two rumours

[EAGLES]

hnlden may not sponsor the dogs next year or if they do will be at a much lower level
Also is it true that in an attempt to slash costs one of the tabled discussion points is whether we will keep the reserves grade from next year on
Will we just have eighteenr and league
With non selected older players divided among local teams

[Grahaml]

Sadly I think the Holden rumour may well be true. Given how public their troubles have been it would be incredibly tough for them to justify sponsoring a footy club to the extent they do. And thus would end a very strong, long standing and successful association. As for disbanding the ressies comp you would think it won't happen. 4 clubs really didn't want to lose the 2 junior grades so surely more will not want to lose the seconds.

The "solution" of playing those players in local teams isn't viable IMHO. There are a myriad of issues such as players playing out of position, player safety (can well imagine some div 5 hack wanting to get a piece of some of the higher profile players if they had to come back through injury), clubs not being able to track players brogress very well, players playing in vastly different comps as not all would be in div 1 as well as opposition by local clubs of having to deal with players, often you would think significant numbers of players, moving in and out of their club and that disruption. We already talk about issues with the AFL clubs and SANFL clubs with regards to players. Well, at the moment there might be 20-30 players in that boat. Take out the reserves of each of the 9 clubs and you're talking 200 or so at the moment. If they all play div 1,2 or 3 then 8 or so each week per club in those grades! And what of AFL players coming back through the ammos? Josh Carr playing div 4 against PAOC and Mark Riccuito? Or against Salisbury West? Not going to happen, so the clubs would lose a stack of players (especially since the player would be paid better to be a full time amatuer player) and a lot of flexibility.

[Grahaml]

Do teams have to pay all of their salary cap? I wouldn't have thought so. In fact I would even doubt there is a mandate to spend a certain percentage like the AFL has in. So why not tell clubs to reduce their salary cap spending to offset losses if they are as serious a problem as thought. In the english football comps teams are penalised points for poor financial management. Should a similar policy be introduced to the SANFL? It would be a massive step to tell a club because they recorded 3 years consecutive losses and paid all their salary cap they're going to be penalised 6 points for the following season but if conditions are as bad as we're being told then serious thoughts about new ideas need to be considered.

[oldfella]

Grahaml - your idea reference salary cap would have some merit if all clubs were genuinely working within the salary cap however I honestly doubt that some are -- given that your idea would have limited/real effect on costs.

I do feel your comment reference players going to a lower grade (love the thought of Josh Carr playing div 4 against PAOC) is very valid -- dropping the reserves is a silly idea and hopefully will be treated as such -- is this similar to what politician do in that a rumour appears from nowhere and if there is a bad response then the pollies deny all knowledge?

[SDK]

So Garry McIntosh comes back from injury through Hope Valley ?
Barry Robran has a run with Walkerville ?
Wont hapen...no way. If you dont have a reserves side you dont have a football club.

Holdens ? Hope not.

[whatever]

Holden have been very loyal to Centrals.

It would be good in a time where Holdens have their backs to the wall if Centrals could carry them as a major sponsor for a year or two without collecting a cent from Holdens.

From my understanding Cenrtals are making enough money that they could return the support to a long term sponsor.

[bayman]

Barry Robran has a run with Walkerville ?

didn't that happen years ago & some low life thug belted barrie ?

[bayman]

speaking of rumours, has anyone heard or know about a (former) west player moving to prospect oval ?

[JK]

speaking of rumours, has anyone heard or know about a (former) west player moving to prospect oval ?

Heard that one aswell mate, don't know whether legit though?

[Hazydog]

Holdens have been a loyal sponsor over the years although I think the value to them would be more about the morale boost the sponsorship provides for their local employees rather than any exposure they receive. I would have thought that with employees making sacrifices during tough economic times, that the morale boost factor would become even more valuable.
Putting Holdens to one side for a moment, it makes me laugh how some of these huge corporations have to make severe cut backs to ensure their multi million & even billion dollar profits continue. They seem to have every one feeling sorry for them that the profits may be down by a miniscule percentage.
Anyway - now I've vented, Holdens support will be long appreciated even when it does eventually finish.

[spell_check]

They seem to have every one feeling sorry for them that the profits may be down by a miniscule percentage.

Which forces down the stockmarket price by 20%

[Psyber]

Holdens have been a loyal sponsor over the years although I think the value to them would be more about the morale boost the sponsorship provides for their local employees rather than any exposure they receive. I would have thought that with employees making sacrifices during tough economic times, that the morale boost factor would become even more valuable.
Putting Holdens to one side for a moment, it makes me laugh how some of these huge corporations have to make severe cut backs to ensure their multi million & even billion dollar profits continue. They seem to have every one feeling sorry for them that the profits may be down by a miniscule percentage.
Anyway - now I've vented, Holdens support will be long appreciated even when it does eventually finish.

I don't have any actual figures for their profit, but in any case you have to look at it as a percentage of the capital invested.
If a billion profit is 4% of capital it is easier, and more secure, to put the money in an investment account with a bank at the 4.2% I was recently quoted, which is what shareholders will do.
Then Holden fold, and every worker there is without a job...

The reality is that any company has to give shareholders a return that is worth keeping their money in the company, if the company is to keep trading and keep employing people.