worst umpiring in SANFL for a long long time

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Postby Spiritof64 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:13 pm

Umpiring was ordinary, but to the Eags credit they didn't have the whistles and once they established what the umps were letting go or paying they adapted better.
Best example would be the shepherding in the ruck. Very well executed.

3 decisions I'd like clarified though.

1. Eagles player (not sure which one as they all look alike :D ) had a free kick and was over the boundary line, he turned off the line and handballed from outside the line. I always thought that was play on and should have been called OOB.
2. Another Eag (No3 I think - looks the goods) took posession of the ball ran a coupla steps straightarmed one of the Gowans'sss and put him on his rump, then did a 270 and ran into swarm (herd, flock, school, murder?) of Bulldogs. Ball up. Obviously I have been under the misapprehension that if you have time to break a tackle take some avoiding action and try to break another tackle it is "BALLLL!"
3 Doggy player tackled Fiachi and held his wrist so he was unable to dispose of the ball. Result... Ball up. Other end I think Cooper did exactly the same to a bulldog, result free kick and goal.

Probably others for both sides but those are the ones that I remember.

Also NO WAY Ciccolella wasn't BOG!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Pseudo » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:23 pm

Spiritof64 wrote:Also NO WAY Ciccolella wasn't BOG!!!!!!!!!


It sure as hell wasn't Skipworth. I might have given it to number 3 (Jarrad? Buy a Budget) but Cicca was also up there.
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Postby Spiritof64 » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:29 pm

Pseudo wrote:
Spiritof64 wrote:Also NO WAY Ciccolella wasn't BOG!!!!!!!!!


It sure as hell wasn't Skipworth. I might have given it to number 3 (Jarrad? Buy a Budget) but Cicca was also up there.


I think JC was robbed. That's the sort of SANFL ddecision that could see a shortage of Whiting, Flathead and Tommy Roughs for months. :roll:
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Postby am Bays » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:36 pm

Spirit of 64, based on what you ahve posted this is how I see it as a level 2 umpire...(Damn I love the perpindicular pronoun
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1. should have been called play on by the fieldy and the fag (boundary umpire) should signal our of bounds and throw it in, the key call is the fieldy should call paly on, which is the signal for the fag to make the call. Law 16.5.1 b (ii)

Soon as player moves off the line or rotates awy from the line of the kick towards goals it should be play on)

2. Should have been holding the ball as he had prior opportunity, as you described it, to dispose of the ball. It is an interpretive thing, the field umpire has to decide in an instant whether he has had or hasn't had prior opportunity and if he has, has he attempted to correctly dispose of the ball - Law 15.2.3 b

3. Hard to say as once again the two different examples may or may not have had prior opportunity. If the Eagles player hasn't had prior opportunity when he is grabbed by the wrist. The correct decision has been made - ball up.

This is the problem with the two and three umpire system as the split second decsion often leaves the umpires as a team open to criticism of inconsistancy. Even as an indifividul umpire it leaves you open, many times I have made the split second decision and thought **** that wasn't the same interpretation as I made earlier.

In an instant an umpire has to make a holding the ball decsion he has to consider: 1) prior or no prior opportunity, 2) was the tackle correct, 3) was the attempt or actual disposal of the ball correct, and 4) was the player making the ball his sole objective given the opportunity to do so, in other words was he bing scragged while trying to get hold of the ball originally.

Try do that several times in a 10 sec period when it is a tight close game like a GF.......
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Postby topsywaldron » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:39 pm

When the game was up for grabs, in the first quarter, Justin Cicollela played about the best quarter of football I've ever seen. Given his history of GF performances I thought it was a mighty effort.

BOG by a mile for mine.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:02 pm

If my side got beaten by 76 points, I don't know if I'd be worrying about the umpiring too much. And yes, I've only watched the 1st half on replay so far, but Cicolella is so far ahead of anyone else for BOG it's almost comical.
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Postby Brad » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:32 pm

Umpires favoured the Dogs early from what I saw but in the end Eagles were too good for the Dogs.

Umpires didn't decide the match.

