Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

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Which interstate team to join SANFL?

Tassie Devils
27
31%
NT team based in Alice Springs
10
12%
NT team based in Darwin
16
19%
None
33
38%
 
Total votes : 86

Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby giffo » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:25 pm

As long as they wear black and white and call themselves Port, they are the mortal enemy :twisted: . Now back on topic, I would have much more hope in selling a trip to the NT in winter 8) to the missus than to Tas.
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby Aerie » Wed May 07, 2008 11:35 pm

Rucci was talking about a 10th team coming from Whyalla in today's paper. Seemed to think there would be enough sponsorship, population and talent in the region. He also said it would be the only regional area in SA that could support a SANFL team. Any sense to his ideas?
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby spell_check » Wed May 07, 2008 11:36 pm

Aerie wrote:Rucci was talking about a 10th team coming from Whyalla in today's paper. Seemed to think there would be enough sponsorship, population and talent in the region. He also said it would be the only regional area in SA that could support a SANFL team. Any sense to his ideas?


My two questions to Rucci:
Who has Whyalla as part of their country zone?
Where would Whyalla's country zone be?
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby Aerie » Wed May 07, 2008 11:54 pm

spell_check wrote:
Aerie wrote:Rucci was talking about a 10th team coming from Whyalla in today's paper. Seemed to think there would be enough sponsorship, population and talent in the region. He also said it would be the only regional area in SA that could support a SANFL team. Any sense to his ideas?


My two questions to Rucci:
Who has Whyalla as part of their country zone?
Where would Whyalla's country zone be?


I'm not Rucci but...

I think Whyalla is part of Port's zone now. Shirley and Burton were from Whyalla so I think it was the Eagles zone not long ago. Whyalla would get Port Pirie and Port Augusta as well as being a pathway for indigenous footballers in remote areas up north. Port Magpies could continue to develop from Port Lincoln as they do now and I'd guess some country zones would need to be reshuffled.
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby pipers » Thu May 08, 2008 12:21 am

They can all get **** as far as I'm concerned. Whyalla too. The simple fact that Ruccis suggested Whyalla should be reason enogh for that to be passed over immediately.

Do we need a 10th team?

No...

Will there be significant financial benefit to the existing 9 SANFL clubs?

No...

Will the deal be struck with heavy involvement from the AFL and will that open the door for further meddling by their henchmen and goons?

Most probably....

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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby doggies4eva » Thu May 08, 2008 9:14 am

fatalberton wrote:They can all get **** as far as I'm concerned. Whyalla too. The simple fact that Ruccis suggested Whyalla should be reason enogh for that to be passed over immediately.

Do we need a 10th team?

No...

Will there be significant financial benefit to the existing 9 SANFL clubs?

No...

Will the deal be struck with heavy involvement from the AFL and will that open the door for further meddling by their henchmen and goons?

Most probably....

IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!


But it is broke :roll:
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby pipers » Thu May 08, 2008 10:09 am

doggies4eva wrote:But it is broke :roll:


No it isn't.
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby darley16 » Thu May 08, 2008 12:25 pm

My understanding of the current situation is that the NT side is still ready to go, however it is now clear that there will be a financial cost to be worn by the 9 SA clubs therefore the SANFL will now vote against this inclusion within the next 2 wks. Only one winner here, the AFL....as usual. The major concern for our comp lays in the 2 additional AFL teams taking anyone who appears to be able to play reducing SANFL standard to parkland footy.
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby doggies4eva » Thu May 08, 2008 1:40 pm

fatalberton wrote:
doggies4eva wrote:But it is broke :roll:


No it isn't.


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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby therisingblues » Thu May 08, 2008 2:15 pm

fatalberton wrote:They can all get **** as far as I'm concerned. Whyalla too. The simple fact that Ruccis suggested Whyalla should be reason enogh for that to be passed over immediately.

Do we need a 10th team?

No...

Will there be significant financial benefit to the existing 9 SANFL clubs?

No...

Will the deal be struck with heavy involvement from the AFL and will that open the door for further meddling by their henchmen and goons?

Most probably....

IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!


Before the Crows joined the AFL the SANFL got at least 30,000 to every round gauranteed. A good round got in excess of 40,000 and on rare occassions I think there were rounds in excess of 50,000.
Nowadays to get more than 20,000 to a single round is almost unheard of (though circumstances are almost perfect for that to happen this round). Our Grand Final and Finals attendances are steadily declining.
What's even more disturbing is that the SANFL's attendances are far in excess of what a second string competition usually draws anywhere in the world. The decline we are experiencing will eventually level off somewhere around the usual mark for a second string competition (probably around 3,000 to 6,000 a round of footy) as those that remember the "good old days" start dropping off, or get too old to go the footy.
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby doggies4eva » Thu May 08, 2008 2:17 pm

Told you fatal
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby csbowes » Thu May 08, 2008 3:25 pm

I think the 10th team should come from the Barossa Valley. While its all very interesting and fanciful to have a NT or Tassie side in the league, the logistics of adding such a team, travel and so on, would be immense. Its one thing to say the team comes in self funding, but are they going to fund my teams travel?

Do I even want my team travelling two zillion miles to oona-whoop-whoop to play a game? The Barossa is only another 30 mins on from Centralsville, so its not a huge trek, its a good country area with a growing population and I reckon you'd be guaranteed some good crowds and growing crowds, as the local area would feed their local team.

