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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby redden whites » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:45 pm

Serious question...............Just what are Centrals doing at managment level that everyone else isn't doing ?
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby JK » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:47 pm

redden whites wrote:Serious question...............Just what are Centrals doing at managment level that everyone else isn't doing ?


I don't think this is the sole, or possibly even major reason, but I think the Dog's embrace their community better than any other club.

Probably only those Doggies fans with a fair knowledge of how their inner sanctum operates could answer this question, and if I were them, I wouldn't be parting with too much information.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby redden whites » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:52 pm

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redden whites wrote:Serious question...............Just what are Centrals doing at managment level that everyone else isn't doing ?


I don't think this is the sole, or possibly even major reason, but I think the Dog's embrace their community better than any other club.

Probably only those Doggies fans with a fair knowledge of how their inner sanctum operates could answer this question, and if I were them, I wouldn't be parting with too much information.


Again serious question....... I keep hearing that also but was is it?Listening to radio on the way home after game and heard "they have done so much for the community out there" given the lack of SANFL stuff in the media and me living south of town I was wondering what it is? Do they fund scholarships or something along those lines?
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Grahaml » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:59 pm

If you buy a membership we'll let you in on the secret then.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:02 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
redden whites wrote:Serious question...............Just what are Centrals doing at managment level that everyone else isn't doing ?


I don't think this is the sole, or possibly even major reason, but I think the Dog's embrace their community better than any other club.


I've suggested this previously, but interestingly got howled down...
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby JK » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:10 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:
redden whites wrote:Serious question...............Just what are Centrals doing at managment level that everyone else isn't doing ?


I don't think this is the sole, or possibly even major reason, but I think the Dog's embrace their community better than any other club.


I've suggested this previously, but interestingly got howled down...


I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on why this might not be the case ... I can only run with what I see as perceived differences between my club and what I see of the Dog's as an outsider, and for mine this + finances are the major differences (granted there would be several more).

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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:26 pm

CP - interestingly it was a Norwood supporter who derided my comment. lol
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby JK » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:38 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:CP - interestingly it was a Norwood supporter who derided my comment. lol


Fair Dinkum??? :shock: I shouldn't be surprised really :?
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby mick » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:48 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:
redden whites wrote:Serious question...............Just what are Centrals doing at managment level that everyone else isn't doing ?


I don't think this is the sole, or possibly even major reason, but I think the Dog's embrace their community better than any other club.


I've suggested this previously, but interestingly got howled down...


I'd be interested to hear others thoughts on why this might not be the case ... I can only run with what I see as perceived differences between my club and what I see of the Dog's as an outsider, and for mine this + finances are the major differences (granted there would be several more).

Graham - I'd buy a membership at CDFC today if it unlocked all the secrets :wink:


Is it the old "working class, battler" solidarity thing? without trying to be disrespectful Elizabeth and environs is not an affluent area, and has more than it's fair share of social problems. Maybe the relationship of people with the club gives them something to be really proud of, and benefits both. Port Adelaide used to be a similar sort of place, but has over the last decade or so become more affluent, new developments down there aimed squarely at yuppies. It would be interesting to see whether there is a relationship between poorer areas and pretty good sports teams? Enough raving :wink:
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Dog_ger » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:49 pm

Wedgie wrote:As a supporter of the best football club in Australia I can say quite convincingly that the 17th best football club in Australia wouldn't get close to the 16th best football club in Australia. :D
Dogs versus Geelong's Reserves that won the VFL would be a good game though.


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Maybe a carnival or the best of the best from each state. No AFL of course.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Wedgie » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:53 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:
redden whites wrote:Serious question...............Just what are Centrals doing at managment level that everyone else isn't doing ?


I don't think this is the sole, or possibly even major reason, but I think the Dog's embrace their community better than any other club.


I've suggested this previously, but interestingly got howled down...


I'm interested on who howled you down, I think its an unmitigated fact.

I think there's a number of contributing factors too in that lower class areas have always been more embracing back to their clubs as it gives them a sense of pride which they might normally never have. I think its a fairly young community out there compared to some club's areas too which helps.
South are trying to replicate it but I think the demographics despite having similarities are a lot different and I'm not sure if it will work but at least they're trying hard.
Club's like Glenelg, the Eagles, North, Norwood, Sturt, etc, etc do their best to try and embrace their community but I don't think a lot of it is reciprocated and the inner clubs have to look at different methods and issues as their fan base is a lot more wide spread.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Grahaml » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:56 pm

The reasons are actually remarkably simple, IMHO. And luckily for us the other clubs could very easily identify them and try to emulate them, but don't seem to.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Wedgie » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:57 pm

Grahaml wrote:The reasons are actually remarkably simple, IMHO. And luckily for us the other clubs could very easily identify them and try to emulate them, but don't seem to.

And they are?
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:22 pm

Nope. It's our secret.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby smac » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:24 pm

Seriously, I've only got snippets and inklings of some of the 'real' stuff down there. The succession planning is outstanding, so we can all be assured that it will continue for many years.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby giffo » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:53 pm

I think that part of the success is how they deal with their junior supporters. When my lad was mascot for the day two yrs ago, he kept his guernsey that was numbered for him and then signed by Schell. This year he was picked out of the crowd and presented with Slades match guernsey after the game in the rooms. When then organised to get it signed at a later date. Nothing was too much trouble for the club or players.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby CENTURION » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:56 pm

Grahaml wrote:The reasons are actually remarkably simple, IMHO. And luckily for us the other clubs could very easily identify them and try to emulate them, but don't seem to.


The players love & respect each other but a HUGE factor is that they are ALL true friends & will do anything for each other-the bond is massive.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Hondo » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:37 pm

Great business management also expands the coffers and allows for recruiting and facilties

They just seem to do it very well all round - I have said it before they are a credit to the SANFL
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby doggies4eva » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:52 pm

I don't think that there is one easy answer but I think the location of Centrals in an area that can relate to them and the clubs understanding of that cooumity is one factor. For this reason I think that South are on the right track but they have tried to buy short term success by recruiting "name" imports rather than having the core of the club as locals and selectively recruiting the right people where there are gaps. I think that the location of many of the "old" clubs in localities that were more fitting 50 or 100 years ago is their downfall. Norwood need not only to have pokies in their zone but to embrace the local culture as well. Time will tell if this is possible. I feel that too many clubs are still in 1900s mentality.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby once_were_warriors » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:54 pm

doggies4eva wrote:I don't think that there is one easy answer but I think the location of Centrals in an area that can relate to them and the clubs understanding of that cooumity is one factor. For this reason I think that South are on the right track but they have tried to buy short term success by recruiting "name" imports rather than having the core of the club as locals and selectively recruiting the right people where there are gaps. I think that the location of many of the "old" clubs in localities that were more fitting 50 or 100 years ago is their downfall. Norwood need not only to have pokies in their zone but to embrace the local culture as well. Time will tell if this is possible. I feel that too many clubs are still in 1900s mentality.



I think Norwood have embraced their culture well , sitting on their backsides , drinking latte and watching the world go by.
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