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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Aerie » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:35 pm

Good on Port for doing this. Hopefully a win-win situation. Would rather see business money spent on the promotion of sport/netball than another home loan company etc.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Brucetiki » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:59 pm

Can anyone, morally, support the Thunderbirds now. I couldn't support another team from Australia so lets see what New Zealand have to offer.

Poor move by the Thunderbirds IMO. I think they can safely shelve the plans to play at the Distinctive Homes Dome now they've alienated 75% of the state.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby am Bays » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:12 pm

Tut tut Brucetiki, they only alienated 2/3rds of teh State. I know who my two daughter will be told her to support when it comes to Netball, anyone playing the thunderbirds.

If you've ever had anything to do with Netball at a state or National level you wouldn't be surprised, Netball adminsitrations are capable of some of the ludicrous and baffling decisions (ohh to give everyone a go well pick a squafd of 14 (instead of 12) as we just can't decide who to leave out)

If you want to see a bitch fest and lack pf reality sit in on an institute of sport netball end of year review, OMG talk about lacking in reality....

Well done NetballSA I'm not surprised at another stupid netball administration decision fancy alligning yourself with a sporting instituion that well over half the State hate with a passion!!!
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby dash61 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:14 pm

Wedgie wrote:North shared clubrooms with a netball team for one season, didn't mind it, even though their presos took up time there was some nice eye candy. :wink:

Back to the main subject at hand, shouldn't Port be putting 200k into football instead of netball? Even if they did play like a mob of netballers against men on Grand Final Day. 119pts wasn't it? :lol:

It has a double negative impact, 1) money that should be going to footy is going to another sport, 2) many people like myself that followed the Thunderbirds for many years will now be looking for a new team.


Would have to agree 95% with wedgies comments, the were stinkers and now they are super stinkers

Further still, last year when Sturts & Norwoods were on the bones of their bums, how would have they felt if their deserved dividend was diverted to a netball team, sorry it is totally wrong
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Macca19 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:09 am

Wedgie wrote:It has a double negative impact, 1) money that should be going to footy is going to another sport,


Id say it would be money from the marketing departments budget, not the football department.

Dont know what I think about it really. Its a different move and will be interesting to see what comes of it. As Aerie said though, at least they are trying something different.

And to those still ranting on about SANFL dividends etc. No matter if both Port and the Crows either make $1 million per year or lose $5 million per year, they pay the same set yearly dividend back to the SANFL, and have done so for 5-6 years now. So for those ranting about 'ooo they are taking it out of the dividend money', they arent.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Macca19 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:16 am

HeartBeatsTrue wrote:The SANFL is gonna stick it to em and not allow any Power listed player to play in the SANFL.

Wouldnt that be sweet if it happened.


Youve lost the plot.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Grahaml » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:51 am

Some people are being shown up for being paranoid and shallow. Not going to support the Thunderbirds because the Power sponsor them? That sounds really grown up and not the slightest bit petty. Honestly, some people have some issues here.

The power are doing this so they can increase their long term financial viability. For those unable to understand the simple course of logic without help, that means they will make more money. If they make more money then they will hopefully pay back that money to the SANFL you seem to be so precious about. Do you have an issue with the Power paying 100% of their salary cap? Or spending money on the football department? Why not kick up a stink because of that? The Power have an obligation to pay the license fee back to the SANFL and there is an agreement to do that in place (and not taking a chunk from the profits anymore from what I understand), but have no obligation beyond the good business practise of posting a profit each year to make money for the SANFL.

There are many ways the SANFL benefit from the Power and Crows being in the AFL, and the dividend is just one tiny part of that.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Booney » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:33 am

Why are you all assuming it is SANFL bound money which is heading to the T-Birds?

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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby JK » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:59 am

redden whites wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:Im lead to believe that through the miracles of creative accounting, the Crows aren't paying the full return to the SANFL clubs either

evidence..............? 1800cheapshot. I find this very hard to believe as the SANFL would have safeguards in place in case by some miracle the Crows were struggling financially .I would think they have representation on boards etc and probably share the same autitors(will happily stand corrected by someone with the facts as I admit to having no idea). I am no Crows fan at all but thought this call very unfair .


