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Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:32 am
by whufc
Lol at people who believe its about honouring their heritage, move back to ao etc etc

Clearly just a marketing ploy and attempt at getting one over the power, and trying to bang home the team for south australian brand (which has taken a beating in the last 12 months)

Disgrace.

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:34 am
by D14
Booney wrote:Port Adelaide's heritage jumpers have been based on jumpers worn by the CLUB in the past.

Adelaide's heritage jumpers are a mix and match of anything they feel gives them a noteworthy heritage.

I'm glad you highlighted that.

Why can't Adelaide just accept their heritage is from 1990 with Camry on the back?

What it shows is that the crows acknowledge the State and SANFL while Port acknowledge Port. Which is why the Crows can wear the jumper and Port can't.

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:35 am
by D14
Booney wrote:Port Adelaide's heritage jumpers have been based on jumpers worn by the CLUB in the past.

Adelaide's heritage jumpers are a mix and match of anything they feel gives them a noteworthy heritage.

I'm glad you highlighted that.

Why can't Adelaide just accept their heritage is from 1990 with Camry on the back?

They do, only with the SANFL and State on their back.

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:36 am
by HH3
D14 wrote:
Booney wrote:Port Adelaide's heritage jumpers have been based on jumpers worn by the CLUB in the past.

Adelaide's heritage jumpers are a mix and match of anything they feel gives them a noteworthy heritage.

I'm glad you highlighted that.

Why can't Adelaide just accept their heritage is from 1990 with Camry on the back?

What it shows is that the crows acknowledge the State and SANFL while Port acknowledge Port. Which is why the Crows can wear the jumper and Port can't.


No it shows they are trying to latch onto the SANFLs history, when really, they are just an expansion team, not unlike GWS.

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:38 am
by D14
HH3 wrote:
D14 wrote:
Booney wrote:Port Adelaide's heritage jumpers have been based on jumpers worn by the CLUB in the past.

Adelaide's heritage jumpers are a mix and match of anything they feel gives them a noteworthy heritage.

I'm glad you highlighted that.

Why can't Adelaide just accept their heritage is from 1990 with Camry on the back?

What it shows is that the crows acknowledge the State and SANFL while Port acknowledge Port. Which is why the Crows can wear the jumper and Port can't.


No it shows they are trying to latch onto the SANFLs history, when really, they are just an expansion team, not unlike GWS.

Give me a break. They were built from players from all SANFL clubs.

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:39 am
by areaman
Ecky wrote:This decision is yet another example (that was so obvious during the reserves debate) of the arrogance and narrow-mindedness of the Crows and the SANFL Commission who must really believe that football in SA = the Crows and are unable to see things from the perspective of anyone else.

Rivalries in sport should be built from respect on the field, not from childish games (which is what this really is) which are just designed to antagonise the opponent.

But before Port supporters get on their high horse, the catalyst for this is still the dirty games Port played in 1990 which Whicker and co have never forgiven them for, and hence the petty games just keep continuing. The real loser in it all is football in SA as both sides rarely act in what is the true best interests of SA football.

Couldn't agree more with this. Both Crows & Port do what is in their own interests and then reverse engineer an argument to try to convince the public they give a toss about the greater good.

Basically the AFL and all it's clubs (don't just single out Crows & Port) are arrogant and lost touch with the average punter years ago.

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:39 am
by whufc
HH3 wrote:
D14 wrote:
Booney wrote:Port Adelaide's heritage jumpers have been based on jumpers worn by the CLUB in the past.

Adelaide's heritage jumpers are a mix and match of anything they feel gives them a noteworthy heritage.

I'm glad you highlighted that.

Why can't Adelaide just accept their heritage is from 1990 with Camry on the back?

What it shows is that the crows acknowledge the State and SANFL while Port acknowledge Port. Which is why the Crows can wear the jumper and Port can't.


No it shows they are trying to latch onto the SANFLs history, when really, they are just an expansion team, not unlike GWS.


I think you mean expansion FRANCHISE

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:39 am
by woodublieve12
I've heard it's Kurt Tippetts fault

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:41 am
by whufc
D14 wrote:
HH3 wrote:
D14 wrote:
Booney wrote:Port Adelaide's heritage jumpers have been based on jumpers worn by the CLUB in the past.

