with a passion.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Pseudo » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:16 am

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:But is this not South Australia we are living in?
Everyone will have some sort of alliance with an AFL club.


You'll find plenty of folk here who are both South Australian and have no allegiance to any AFL club. And likely never will.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:50 am

Pseudo wrote:
HeartBeatsTrue wrote:But is this not South Australia we are living in?
Everyone will have some sort of alliance with an AFL club.


You'll find plenty of folk here who are both South Australian and have no allegiance to any AFL club. And likely never will.

Granted.
How many of those people follow netball?
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby smac » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:51 am

I guess we're about to find out. :wink:
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Dirko » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:04 pm

IMO, a stupid thing by the T'Birds. Have a good friend who's better half goes most weeks, due to her liking netball but she HATES Port Adelaide, and has said that she would think twice about supporting a team that is sponsored by Port.
Will raise alot of questions next year if attendances are down..
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby heater31 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:07 pm

SJABC wrote:IMO, a stupid thing by the T'Birds. Have a good friend who's better half goes most weeks, due to her liking netball but she HATES Port Adelaide, and has said that she would think twice about supporting a team that is sponsored by Port.
Will raise alot of questions next year if attendances are down..



It might not also, I have a few female friends that support Port. I don't why I thought Females were supposed to be intelligent.........
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby smac » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:16 pm

That sounds odd. I don't support my team based on who their sponsors are. If Port chose to sponsor Centrals, I would continue to support Centrals.
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