Cheap shot it wasn't intended to be, but perhaps shouldn't have made the post without being prepared to pour out the facts, so fair enough
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby CUTTERMAN » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:44 am

1. I would guess that Port would've had to put this past the SANFL?
2. What are the set dividends by both Port and Adelaide given back to the SANFL, if Port, for example is only returning $750,000 and Adelaide $1m then I think that needs to be looked at before Port give money to another sport, maybe Port should look at giving money to a needy SANFL club or local amateur comp.
3. In general terms I think it's a good idea by Port and I'm surprised that Adelaide haven't done the same.
4. Which players did Port send over to play Geelong in the GF?? :shock:
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby HeartBeatsTrue » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:11 am

Macca19 wrote:
HeartBeatsTrue wrote:The SANFL is gonna stick it to em and not allow any Power listed player to play in the SANFL.

Wouldnt that be sweet if it happened.


Youve lost the plot.

Lost the plot!!??
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Macca19 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:54 am

CUTTERMAN wrote:1. I would guess that Port would've had to put this past the SANFL?
2. What are the set dividends by both Port and Adelaide given back to the SANFL, if Port, for example is only returning $750,000 and Adelaide $1m then I think that needs to be looked at before Port give money to another sport, maybe Port should look at giving money to a needy SANFL club or local amateur comp.
3. In general terms I think it's a good idea by Port and I'm surprised that Adelaide haven't done the same.
4. Which players did Port send over to play Geelong in the GF?? :shock:


1. Maybe, maybe not. I think if Port want to spend 200k of their marketing budget on sponsoring another sporting team then I dont think its the SANFLs prerogative to say yay or nay.

2. From memory, the Crows are paying back approx $600k and Port were paying back approx $260k per year for the past 5-6 years. This is a set figure agreed to by the SANFL. I am of the understanding that Ports figure will go up this year because they have paid off the AFL Licence fee now. Probably to $450k or thereabouts.

I think its an interesting idea. Im not sure exactly what both clubs will get out of it but its something different and Port are trying hard to both create new income streams and create new marketing initiatives. Theyve had BHP Billiton come on board to support the Power Community Youth Program, theyve just won a National award for their 'design a jumper' competition, theyve created a player development academy, the whole Planet Teal kids campaign and are now sponsoring a state netball team. Cant say they arent trying.
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What I do find amusing though is all these people who bag us, boo us, laugh at us, hate us, hope the club fails etc. but then are more than happy for their club to stick their hand out at the end of the year and recieve money...and then get shitty about it not being enough and are on edge because of some made up thought that Port are using the dividend money to do other things etc.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Punk Rooster » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:18 pm

this whole thread is just a Powerstorm in a T'Cup!
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby StrayDog » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:54 pm

Punk Rooster wrote:this whole thread is just a Powerstorm in a T'Cup!

Nice one, Punky! :)
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby RustyCage » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:11 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote: maybe Port should look at giving money to a needy SANFL club or local amateur comp.


Maybe the SANFL should be putting more money into the SANFL teams instead of putting so much money into the Crows facilities, ie allowing the Crows to use Max Basheer Reserve rent free, or paying overheads for the Crows Shed. Maybe the Crows can use some of their large yearly profit to support themselves instead of the SANFL doing it.

Also, I laugh at the morons who think Port arent giving money back to the SANFL each year, including someof you so called experts.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby FlyingHigh » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:50 pm

I don't care about the $$'s issue, just don't like it.

It is just another way the Power are trying to distance themselves from the old "Port" and its ramifications and make themselves accessible to a wider SA market. Probably a smart marketing move with benefits in 5-10 years time, but personally the Thunderbirds have lost me too.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Wedgie » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:56 pm

This might sound crazy and will never happen but I'd love to see them putting 200k per year into the Magpies not the Thunderbirds as the Magpies probably need it more and it would help even up the comp a bit.
As I said, it would never happen though.
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Dog_ger » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:59 pm

I am disapointed in the oppinion of SAFOOTYers.....

Why are you all against any thing from PORT...?

Why are you against any thing new...?

I am for South Australia...!
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It's only Money $$$ :)

What is happening to our SANFL guys...
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby FlyingHigh » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:00 pm

Wedgie wrote:This might sound crazy and will never happen but I'd love to see them putting 200k per year into the Magpies not the Thunderbirds as the Magpies probably need it more and it would help even up the comp a bit.
As I said, it would never happen though.


True, given the position the Maggies find themselves in at the moment, but didn't they put in place certain restrictions when the Power entered because everyone was afraid the Power money would go back into making the Maggies even stronger at SANFL level?
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Re: Power sponsorship of T'Birds

Postby Thiele » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:06 pm

West Adelaide also sponsors the Wood Panthersin the local netball league
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