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Postby Mickyj » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:38 pm

Fuuny thing when the doggies dont win they blame the umpires , or could it be the slow old doggies players ie the old and tired Gowans were giving away free kicks instead of going for the ball !!!
Doggies fans sitting behind me thought it was a boring game, and which fans said they play rugby style !!
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Re: worst umpiring in SANFL for a long long time

Postby Ian » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:40 pm

rubbers0ul wrote:was an absolute disgrace, the ump in the eagles 50 was a cheat.

cooper pull sibnealer on him and gets a free; was a f****n disgrace. - possibly the worst decision ive seen ever.

and the player currie tackled placed the ball on the ground in the motion of the tackle and got a free.

an eagles player playing on after coping one around the face and getting caught a good 10metres from where he started to play on.

the eagles player that went down with an oscar due to contact about 50metres out 3rd quarter, on the reply currie didnt touch him

slade getting tackled around the face on the boundary line members side, no free.

these are just off the top of my head. the guy next to me was listening to a walkmen and he said the commentators even started laughing at some of the frees they were kicking goals from.

for me, this umpiring was worse then the deal the crows copped vs west coast.

richard williams destroyed us in the grand final last year two, when the eagles player kept faking hed been hit in the face by gowans, the reply showed that the contact was soooooooooooooooo small and the eagles player just threw his head back.


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Postby rubbers0ul » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:41 pm

i said that the eagles got some bloody soft frees infront of goal but i never once said the umpires decided the match. i said that they were shocking. the eagles smashed us today, their half back line was bloody sensational today. we were waiting around for something to happen.

also, nor did i say that we lost because of the umpires decisions, i was merely implying that we got crucified by the umps today. so next time you have a go at me look at what the thread is about; in this case - the shit umpiring, not we lost cause of the umps....
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Postby mal » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:19 pm

As a nuetral supporter I feel that the dogs were hard done by
in the first quarter, but with the score 3-8 to 2-1 and 2 uses
of a breeze to come home with they were in a position to truimph,
but those Eagle boys were simply too good on the day.
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Postby Ian » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:01 am

rubbers0ul wrote:

but i never once said the umpires decided the match ............................................................................................................................................................................................................. i was merely implying that we got crucified by the umps


Not sure how I could have got it so wrong, sorry rubbers0ul :?
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Postby dash61 » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:44 am

sydney-dog wrote:the umpiring was a little inconsistent at times BUT it did not effect the result and the better team won on the day

we got smashed by 10 goals, our players made more mistakes then the umpires



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Postby Dirko » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:01 am

What a post..very sour grapes. As a neutral supporter at the game, the Doggies lack of discipline was what cost them a lot of free kicks...Beaten by a better side...Don't blame the umpires...look elsewhere !! :roll:
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Postby topsywaldron » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:14 am

sjab wrote: the Doggies lack of discipline was what cost them a lot of free kicks


It was a bit sad to see the Gowans go out in such an undignified manner.

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Postby spell_check » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:29 am

Apparently the free kick count was:

Eagles 29
Central 23
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Postby TroyGFC » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:05 am

I thought prehaps first 1/4 umpires crucified Doggies but after that Eagles were just the better team. At least this year they can put some paint onto the West End chimenys instead of clear.
BOG def wasnt Skipworth, just ask Punky!! I thought Cicolella by far. Anyone know what club gave as BOG?
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Postby zipzap » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:08 am

topsywaldron wrote:
sjab wrote: the Doggies lack of discipline was what cost them a lot of free kicks


It was a bit sad to see the Gowans go out in such an undignified manner.

Chortle.


Yeah, devastating, heh heh! Nice to see how their true colours shine when they're on the receiving end for once. Sooky babies.

Cica b.o.g. by a mile for mine, his first quarter was jaw-dropping.
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Postby blueandwhite » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:25 am

I thought Ciccalella was BOG, easily- his first quarter when the pressure was on was exceptional. As for the umpiring , I thought it was ok, not brilliant, not bad but ok. Currie from centrals got away with murder, every time he was in a position to do so he buried an opposition players head into the turf, he was hanging onto Inkster in marking contests and was only penalised once. Centrals have nothing to complain about.
I thought that the eagles went out with the attitude that they were not going to be intimidated by anyone. If anything I thought they took it right up to Gowans bros and were really on the front foot. Both Gowans resorted to whinging and carping to the umpires for the rest of the game. My heart bleeds for them....... :roll:
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Postby rubbers0ul » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:07 pm

SOUTHWARK wrote:Gee you got home quick.Didn't wait around till the end?


when u live a 45 second walk from footy park its not hard to be home quick.
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