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Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:20 am
by DOC
Hamish Hartlett reveals his complete lack of understanding about what our clubs are playing for this year. Hint. It's not so players can be used by other clubs to help them and destroy their actual clubs chances.



A former Port Adelaide star has backed the idea of state-league footballers covering mass coronavirus absences in the AFL, saying SANFL players will view it as a huge opportunity.

The AFL has discussed creating a pool of second-tier talent to help Covid-hit clubs fill sides this year and ex-Power vice-captain Hamish Hartlett will put his hand up if it goes ahead.

Hartlett, who played 193 games for the Power, returned to his junior team West Adelaide after being delisted in September.

The 31-year-old said a Covid replacement pool would provide another avenue for state-league players to realise their AFL dreams, which was good for the game.

“I’d say it would be unlikely for anyone to really require top-up players but who knows what can happen, Covid spreads very, very quickly,” Hartlett told News Corp.

“Anyone that considers themselves good enough to play at AFL level should be going in with a really open mind this season because as we’ve seen in other competitions in various other sports, opportunities can arise from nowhere, so you need to be prepared for that.

“The reality is there’s a lot of guys running around the SANFL who grew up with the dream of wanting to play AFL football.

“That’s not going to be a reality for everyone to be able to do that but if there’s a glimmer of hope that’s a chance of happening, I think any SANFL player would jump at that opportunity.

“My main focus at the moment is keeping fit, staying fit and playing good football with West Adelaide, but with the right preparation under my belt to be able to perform at AFL level should that call come.

“Clearly there’d be some logistics to work through from the lower levels with the AFL about how they’re likely going to be compensated or with other players.”

Hartlett believed each SANFL club had at least two or three players capable of filling holes on AFL lists.

“They’re not going to go out and play in the midfield and dominate – I don’t think anyone’s expecting that to happen,” he said.

“But it might mean being thrown in a back pocket or forward pocket, or on a wing and getting to play a pretty basic and general role.”

Hartlett, who had an injury-hampered 2021, would relish another AFL chance.

But he said seeing young players receive an opportunity out of the blue was more exciting.

“Having stepped out of the (AFL) system for a pretty short period of time, you kind of understand how good it is and enjoyable it is to be involved and how privileged you are to play in those types of games,” he said.

Hartlett said having five or six players plucked mid-year to join an AFL pool would be a good look for the SANFL.

“Is it fair on the clubs individually? Probably not,” he said.

“But on the same token, I think clubs would be super encouraging of their players to get that opportunity.

“It’s something (SANFL) clubs, even now, will have to start wrapping their heads around.”

Hartlett said building squad depth would help state-league clubs handle losing quality players during the minor round.

Even if a top-up pool was not introduced, state-league stars like Hartlett could be recruited in the mid-season rookie draft.

“I’ll try to play good footy at the start of the year and we’ll see where things go from there,” he said.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:44 am
by whybother
This is why I get rather sad when "good" SANFL players get "promoted" to the AFL to end up playing a fringe role, or in the VFL. The SANFL club officials all seem keen on them going, all for the players good I suppose, but never seem to reflect on how it affects their own planning etc for their club's season.

Their attitude cements the idea that the SANFL is a second tier comp, with the purpose of propping up the AFL.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:16 am
by Backman
Hamish might have a different view if Westies are battling for a finals spot and West lose a couple of players to the top up pool, but he is left in the SANFL
This will be the reality for 99% of SANFL players!!

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:31 pm
by Dutchy
whybother wrote:This is why I get rather sad when "good" SANFL players get "promoted" to the AFL to end up playing a fringe role, or in the VFL. The SANFL club officials all seem keen on them going, all for the players good I suppose, but never seem to reflect on how it affects their own planning etc for their club's season.

Their attitude cements the idea that the SANFL is a second tier comp, with the purpose of propping up the AFL.


Its a pretty old school view - imagine if the comp wasn't seen as an avenue to the AFL, we would have no recruits and it would be around Div 1 Ammo standard, being a genuine pathway to the AFL helps the comp more than it hinders it IMO.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:06 pm
by am Bays
DOC wrote:Hamish Hartlett reveals his complete lack of understanding about what our clubs are playing for this year. Hint. It's not so players can be used by other clubs to help them and destroy their actual clubs chances.