Adelaide's heritage jumpers are a mix and match of anything they feel gives them a noteworthy heritage.

I'm glad you highlighted that.

Why can't Adelaide just accept their heritage is from 1990 with Camry on the back?

What it shows is that the crows acknowledge the State and SANFL while Port acknowledge Port. Which is why the Crows can wear the jumper and Port can't.


No it shows they are trying to latch onto the SANFLs history, when really, they are just an expansion team, not unlike GWS.

Give me a break. They were built from players from all SANFL clubs.


And interstate footballers as well

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:42 am
by scoob
I like how putting a fake old style logo and some old text on a guernsey gives it heritage & history.

Adelaide "let's claim someone elses history" Crows

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:43 am
by mighty_tiger_79
if the crows are the team built from the SANFL clubs which is what they are trying to say, then why is there no black or white in the guernsey??

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:45 am
by whufc
areaman wrote:
Ecky wrote:This decision is yet another example (that was so obvious during the reserves debate) of the arrogance and narrow-mindedness of the Crows and the SANFL Commission who must really believe that football in SA = the Crows and are unable to see things from the perspective of anyone else.

Rivalries in sport should be built from respect on the field, not from childish games (which is what this really is) which are just designed to antagonise the opponent.

But before Port supporters get on their high horse, the catalyst for this is still the dirty games Port played in 1990 which Whicker and co have never forgiven them for, and hence the petty games just keep continuing. The real loser in it all is football in SA as both sides rarely act in what is the true best interests of SA football.

Couldn't agree more with this. Both Crows & Port do what is in their own interests and then reverse engineer an argument to try to convince the public they give a toss about the greater good.

Basically the AFL and all it's clubs (don't just single out Crows & Port) are arrogant and lost touch with the average punter years ago.


Agree the average punter has never been distances further from the game than the afl presently

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:49 am
by Panther Pack
What really jerks my chain in the Crows saying they represent the whole state.

Haven't we already established that Willunga is South's turf!!!!!

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:50 am
by mal
1991-2014 Adelaide Crows
1997-2014 Port Power
Both playing in a AFL Competition


Would make more sense to me if either club wanted to wear the BIG V jumper

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:50 am
by superlative steve
Not sure if its been mentioned earlier but the guernsey is the exact design as the Powers, just with the Crows colours

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:52 am
by Ecky
whufc wrote:Agree the educated average punter has never been distanced further from the game than the afl presently

I'll just correct that for you whufc ;)
There are unfortunately plenty of idiots out there who can't see through all the propaganda and lap all the garbage up that they dish out (and will go and buy these replica guernseys, justifying their decision), which is why they ultimately don't give a stuff what we think.

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:55 am
by Panther Pack
Ecky wrote:
whufc wrote:Agree the educated average punter has never been distanced further from the game than the afl presently

I'll just correct that for you whufc ;)
There are unfortunately plenty of idiots out there who can't see through all the propaganda and lap all the garbage up that they dish out (and will go and buy these replica guernseys, justifying their decision), which is why they ultimately don't give a stuff what we think.


Surely these people understand who Willunga belongs to though????

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:08 am
by whufc
Mainly aimed at the Crows fans

But would it be fair to see the majority of south australian football fans don't support the crows, when you take into account power supporters, interstate afl clubs supporters, SANFL ammo country fans who don't follow or support a side in the afl

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:16 am
by HH3
whufc wrote:Mainly aimed at the Crows fans

But would it be fair to see the majority of south australian football fans don't support the crows, when you take into account power supporters, interstate afl clubs supporters, SANFL ammo country fans who don't follow or support a side in the afl


I think you may be correct.

Re: Crows Disgrace

PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:25 am
by Psyber
Neither AFL team has any right to cling to an SANFL history. It is all just marketing hype in both cases.
The Crows were invented in 1990, and the Power has only a tenuous clam to the history of the Magpies whom they have attempted to rob of their heritage by sly use of technical paper work regarding registrations and name changes.