Round 4: Central vs South Review

[pantherfromwayback]

gillies8 ((I assume you are a dogs supporter) - The panthers are worthy of their place in the SANFL for the two following points (there are many more)

1. We have been around for 88 years longer than your LEAGUE side

1. We have won more premierships than your CLUB.

DO NOT question our place in the SANFL based on recent performances.

9 years ago centrals had NEVER won a league flag - should have the rest of us questioned you place in the SANFL then???

[pantherfromwayback]

yes - I realise I can't count -but now - on to the serious stuff....

[gillies8]

gillies8 ((I assume you are a dogs supporter) - The panthers are worthy of their place in the SANFL for the two following points (there are many more)

1. We have been around for 88 years longer than your LEAGUE side

1. We have won more premierships than your CLUB.

DO NOT question our place in the SANFL based on recent performances.

9 years ago centrals had NEVER won a league flag - should have the rest of us questioned you place in the SANFL then???

At last a bit of passion from South, pity you cant pull on a guernsey for them
Length of time in a comp shouldnt guarentee survival, Fitzroy are proof of that and yes you may have won more premierships but most of them were in the days when players wore hats and knicker bockers.
Seriously though you guys are at the cross roads again!
There seems a complete lack of support out at Noarlunga and it just seems season after season you guys turn out the same uncompetitive stuff. As I say if the Panthers died would anyone care?
It's good to hear someone like yourself sticking up for your club but how many others are out there!

[the big bang]

gillies8 ((I assume you are a dogs supporter) - The panthers are worthy of their place in the SANFL for the two following points (there are many more)

1. We have been around for 88 years longer than your LEAGUE side

1. We have won more premierships than your CLUB.

DO NOT question our place in the SANFL based on recent performances.

9 years ago centrals had NEVER won a league flag - should have the rest of us questioned you place in the SANFL then???

At last a bit of passion from South, pity you cant pull on a guernsey for them
Length of time in a comp shouldnt guarentee survival, Fitzroy are proof of that and yes you may have won more premierships but most of them were in the days when players wore hats and knicker bockers.
Seriously though you guys are at the cross roads again!
There seems a complete lack of support out at Noarlunga and it just seems season after season you guys turn out the same uncompetitive stuff. As I say if the Panthers died would anyone care?
It's good to hear someone like yourself sticking up for your club but how many others are out there!

theres plenty of us out there gillies

[prowling panther]

South are not worthy of fielding a team in the league with this current group.

Note to ABC- stop putting them on the TV because they are not a good advert for our comp!

gillies8 you certainly know your footy dont you.

If you bothered to read the program and this weeks teams, you may have somehow or other noticed that Centrals and South were the only 2 teams drawn to play on Saturday, the other 4 teams played today(Sunday)

Getting back to yesterdays game, South will take a few more hidings this year and possibly next year as well, as they find out which of the younger players will make it in the league, by then the experiance will show and the team will mould itself into a formidable force once again, just remeber one thing, the team we replace in the top four will be yours, so enjoy it while you can

[pantherfromwayback]

a couple of quick replies like that should show how many of us there are out there gillies8 - not sure how that has an impact on yesterdays game though - or our place in the SANFL

[southee]

Im here too..always have been !!!!

[westozfalcon]

I truly hope South can become a competitive outfit.

If you talk to certain people who are involved down there at the moment below the A grade level, they will tell you that things are now on the right track since they got rid of Cahill because he was too "gung ho"

What was he supposed to do? After all, what would John Cahill know about football?

Spot on.

I could never understand why you would appoint a bloke like John Cahill as coach and not do things his way.

It was an opportunity squandered

[scottiemc]

A couple of good things for the panthers, the form of McKernan, he should be getting an afl gig by the end of the year and also the young guys that were dropped to the 2's named in the best. Another note, well done to Tim Boyd getting in the best in the 2's and helping himself to a goal.

[EasyE]

just remeber one thing, the team we replace in the top four will be yours, so enjoy it while you can

Are you serious?

[Sojourner]

South are not worthy of fielding a team in the league with this current group.
They are going no where and have been on the same course ever since I can remember with only fleeting finals appearances in the last 30 years.
Centrals were only average through out the day and yet won by 12 goals. A look at Souths reserves and there wasnt much to get excited about there either.
I dont know what the hell they need to do but if South dropped off the face of the earth would anybody care?
At least they wouldn't waste 2 weeks of my season turning up to watch a completely uncompetitive match.
Dont know what South need to do but something needs to change because they are an embarressment to the comp at present.
Note to ABC- stop putting them on the TV because they are not a good advert for our comp!

What would have happened if in the 1970's-1980s when Central were continually the bottom side that the other SANFL sides routinely scored record wins against, if your advice was applied to the CDFC and taken?

How many ex Central District players from that era would spout the same dribble? Probably not to many I am thinking, If it so happens that Central like Sturt go through a phase and win eight spoons in a row, will you still be there Gilles like The SAFC supporters here are today?

[Grahaml]

Not sure how much you could read into McKernan's performance. No doubt he looked a talent and the crows would be overjoyed at how he went, but given he was destroyed by Griffin for most of the game, especially in the first half I think AFL is a long way off at the moment.

[Grahaml]

Anyway, given Glenelg's performance today, does it look like the dogs are clear front runners at the moment? Especially when you factor in that our skills are far from sharp and the swag of players playing reserves yesterday with league experience (Hadden, Schell, Westhoff, Switala, Cochrane) plus some very promising guys coming through and other guys coming back from injury (Hayes and Goodrem) surely we can only improve. Yet again, the season looks rosy, albeit only a month in of course.

