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Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby spell_check » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:43 pm

Has the Under 18s points changed this year? According to the Budget, like the Reserves, 50 points are worth a win. Unless if it's another balls up to go with the AFL style percentage; Nathan Lonie poster and some of the facts by numbers being wrong?
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby SnappyTom » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:42 pm

As the U16's don't play a full season (as we know it), yes. League 100, Reserves & U18s are 50 each.
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby MightyEagles » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:42 pm

Yes it has changed as the u16s isn't a full year like the u17/19s system was where both played the same amount of games as the league and Reserves. Don't know why the 18s are the same points as the Reserves. It used to be 20 - 17s, 30 - 19s 50 - Reserves and 100 - League
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby bosvit » Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:15 am

Is it more evidence that the SANFL is being seen as important only for its U18 players by the powers that be?

What's next banning U18 from reserves to make it easier for talent scouts from the AFL?
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby Bluedemon » Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:06 pm

The U/18's comp is not a true 18's comp as it is allowed to play up to 6 U/19's players. These are players that the club sees is a chance to play resereves football or needs to develop that extra year for a chance to play league.
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby MightyEagles » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:06 am

kookas wrote:The U/18's comp is not a true 18's comp as it is allowed to play up to 6 U/19's players. These are players that the club sees is a chance to play resereves football or needs to develop that extra year for a chance to play league.


Which is a reason I was against the change in the first place.
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby Wedgie » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:51 am

Serious question, does anyoune honestly really care about the Stanley H Lewis points table?
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby twosheds » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:36 pm

Wedgie wrote:Serious question, does anyoune honestly really care about the Stanley H Lewis points table?


Yes actually quite a few of us do !
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby SnappyTom » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:38 pm

Wedgie wrote:Serious question, does anyoune honestly really care about the Stanley H Lewis points table?


Nope; just spelling errors!

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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby Wedgie » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:45 pm

twosheds wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Serious question, does anyoune honestly really care about the Stanley H Lewis points table?


Yes actually quite a few of us do !


Fair enough, just interested as I've never met anyone that is.
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:33 pm

Wedgie wrote:Serious question, does anyoune honestly really care about the Stanley H Lewis points table?


Academic interest only. It would have carried far more interest years ago, but with players now going up and down from AFL to SANFL, and with younger players getting scooped up by AFL club, it really isn't an indication of club strength any more.
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby scott » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:38 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Serious question, does anyoune honestly really care about the Stanley H Lewis points table?


Academic interest only. It would have carried far more interest years ago, but with players now going up and down from AFL to SANFL, and with younger players getting scooped up by AFL club, it really isn't an indication of club strength any more.

Yeah pretty much nail, hammer, head.

I still, however, like the concept of the system, as it gives more meaning to the results of reserves and under 18s, rather than those matches - particularly under 18s - being mostly about the individual performances rather than the team.
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby doggies4eva » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:40 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Serious question, does anyoune honestly really care about the Stanley H Lewis points table?


Academic interest only. It would have carried far more interest years ago, but with players now going up and down from AFL to SANFL, and with younger players getting scooped up by AFL club, it really isn't an indication of club strength any more.


I care about it too!

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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby SnappyTom » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:44 pm

Wedgie wrote:
twosheds wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Serious question, does anyoune honestly really care about the Stanley H Lewis points table?


Yes actually quite a few of us do !


Fair enough, just interested as I've never met anyone that is.
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I reckon there's a cheque to the winning Club for about $10,000 as well, IIRC - from our SHL pickups in 2002 and 2003.
I'm sure we got a cheque presented on the field before one of the GFs, might have been 2003.

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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:48 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Serious question, does anyoune honestly really care about the Stanley H Lewis points table?


Academic interest only. It would have carried far more interest years ago, but with players now going up and down from AFL to SANFL, and with younger players getting scooped up by AFL club, it really isn't an indication of club strength any more.


Does that mean the premiership table in each grade is not an indication of a club's strength in each particular grade?
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby MightyEagles » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:36 pm

It helps if the league team is winning/top (or close) of the ladder.
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:39 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Serious question, does anyoune honestly really care about the Stanley H Lewis points table?


Academic interest only. It would have carried far more interest years ago, but with players now going up and down from AFL to SANFL, and with younger players getting scooped up by AFL club, it really isn't an indication of club strength any more.


Does that mean the premiership table in each grade is not an indication of a club's strength in each particular grade?


Yes it does. Think about it.
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:44 pm

So premierships don't mean anything?
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Re: Stanley H. Lewis Trophy Points

Postby MightyEagles » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:18 am

Dogwatcher wrote:So premierships don't mean anything?


Yes they still mean something, but not in the context of the SH Lewis Trophy, as the points are only for H&A games because not all teams make the finals.
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