A former Port Adelaide star has backed the idea of state-league footballers covering mass coronavirus absences in the AFL, saying SANFL players will view it as a huge opportunity.

The AFL has discussed creating a pool of second-tier talent to help Covid-hit clubs fill sides this year and ex-Power vice-captain Hamish Hartlett will put his hand up if it goes ahead.

Hartlett, who played 193 games for the Power, returned to his junior team West Adelaide after being delisted in September.

The 31-year-old said a Covid replacement pool would provide another avenue for state-league players to realise their AFL dreams, which was good for the game.

“I’d say it would be unlikely for anyone to really require top-up players but who knows what can happen, Covid spreads very, very quickly,” Hartlett told News Corp.

“Anyone that considers themselves good enough to play at AFL level should be going in with a really open mind this season because as we’ve seen in other competitions in various other sports, opportunities can arise from nowhere, so you need to be prepared for that.

“The reality is there’s a lot of guys running around the SANFL who grew up with the dream of wanting to play AFL football.

“That’s not going to be a reality for everyone to be able to do that but if there’s a glimmer of hope that’s a chance of happening, I think any SANFL player would jump at that opportunity.

“My main focus at the moment is keeping fit, staying fit and playing good football with West Adelaide, but with the right preparation under my belt to be able to perform at AFL level should that call come.

“Clearly there’d be some logistics to work through from the lower levels with the AFL about how they’re likely going to be compensated or with other players.”

Hartlett believed each SANFL club had at least two or three players capable of filling holes on AFL lists.

“They’re not going to go out and play in the midfield and dominate – I don’t think anyone’s expecting that to happen,” he said.

“But it might mean being thrown in a back pocket or forward pocket, or on a wing and getting to play a pretty basic and general role.”

Hartlett, who had an injury-hampered 2021, would relish another AFL chance.

But he said seeing young players receive an opportunity out of the blue was more exciting.

“Having stepped out of the (AFL) system for a pretty short period of time, you kind of understand how good it is and enjoyable it is to be involved and how privileged you are to play in those types of games,” he said.

Hartlett said having five or six players plucked mid-year to join an AFL pool would be a good look for the SANFL.

“Is it fair on the clubs individually? Probably not,” he said.

“But on the same token, I think clubs would be super encouraging of their players to get that opportunity.

“It’s something (SANFL) clubs, even now, will have to start wrapping their heads around.”

Hartlett said building squad depth would help state-league clubs handle losing quality players during the minor round.

Even if a top-up pool was not introduced, state-league stars like Hartlett could be recruited in the mid-season rookie draft.

“I’ll try to play good footy at the start of the year and we’ll see where things go from there,” he said.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:17 pm
by Dogs64
whybother wrote:This is why I get rather sad when "good" SANFL players get "promoted" to the AFL to end up playing a fringe role, or in the VFL. The SANFL club officials all seem keen on them going, all for the players good I suppose, but never seem to reflect on how it affects their own planning etc for their club's season.

Their attitude cements the idea that the SANFL is a second tier comp, with the purpose of propping up the AFL.


There used to be a player retention scheme established by the SANFL to retain players potentially good enough to play in the VFL. It was utilised to try to maintain a good standard in the SANFL. Then clubs didn't want to lose players to the VFL (though it was considered a "better" standard), and that was at the start of a year not half way through. Half way through the year can completely destabilise a club and its finals hopes, thus also impacting the bottom line. The people that care about the SANFL, care about their clubs performance predominantly, selfish or not they're probably not that excited about a key player being lost to the AFL (particularly part way through a season).

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:43 pm
by whufc
Backman wrote:Hamish might have a different view if Westies are battling for a finals spot and West lose a couple of players to the top up pool, but he is left in the SANFL
This will be the reality for 99% of SANFL players!!


