Tasmania or NT side to be 10th team in SANFL?

[spell_check]

Who knows what the future holds. Perhaps with the insane increases on the cost of oil the AFL will get scrapped owing to ballooning travel costs and the whole thing will go back to a VFL, a WAFL and an SANFL with 10 teams and one West Torrens and a seperate Woodville.

That's your dream scenario. Sojourner's dream scenario is a team in the TTG area. I know someone else wants one in Mount Barker. Dan the Man wants one in the Barossa. If you want to the reduce the standard of the SANFL, pending two more new AFL teams to weaken even further, go for it.

You haven't understood what I wrote Spelly. If the AFL was scrapped the SANFL would strengthen, wouldn't it? There would also be no new teams to enter the AFL because it wouldn't exist.
I don't know how my above supposition would end up weakening the SANFL.

Clearly the AFL will do no favours for a interstate team in this comp. So obviously everyone who thinks that the SANFL is "broken" is placing it squarely on the bye.

Wrong again, my main hope is that an interstate side would incease exposure for the SANFL.
The other thing I like about it is that it brings more supporters to the league.
And I am one that thinks the SANFL is broken.
I do agree with you that the AFL will do us no favours, but I don't think that is fair reason to throw in the towel.

People wishing for a new side to be introduced from within SA are forgetting that this would spread the same population amongst more clubs. I couldn't see a new side from within SA competing for a viable supporter base when they would be lacking the history of the other 9 clubs. At least introducing a Crows reserves side could possibly draw off a few AFL fans that are interested in the magoos, and hence introduce extra supporters to the league. Though that is just a theory. I have more faith in an interstate side.

As I said, I wouldn't mind an interstate team, on those two provisos. I can't see the AFL folding, so the SANFL will have to go it alone to admit an interstate club. Or get government funding to support one. There's a reason why the SANFL does not look into a 10th metro, or that matter a country team - they remember the calls to reduce the number of clubs in the 70s and 80s.

[scarlet pimpernel]

If we are passionate about our clubs then the answer has to be the status quo, ie no new teams introduced to the SANFL.
I do not want to have to go to Darwin or Tasmania to be able to watch my team play football each week. Leave that for the AFL where all games are telecast so that all supporters of a club have access to seeing their team play.
Personally I like the bye. It allows players to freshen up, and indeed there is more to life than watching football, well maybe.
My preference is for the nine team competition to remain. Definately I would like to see the eight long standing traditional clubs of the SANFL to remain although I still have not fully accepted Central Districts yet. I have no interest or respect of newly formed clubs with no history and no culture like Woodville- West Torrens, Adelaide Crows or Port Adelaide Power. The Eagles should become the crows reserve side and perhaps a new Port Power reserves side introduced in the SANFL but an eight team competition would be better for quality and with 20 rounds played for each club

[Psyber]

None of them will happen:

Darwin to $$$$$
Alice too small a market unless they include matches in Darwin....
Tassie: they want to play in VIC, we are being used as pawns...

TassieM and I agree!

[once_were_warriors]

If we are passionate about our clubs then the answer has to be the status quo, ie no new teams introduced to the SANFL.
I do not want to have to go to Darwin or Tasmania to be able to watch my team play football each week. Leave that for the AFL where all games are telecast so that all supporters of a club have access to seeing their team play.
Personally I like the bye. It allows players to freshen up, and indeed there is more to life than watching football, well maybe.
My preference is for the nine team competition to remain. Definately I would like to see the eight long standing traditional clubs of the SANFL to remain although I still have not fully accepted Central Districts yet. I have no interest or respect of newly formed clubs with no history and no culture like Woodville- West Torrens, Adelaide Crows or Port Adelaide Power. The Eagles should become the crows reserve side and perhaps a new Port Power reserves side introduced in the SANFL but an eight team competition would be better for quality and with 20 rounds played for each club

Well you can go and shove that silver spoon up ya clacker, Central and WWT have as much right in the SANFL as a club that plays in a park surrounded by temporary fencing on the odd weekend

Stupid comment.