[Grahaml]

As for the future of the SAFC (and what a stupid argument this is becoming) the ONLY reason any of the 9 sides would fall over was if they couldn't be financially viable and the SANFL couldn't afford to prop them up. So long as a club can pay the bills, there will not always be poor sides representing that club. South have made many, many bad decisions, even in the last couple of seasons but that won't always be the case. They'll keep trying like all other clubs and will one day, sooner or later, find a recipe for success.

Past premierships, time in the league mean nothing. But to cut a club would mean not just losing a club but a whole section of the SANFL community. Less people going to games, less people involved in junior programs, less coverage of the regional zones. It's easy to say those people will just jump on board another club, or follow a merged side but reality is not all will. On field performance will never, ever be the telling factor of whether a club survives or not. Neither will past glory.

The example of Fitzroy in the AFL is somewhat apt. They could have gone on to win every game that season and won the flag. But they still wouldn't have survived. Their flags meant nothing. The simple fact is they couldn't pay the bills to keep up, and rather than diminish the entire competition to save one club they had to go. The same will happen to any SANFL club if they need to have the whole comp held back to let them afford to keep up. I hope that never happens but if it does the decision will be made for the benefit of the SANFL, not the CDFC, SAFC or any of the other 7 clubs, and not for the benefit of the 2 AFL clubs. The stronger our coverage of the entire state but mostly the metro area (given the population only) the stronger footy in SA and the stronger the AFL clubs will be as a result.

[StrayDog]

Good post Grahaml.



Sojourner, I accept gillies8's post was, to say the least, a little jagged, however it's a bit over the top to suggest-

.....the 1970's-1980s when Central were continually the bottom side that the other SANFL sides routinely scored record wins against....

I'd be happy to debate any of that elsewhere. Suffice to say the 'Dogs were the best of the League's worst half over that time, including - of course - South.



As for Saturday's game, probably the highlight was South breaking their last quarter record (at Elizabeth), not bad for a side with a dozen (?) players with so few (if any) league starts. Well done.

To that end, the 'Dogs were perhaps on a "hiding to nothing". On one hand, going four hard quarters and winning by 30 goals versus that side would have proved little in the context of the season (yes, okay, percentage is always welcome.) Treat the game as a training run, you get nailed by some of your own fans for not putting in four hard quarters. Having said that, a 20 goal win wasn't beyond reason at one point. Oh well.

On to next week, and the biggest stage of the minor round. Looking forward to seeing a match, and crowd, befitting the day!

[Pseudo]

Anyway, given Glenelg's performance today, does it look like the dogs are clear front runners at the moment?

YES.

[Pseudo]

The example of Fitzroy in the AFL is somewhat apt. They could have gone on to win every game that season and won the flag. But they still wouldn't have survived. Their flags meant nothing. The simple fact is they couldn't pay the bills to keep up, and rather than diminish the entire competition to save one club they had to go.

This is kind of ironic, considering that the only reason the AFL came in to being in the first place was to prop up basket-case loser victorian clubs.

[Pseudo]

.....the 1970's-1980s when Central were continually the bottom side that the other SANFL sides routinely scored record wins against....

I'd be happy to debate any of that elsewhere. Suffice to say the 'Dogs were the best of the League's worst half over that time, including - of course - South.

No. The best performed club of the Little Six (tm) was the Roosters.

(opens deckchair, grabs popcorn...)

[panthers 2008]

Getting two consecutive beltings in a row is not much fun to watch!
We played a heap of youngsters today,and I am sure we will continue to do so for the rest of the season.In my heart I knew we would have to play well to get within 10 goals of the dogs,and we did not so we copped a belting.
The heat was well and truly out of the game when we started to score some goals,but at least they did not totally lay down and die,and if anything we can take that into next weekends clash!
We have some young fellas who should mature into good footballers,and it will take time,but the whole team and the coaching staff has to be accountable for shoddy performances and any loss is not acceptable,and unless the losing culture mentality is shaken out of this club we will forever be rebuilding and going nowhere!!!
The club has placed a 2-5 year time frame on rebuiding,but to be honest every club every year is in some form of rebuilding as it is a continual proccess with players and coaching staff coming and going.
South has had a few bad experiences with getting higher profile recruits who do not have the clubs best interests at heart,so the majority of our recruits this year are lower profile youngsters and some of them are showing they have some real potential.
We have a long season ahead of us and I am sure we will put in alot better performances than we have so far,It is going to be up to some of the more senior players to pull their finger out and bring confidence to the playing group! There are a couple of them who really need a stint in the reserves as they are not contributing jack _hit!!
C'MON PANTHERS,THERE WILL BE NO EXCUSES FOR SUCH A PISS WEAK PERFORMANCE AGAINST THE EAGLES ON "ANZAC DAY"!!!!!

[whufc]

Even tho Central won by 71 points it was in the end a really disappointing effort.

Panthers can hold their heads high why you ask well it was not a bad performance considering 11 of their players have no experience in league footy
4 players 0 games, 1 player 1 game, 5 players 2 games and 1 player 4 games.

Well done panthers.

Very disappointing Doggies you should of smashed them by 20 goals plus.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tough crowd hey, i think it was a very good day for the football club. Started by the reserves having an easy win and a few players coming back from injury playing. Then the league team won even easier, i don't think at league level you should ever expect to win by 20 goals. We got threw the game injury free i think and players such as Sansbury, M.Westoff took their form up a notch. We are top 3-0 what more could you want.