RD 4 Glenelg v West Review

[Thiele]

Good effort by West today. Ferguson was our best today followed Moran. So close we should won. Thought we were going to get murdered by the way the Bays but we thought back. Once again Good effort today bloods

[Pseudo]

however back to Westies, i thought you were pretty good and I can see definate improvement compared to flooding style I saw last year.

You mean they flooded better this year than they did last year? At one point (third term?) I reckon every player on the ground was in Glenelg's forward 50. At that point I thought the Bays were more than half a chance, 'coz I couldn't see the Bloods successfully bottling the play for the remainder of the match. They'd have done better to try continuing the running play of the second term, would've capitalised far better on Glenelg's shoddy game I reckon.

[am Bays]

can I also say that whilst teh talk in the Glenelg rooms after the game acknowledged the fact we played poorly and yet eeked out a win, it was also noted how westies have improved especially with a more direct style.

I don't think they'll come last this year.

[Pseudo]

Good effort by West today. Ferguson was our best today followed Moran. So close we should won. Thought we were going to get murdered by the way the Bays but we thought back. Once again Good effort today bloods

Moran was excellent. I reckon he was used to best effect when he appeared to be floating about a kick behind the play. His strong presence at the marking contests was pivotal in West regaining posession. Bit of a shame he happened to be the one who gave away the free at the end (it was him, right?) 'coz he had been West's best all day.

Is Ferguson #11? That was the only other West player I noticed consistently over the whole game.

[Dutchy]

Is Ferguson #11? That was the only other West player I noticed consistently over the whole game.

By a budget!!!

[Thiele]

Good effort by West today. Ferguson was our best today followed Moran. So close we should won. Thought we were going to get murdered by the way the Bays but we thought back. Once again Good effort today bloods

Moran was excellent. I reckon he was used to best effect when he appeared to be floating about a kick behind the play. His strong presence at the marking contests was pivotal in West regaining posession. Bit of a shame he happened to be the one who gave away the free at the end (it was him, right?) 'coz he had been West's best all day.

Is Ferguson #11? That was the only other West player I noticed consistently over the whole game.

Ferguson #27 he kicked 3. #11 is Ryan Anderson.

Don't know who gave away the free kick at the end.

That second 1/4 was one the best 1/4 i have seen for a while

[redandblack]

MAY-Z, there are so many holes in that post, I don't know where to start

Firstly, I agree with Meyer being in the best players, but I'm not an expert Bay supporter so I notice you didn't disagree with my others, so a fair effort, I think.

Yes, Glenelg missed easy shots, but in the context of the game, West could have closed it out several times except for missing easy shots.

As for the breeze, you're kidding. At 3/4 time, there had been 29 scoring shots to the northern end to 10 at the southern. There was at least a 2 goal breeze to the norther end all day.

It's nonsense to say that 4 of West's 7 goals came from Glenelg miskicks. I remember Sellar's clanger, I'll go through the other goals later, but that's just silly

Naturally, you think all of Glenelg's goals from frees were warranted. You barrack for Glenelg. I'm stating facts, not biased opinion. If you want biased opinion, I would have thought Ferguson being met front on to spoil a mark was an automatic free kick. "Play on".

As for Kirkby, that means you think you should have had more than 5 goals from frees. Don't be too greedy, you did well, especially Kirkby, who kicked the winning goal from a free paid by the same umpire who awarded 3 free kicks for goals in the last quarter, I think

As for Davenport, you are joking. Since when has 'junk time' been the whole first half. He was terrific, especially his goal from the boundary after running past the man on the mark. That was one of the goals in the second quarter that wasn't a Glenelg mistake

I said you deserved the win. I thought we had improved a lot. I think that's fair comment.

Pseudo, Ferguson was No 27, kicked 3 goals and had an influence all day. No 11 is Anderson. (buy a budget )

Sorry you couldn't see much good at all in an opposition.

[Dirko]

You mean they flooded better this year than they did last year? At one point (third term?) I reckon every player on the ground was in Glenelg's forward 50. At that point I thought the Bays were more than half a chance, 'coz I couldn't see the Bloods successfully bottling the play for the remainder of the match. They'd have done better to try continuing the running play of the second term, would've capitalised far better on Glenelg's shoddy game I reckon.