[smac]

If we are passionate about our clubs then the answer has to be the status quo, ie no new teams introduced to the SANFL.
I do not want to have to go to Darwin or Tasmania to be able to watch my team play football each week. Leave that for the AFL where all games are telecast so that all supporters of a club have access to seeing their team play.
Personally I like the bye. It allows players to freshen up, and indeed there is more to life than watching football, well maybe.
My preference is for the nine team competition to remain. Definately I would like to see the eight long standing traditional clubs of the SANFL to remain although I still have not fully accepted Central Districts yet. I have no interest or respect of newly formed clubs with no history and no culture like Woodville- West Torrens, Adelaide Crows or Port Adelaide Power. The Eagles should become the crows reserve side and perhaps a new Port Power reserves side introduced in the SANFL but an eight team competition would be better for quality and with 20 rounds played for each club

My ex-wife moves on quicker than you... Centrals have been around in league ranks for 44 years now, about time to come to grips I reckon.

[Psyber]

I doubt if either Tassie or NT want to join the SANFL. It has been talked about for years but never happens, and there is not the money in the league to cover that much travel.

If there were going to be 10 teams, how about adding a team from the Barossa?
[And relocating Westies to Streaky Bay or Pt Lincoln? ]

[Dogsbody]

NT team based in Darwin for me thanks.

NT State and Federal Governments have apparently already committed funds if this goes ahead, as has the AFL. Forget Alice Springs, TIO Stadium is a far better place for SANFL football to be played and Darwin's a nice place to wander around in.

[Wedgie]

MEDIA RELEASE:

SANFL’S POSITION REGARDING AFLNT PROPOSAL

At a joint meeting of the SANFL League Directors and SA Football Commission on Monday night 19 May, it was determined that unresolved issues prevented the SANFL in accepting the AFLNT proposal to enter a team in the SANFL League competition in 2009.

SANFL Executive Commissioner Leigh Whicker said the AFLNT’s proposal was an exciting proposition worthy of serious consideration.

“Following a comprehensive review of the proposal a number of matters remain unresolved, particularly in relation to finance, player concessions and team competitiveness. The League Directors and the Commission are unanimous however that the doors would remain open in 2010 should such matters be satisfactorily addressed,” said Mr Whicker.

The SANFL League Directors determined that any entry into the SANFL in the future would be conditional upon the tenth team’s long term financial sustainability and its agreement to be bound by the SANFL Constitution and Regulations under which the current nine teams operate.

Should the AFLNT elect to join another State League in 2009, the SANFL extends its best wishes for a successful outcome and would welcome further discussions with the view of participation in the SANFL in the future.

[Aerie]

If we are passionate about our clubs then the answer has to be the status quo, ie no new teams introduced to the SANFL.
I do not want to have to go to Darwin or Tasmania to be able to watch my team play football each week. Leave that for the AFL where all games are telecast so that all supporters of a club have access to seeing their team play.
Personally I like the bye. It allows players to freshen up, and indeed there is more to life than watching football, well maybe.
My preference is for the nine team competition to remain. Definately I would like to see the eight long standing traditional clubs of the SANFL to remain although I still have not fully accepted Central Districts yet. I have no interest or respect of newly formed clubs with no history and no culture like Woodville- West Torrens, Adelaide Crows or Port Adelaide Power. The Eagles should become the crows reserve side and perhaps a new Port Power reserves side introduced in the SANFL but an eight team competition would be better for quality and with 20 rounds played for each club

LOL

[Mickyj]

MEDIA RELEASE:

SANFL’S POSITION REGARDING AFLNT PROPOSAL

At a joint meeting of the SANFL League Directors and SA Football Commission on Monday night 19 May, it was determined that unresolved issues prevented the SANFL in accepting the AFLNT proposal to enter a team in the SANFL League competition in 2009.

SANFL Executive Commissioner Leigh Whicker said the AFLNT’s proposal was an exciting proposition worthy of serious consideration.

“Following a comprehensive review of the proposal a number of matters remain unresolved, particularly in relation to finance, player concessions and team competitiveness. The League Directors and the Commission are unanimous however that the doors would remain open in 2010 should such matters be satisfactorily addressed,” said Mr Whicker.

The SANFL League Directors determined that any entry into the SANFL in the future would be conditional upon the tenth team’s long term financial sustainability and its agreement to be bound by the SANFL Constitution and Regulations under which the current nine teams operate.