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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby peterg » Thu May 08, 2008 9:10 pm

doggies4eva wrote:
fatalberton wrote:
doggies4eva wrote:But it is broke :roll:


No it isn't.


Is so
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csbowes wrote:Do I even want my team travelling two zillion miles to oona-whoop-whoop to play a game? The Barossa is only another 30 mins on from Centralsville, so its not a huge trek, its a good country area with a growing population and I reckon you'd be guaranteed some good crowds and growing crowds, as the local area would feed their local team.

The Barossa Valley Winos! There's a name we could all love...


I like the Barossa, Whyalla, or NT (Alice or Darwin or both) option/s .. Barossa or Whyalla makes more sense than the NT, at least

Tas can't even get into the AFL, and doesn't make sense being in the SANFL. They're in the VFL - why should they be in the SANFL? At least then the N part of the Sanfl would make sense ...
But yes, it was a pretty pointless comment wasn't it?!
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby eyeofthetiger » Fri May 09, 2008 12:37 am

therisingblues wrote:
fatalberton wrote:They can all get **** as far as I'm concerned. Whyalla too. The simple fact that Ruccis suggested Whyalla should be reason enogh for that to be passed over immediately.

Do we need a 10th team?

No...

Will there be significant financial benefit to the existing 9 SANFL clubs?

No...

Will the deal be struck with heavy involvement from the AFL and will that open the door for further meddling by their henchmen and goons?

Most probably....

IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!


Before the Crows joined the AFL the SANFL got at least 30,000 to every round gauranteed. A good round got in excess of 40,000 and on rare occassions I think there were rounds in excess of 50,000.
Nowadays to get more than 20,000 to a single round is almost unheard of (though circumstances are almost perfect for that to happen this round). Our Grand Final and Finals attendances are steadily declining.
What's even more disturbing is that the SANFL's attendances are far in excess of what a second string competition usually draws anywhere in the world. The decline we are experiencing will eventually level off somewhere around the usual mark for a second string competition (probably around 3,000 to 6,000 a round of footy) as those that remember the "good old days" start dropping off, or get too old to go the footy.
IT'S BROKE BABY! IT'S BROKE!


I with you TRB . Unfortunately we can stay the same and slowly become irrelevant or become a national league and fight for exposure.

Problem is that the AFL will try to block any expansion moves we have.
A strong second tier competition is not what they want.

If an added interstate team fails what have we lost.
Dare to struggle dare to win.
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby Dirko » Fri May 09, 2008 12:38 am

Hi peterg...welcome to SAFooty 8)

Personally I think the Hills is the go...

Central are close enough to the Barossa to cover that area.

Mt Barker is booming, and would be great up there in the middle of winter freezing ya ass off !!
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby Aerie » Fri May 09, 2008 12:40 am

SJABC wrote:Hi peterg...welcome to SAFooty 8)

Personally I think the Hills is the go...

Central are close enough to the Barossa to cover that area.

Mt Barker is booming, and would be great up there in the middle of winter freezing ya ass off !!


Any chance of Sturt or West relocating there in the future?
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby Dirko » Fri May 09, 2008 12:48 am

Sturt would be the logical choice, for a relocation to the Hills, wouldn't happen as it'd be inappropriate :lol:
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby pipers » Fri May 09, 2008 10:14 am

doggies4eva wrote:
fatalberton wrote:
doggies4eva wrote:But it is broke :roll:


No it isn't.


Is so


Is not, times infinity.
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby doggies4eva » Fri May 09, 2008 10:18 am

eyeofthetiger wrote:
therisingblues wrote:
fatalberton wrote:They can all get **** as far as I'm concerned. Whyalla too. The simple fact that Ruccis suggested Whyalla should be reason enogh for that to be passed over immediately.

Do we need a 10th team?

No...

Will there be significant financial benefit to the existing 9 SANFL clubs?

No...

Will the deal be struck with heavy involvement from the AFL and will that open the door for further meddling by their henchmen and goons?

Most probably....

IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!


Before the Crows joined the AFL the SANFL got at least 30,000 to every round gauranteed. A good round got in excess of 40,000 and on rare occassions I think there were rounds in excess of 50,000.
Nowadays to get more than 20,000 to a single round is almost unheard of (though circumstances are almost perfect for that to happen this round). Our Grand Final and Finals attendances are steadily declining.
What's even more disturbing is that the SANFL's attendances are far in excess of what a second string competition usually draws anywhere in the world. The decline we are experiencing will eventually level off somewhere around the usual mark for a second string competition (probably around 3,000 to 6,000 a round of footy) as those that remember the "good old days" start dropping off, or get too old to go the footy.
IT'S BROKE BABY! IT'S BROKE!


I with you TRB . Unfortunately we can stay the same and slowly become irrelevant or become a national league and fight for exposure.

Problem is that the AFL will try to block any expansion moves we have.
A strong second tier competition is not what they want.

If an added interstate team fails what have we lost.
Dare to struggle dare to win.


Agreed with most of this except we can't become a national league as the AFL has this sewn up. What we can consider is a serious second tier regional structure - maybe a merged comp with WA and an NT team thrown in as well. But that would require a lot of hard questions!
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Re: Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

Postby doggies4eva » Fri May 09, 2008 10:19 am

fatalberton wrote:
doggies4eva wrote:
fatalberton wrote:
doggies4eva wrote:But it is broke :roll:


No it isn't.


Is so


Is not, times infinity.


Well Port at least is broke - you can't deny that :lol:
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