Yep third term Mr Psuedo...that's when we were having a chat and not one bloke was West's attacking half. A lot of "Rugby" style scrums today
and overall a pretty ugly game of football....

Just glad we won....

And yep 11 was a Anderson...a certain Snout (hint same name) was caught yelling "You're shit Anderson"

[Thiele]

Anyone knows the u/18s results.

What size was the Crowd it looked really good

[bayman]

The footy gods don't like bottom teams.

West lost because they don't quite know how to win and because they can't kick a goal from 25 metres out, straight in front.

Glenelg had Ty Allen, Ben Kane and Panozzo to thank for staying in the game and can thank Duldig's second half. After dominating with the breeze for the first 20 minutes, the Bays were out of the game until the third quarter. West clicked and used the ball impressively to kick 7 goals in the second quarter, with some great play from Caruso and Davenport in paerticular.

The other problem with being a bottom team is that you get no credit for good footy. Opposition supporters, such as my friend Pseudo, immediately put it down to poor play from their own team, with never any credit to the Bloods good play. In the second quarter, they ran and carried impressively for their best quarter for some time.

Easy misses in the third quarter kept the Bays in the game and their superior experience and knowing how to win got them the points. Good teams don't lose from the position that West were in, but at this stage, West aren't a good team. Yet.

The footy gods don't like bottom teams and the umpires certainly don't. As the RPH call underlined, 5 of Glenelg's 12 goals came from free kicks, most by the same umpire who seemed to camp in Glenelg's forward line all day. Needless to say, the winning goal came from a free kick. At the other end, 'open and shut cases' were generally called 'play on', as West scored 0 goals from free kicks. Put one win down to the Snouts.

Regardless of that, the Bloods had only themselves to blame for the loss. Poor kicking and decision-making at vital times were crucial and Glenelg were kept in with a sniff when West should have closed it out. They were good enough to lift and deserved the win.

As for West, plenty of good signs. Ferguson up forward kicked 3 goals and gave a contest all day, Caruso was brilliant at times and was B.O.G at the club, Moran was terrific in the ruck and around the ground and Davenport showed why he was drafted by Port. Ben Fisher was also strong at half-back.

Oh well, the lot of a Blood's supporter continues, but apart from the Sturt game, the improvement has been immense.

In some good news for the Bloods, Sal Hassan made a successful comeback in the winning Reserves side and Daniel Webb was also excellent in his first match back from injury.

there are so many holes in this post i dont know where to start

1- west werent the only team who missed easy goals - glenelg also missed their fair share with c.kane, mcconnell, o'grady and duldig also missing easy enough shots

2- should throw meyer into the good glenelg players for four quarters

3- the breeze was going to the southern end most of the day and when it wasnt it was going accross the ground

4- of wests so called impressive play for 7 goals at least 4 of them came direct from a glenelg player kicking straight to a west player in the defensive 50 - that isnt good play by west it is rubbish by glenelg

5- i dont hav ethe stats for how many goals were from frees but i cant think of any that were unwarranted, and obviously the mauling that kirkby was receiving all day without reward from the umpires has escaped your notice.

6- free kicks were 25-22 which is very even

7- west were very inefficient in their play with their 324 possesions only yielding 35 inside 50s, excessive handball for most of the day, glenelg had 332 possessions for 54 inside 50s

8- agree that caruso and moran were very good - a lot of davenports possessions were part of west junk play early in the game and he only had 1 kick in the 2nd half

may_z, agree with all but one of your points, point 3 despite where you were sitting (5rph said the same as you because of the limpless windsock) the breeze was definately going to the northern end & was worth 2 possibly 3 goals

[Pseudo]

I thought we had improved a lot. I think that's fair comment.

And I thought West was ordinary. Which is really in complete agreement with your own observation. Play on!

[bayman]

Anyone knows the u/18s results.

What size was the Crowd it looked really good

i know glenelg won the u/16's & u/18s as announced at the club tonight but i can't recall the scores although one was a flogging

[Thiele]

Anyone knows the u/18s results.