Should the AFLNT elect to join another State League in 2009, the SANFL extends its best wishes for a successful outcome and would welcome further discussions with the view of participation in the SANFL in the future.

HOORAH finally we do not need the NT .
Lets have a preseason comp with teams from all the state leagues .

[Squawk]

Coincidentally I spoke with a coach from NT AFL yesterday on this very issue.
The AFL has pledged $500k and the NT Govt $200k to establish an NT team in another comp.
My source told me that QLD is where the NT is keenest, principally because there is a concern about the ability of the NT players to be competitive in the SANFL comp. Apparently the NT's top 5 players would be up to regular SANFL selection but beyond that the 'depth' falls away very quickly. The QAFL is also a competition looking to further develop itself quickly with the forthcoming establishment of the Gold Coast team.

[am Bays]

How is Brett Hand, Squawk???

[Sojourner]

My preference is for the nine team competition to remain. Definately I would like to see the eight long standing traditional clubs of the SANFL to remain although I still have not fully accepted Central Districts yet. I have no interest or respect of newly formed clubs with no history and no culture like Woodville- West Torrens, Adelaide Crows or Port Adelaide Power. The Eagles should become the crows reserve side and perhaps a new Port Power reserves side introduced in the SANFL but an eight team competition would be better for quality and with 20 rounds played for each club

Only South and Port can claim to be original members of the SANFL. If you seriously cannot accept Central Districts as a side that began in 1964, how is that any different to Sturt who were the previous side into the competition in 1901, some 23 years after it began?

The original sides in the SANFL were, - South Park, Willunga, Port Adelaide, Adelaide, North Adelaide, Prince Alfred College, Gawler, Kapunda, Bankers, Woodville, South Adelaide and Victorian.

[Squawk]

How is Brett Hand, Squawk???

I was waiting for that one -
wrong!

Interestingly, the NT AFL squad at the NTIS does NOT have a full time coach this year, but apparently a number of different people (incl Brett) are sharing the duties.

[am Bays]

How is Brett Hand, Squawk???

I was waiting for that one -
wrong!

Interestingly, the NT AFL squad at the NTIS does NOT have a full time coach this year, but apparently a number of different people (incl Brett) are sharing the duties.

Very interesting, Squawk. I knew they weren't happy with the quality of the applicant for the full time position.

[doggies4eva]

I find this competitiveness issue one that is hard to accept.

2 years ago a combined team were competitive against North Adelaide and the game was only won in the last 10 minutes. North were clearly better drilled and disciplined. But this would improve for the NT side with a full time coach and a team of players who regularly played with each other. The arguement that NT would be more competive in the QLD league is questionable - I would expect them to dominate - how will this help them develop. Given the number of NT players currently playing AFL, SANFL and WAFL I would expect the NT to retain a higher quality of player longer which would help too.

The real seemed to be the SANFL wanted to go in 2010 and the NTAFL in 2009!

[smac]

That game was at the end of their season and the start of ours, 2 completely different stages of conditioning and skills. I'm sure that contributed to the result, along with the NT players wanting to 'step up' for the occasion while North were in reality playing a trial game.

[CUTTERMAN]

I find this competitiveness issue one that is hard to accept.

2 years ago a combined team were competitive against North Adelaide and the game was only won in the last 10 minutes. North were clearly better drilled and disciplined. But this would improve for the NT side with a full time coach and a team of players who regularly played with each other. The arguement that NT would be more competive in the QLD league is questionable - I would expect them to dominate - how will this help them develop. Given the number of NT players currently playing AFL, SANFL and WAFL I would expect the NT to retain a higher quality of player longer which would help too.

The real seemed to be the SANFL wanted to go in 2010 and the NTAFL in 2009!

If the NT send a team to the QAFL, I wonder where the best players from the NT would rather play in order to get drafted into the AFL considering that if they're playing in the QAFL they're instantly alligned to the Gold Coast and maybe Brisbane, might not seem so inviting to some.

[am Bays]

Ahh trust me for most they don't care where they play as long as it is in the AFL.

With a big NT connection at Brisbane (Darryl Whte - he's still huge in the NT), Anthony Corrie, Jarrod Brennan living in SE Qld would be verya ttractive to the young Territorians

[cd]

Article in todays paper gives NT view.