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Re: 2008 National Draft

Postby Mr Butterworth » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:35 pm

whufc wrote:Tyson Slattery of West Adelaide to Essendon with pick no.67


Is this lad related to Henry Slattery at all?
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Re: 2008 National Draft

Postby redandblack » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:38 pm

Mr Butterworth wrote:
whufc wrote:Tyson Slattery of West Adelaide to Essendon with pick no.67


Is this lad related to Henry Slattery at all?


No.

Tyson is the son of Wayne Slattery.
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Re: 2008 National Draft

Postby am Bays » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:24 am

redandblack wrote:To go to a structure that produces 75% of the draftees this year :)


Is it the structure or the population base of Victoria that produces the 75%.....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: 2008 National Draft

Postby whatever » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:20 pm

That is it, without looking up current population structure victoria should produce 62.5% of draftees, this year they produced 58% of draftees if I can remember the figures correctly. (not taking tas, NT, qld or NSW into consideration.)

So for the money and population thrown at their structure this year would have to be a failure.

Also only 4 of the top 10 coming from victoria.
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Re: 2008 National Draft

Postby SimonH » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:51 pm

whatever wrote:That is it, without looking up current population structure victoria should produce 62.5% of draftees, this year they produced 58% of draftees if I can remember the figures correctly. (not taking tas, NT, qld or NSW into consideration.)

So for the money and population thrown at their structure this year would have to be a failure.

Also only 4 of the top 10 coming from victoria.
The % that should expect to be drafted from Vic would be worked out through their number of young males as a proportion of the number of young males who might play footy in Australia (i.e. all of Tas, SA, NT and WA's kids, a middling proportion of ACT youth, relatively small proportion of Qld youth and an even smaller proportion of NSW youth). 62.5% is the proportion of Vic-based clubs in the AFL, which isn't a relevant measure of anything much (apart from confirming that Vic clubs continue to be over-represented in the AFL). The real figure for Vic would be closer to 50%-- maybe a little over.

Victoria's certainly doing okay at getting their fair share of youth into the system. However, because a disproportionate number of clubs and resources are based there, their draft numbers can be a little self-perpetuating especially for the marginal picks lower down the list. The Vic-based recruitment managers are likely to have seen a lot more of chancy Victoria 18yos with potential; but for SA and WA kids, there's a fair chance that if they didn't make the U/18 national champs team, they've never clapped eyes on them.

For all the debate about whether SA clubs should prefer SA kids, the simple fact is that the Pahhhhhr and Crows, as a rule, rate SA talent higher than interstate clubs do: especially for those kids who are in the mix for round 3 of the draft and later. Which is only to be expected.
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Re: 2008 National Draft

Postby whatever » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:00 pm

hmmmm, I didn't realise that that is the % of victorian clubs.

I crudely worked out from my memory bank . Victoria about 5m people, SA 1.5 m, WA 1.5m.

I didn't include the other states because the ratio of footballers to state population is a lot lower or for TAS and NT the population is not large enough to get accurate data.

I personally think the state squads are very poor at identifying talent outside of the obvious. Often the talent is not identified and thus not developed. Hopefully the new under 18 competition will help this. Not so much because of the structure but hopefully it will be a result of more modern coaching techniques being brought to the competition.
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