What size was the Crowd it looked really good

i know glenelg won the u/16's & u/18s as announced at the club tonight but i can't recall the scores although one was a flogging

Thanks

[MAY-Z]

MAY-Z, there are so many holes in that post, I don't know where to start

Firstly, I agree with Meyer being in the best players, but I'm not an expert Bay supporter so I notice you didn't disagree with my others, so a fair effort, I think.

Yes, Glenelg missed easy shots, but in the context of the game, West could have closed it out several times except for missing easy shots.

As for the breeze, you're kidding. At 3/4 time, there had been 29 scoring shots to the northern end to 10 at the southern. There was at least a 2 goal breeze to the norther end all day.

It's nonsense to say that 4 of West's 7 goals came from Glenelg miskicks. I remember Sellar's clanger, I'll go through the other goals later, but that's just silly

Naturally, you think all of Glenelg's goals from frees were warranted. You barrack for Glenelg. I'm stating facts, not biased opinion. If you want biased opinion, I would have thought Ferguson being met front on to spoil a mark was an automatic free kick. "Play on".

As for Kirkby, that means you think you should have had more than 5 goals from frees. Don't be too greedy, you did well, especially Kirkby, who kicked the winning goal from a free paid by the same umpire who awarded 3 free kicks for goals in the last quarter, I think

As for Davenport, you are joking. Since when has 'junk time' been the whole first half. He was terrific, especially his goal from the boundary after running past the man on the mark. That was one of the goals in the second quarter that wasn't a Glenelg mistake

I said you deserved the win. I thought we had improved a lot. I think that's fair comment.

Pseudo, Ferguson was No 27, kicked 3 goals and had an influence all day. No 11 is Anderson. (buy a budget )

Sorry you couldn't see much good at all in an opposition.

yes there had been scoring shots to the northern end but unless somneone was holding a fan up against the windsock all day the wind must have been going south.

1- sellar kicking accross goal
2- button kicking to a west player on the outer side
3- button kicking to a west player in the centre of the ground
4- c kane handballing to a west player
5- panozzo kicking straight out of bounds from a kick-in
4 of these produced goals for west adelaide.

the one where hinge was running back and manged to spoil without making contact with ferguson? which as you say rightfully play on

most of kirkbys werent in the forward 50 as he is used as our lead up player so most of them werent within goalscoring range

most of davenports possessions were part of wests merrygo round play whih lead to them tuning the ball over numerously, but yes very good goal

[bayman]

both teams had chances to win & lose it, when west play negative footy (speaking on today) they get beaten comfortably, when they go forward they look ok & somewhat dangerous, they do seem to have a nucleus of a side in the making plus hussein played 2's today, (in no particular order) if willets had kicked straight all year he'd be leading the goalkicking was dangerous (i still think he's a better defender), was good as was caruso,cupido (should be up forward or at worst across the wing),ferguson,anderson, moran & davenport although he was in & out of the game, also in no particular order) for us i thought b.kane,willoughby,allen,meyer,duldig were our better players....i thought the main difference today when it mattered (last term) was when west were in front they tried to save the game & when they got headed they then attacked & got in front & then tried to save it again & got headed again but couldn't get back in front before the siren sounded

[redandblack]

And MAY-Z, most of those turnovers happened in the centre of the ground, except, as I said, Sellar's.

Half the goals kicked in the league come from turnovers in other parts of the ground

A for the breeze, the windsock was sheltered by trees and changed direction all day. I had a few kicks on the ground (not very well) and can guarantee you that it favoured the northern end strongly, as everyone else at the ground could clearly see.

As for Davenport, his first half was great. I think most player's possessions are part of their team's pattern.

Find it in yourself to eke out just a little credit for a good player, even if he doesn't play for Glenelg.

bayman, I don't agree with everything you've said, but it's a pretty fair summing up

[bayman]

yes there had been scoring shots to the northern end but unless somneone was holding a fan up against the windsock all day the wind must have been going south.

[/quote]

may_z my friend listen/read the wind WAS GOING TO THE NORTHERN END, 5rph made the same mistake as you on the radio & rectified it at halftime when one of them came back from being out of the grandstand & it was a 2 & possibly a 3 goal breeze but no more

[redandblack]

Nice quote, bayman, where did I say that

[bayman]

Nice quote, bayman, where did I say that

sorry r&b didn't quite delete the lot, now rectified

[redandblack]

No worries, mate