My mail is if by June Hamish doesn’t believe he could get on an AFL list he will most likely be seen at Eudunda /Robertsown with his brother and Chris Schmidt.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:25 pm
by Pseudo
A recent ex-AFL being used to spruik propaganda by the local media in direct service of the AFL.

Business as normal. Move on, nothing novel to see here.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:06 pm
by Dutchy
whufc wrote:
Backman wrote:Hamish might have a different view if Westies are battling for a finals spot and West lose a couple of players to the top up pool, but he is left in the SANFL
This will be the reality for 99% of SANFL players!!


My mail is if by June Hamish doesn’t believe he could get on an AFL list he will most likely be seen at Eudunda /Robertsown with his brother and Chris Schmidt.


Adam? he is assistant at West, so he will leave also?

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:31 pm
by whufc
Dutchy wrote:
whufc wrote:
Backman wrote:Hamish might have a different view if Westies are battling for a finals spot and West lose a couple of players to the top up pool, but he is left in the SANFL
This will be the reality for 99% of SANFL players!!


My mail is if by June Hamish doesn’t believe he could get on an AFL list he will most likely be seen at Eudunda /Robertsown with his brother and Chris Schmidt.


Adam? he is assistant at West, so he will leave also?


His signed to play for Eudunda as well already when time allows.

Eudunda have left a shit load of points on the table as it stands right now and potential cap space so believe there is a solid foundation in the rumour.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:13 am
by Dutchy
Not sure he will leave his job to go play country footy with mates

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:49 am
by Brodlach
Dutchy wrote:
whufc wrote:
Backman wrote:Hamish might have a different view if Westies are battling for a finals spot and West lose a couple of players to the top up pool, but he is left in the SANFL
This will be the reality for 99% of SANFL players!!


My mail is if by June Hamish doesn’t believe he could get on an AFL list he will most likely be seen at Eudunda /Robertsown with his brother and Chris Schmidt.


Adam? he is assistant at West, so he will leave also?

Adam will only play when West doesn’t have a game, same as he has done for the past two years


I doubt Hamish will quit his job to play half a season in the country, hearing he really enjoys his job

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:15 am
by jet-airport
Gday all,

For the Russell Ebert game in Loxton will a standard SANFL pass get us into this game?
I'm Not a Port or West Member, what will crowd be capped at we think?.

Cheers

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:15 pm
by DOC
jet-airport wrote:Gday all,

For the Russell Ebert game in Loxton will a standard SANFL pass get us into this game?
I'm Not a Port or West Member, what will crowd be capped at we think?.

Cheers


I am not sure what a standard SANFL pass is.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:30 pm
by Spargo
DOC wrote:
jet-airport wrote:Gday all,

For the Russell Ebert game in Loxton will a standard SANFL pass get us into this game?
I'm Not a Port or West Member, what will crowd be capped at we think?.

Cheers


I am not sure what a standard SANFL pass is.

One below the premium pass.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:31 pm
by tkr
jet-airport wrote:Gday all,

For the Russell Ebert game in Loxton will a standard SANFL pass get us into this game?
I'm Not a Port or West Member, what will crowd be capped at we think?.

Cheers


From what I have been told if you have a Westies home game pass or a Port season pass they will get you in.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:27 am
by jet-airport
tkr wrote:
jet-airport wrote:Gday all,

For the Russell Ebert game in Loxton will a standard SANFL pass get us into this game?
I'm Not a Port or West Member, what will crowd be capped at we think?.

Cheers


From what I have been told if you have a Westies home game pass or a Port season pass they will get you in.



Cheers! All

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:59 pm
by PatowalongaPirate
Glenelg have extended Brett Hand's contract until end of 2023.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:01 am
by bulldogproud
PatowalongaPirate wrote:Glenelg have extended Brett Hand's contract until end of 2023.


That is Handy; I bet the extension didn't cost an arm and a leg either.

Re: SANFL 2022 Season

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:51 am
by gazzamagoo
bulldogproud wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:Glenelg have extended Brett Hand's contract until end of 2023.


That is Handy; I bet the extension didn't cost an arm and a leg either.

He's sure to make a fist of it too.