Norwood's coaching position.

[Squawk]

Personally I think that the emotion of that week has been given far too much credence as well, and I say that with absolutely no disprespect intended to the late Lee Blake or the Blake family.

Bill Wedding was on his deathbed when we went to play the Dogs at Elizabeth last year and we lost by 26 goals. He died a couple of hours later. I've never quite reconciled the fact that the last score he heard was a 26 goal loss.

The Port win was simply a case of us being "less bad" than Port on the night, who were also without players on their bench for much of the game due to injury. Also, Donohue kicked 6 straight - yes, six goals for one, and no misses either. If it had been 3.3 then who knows.

Vs North, it was our annual bolt out of the blue match. Last year was the game vs the Eagles at Thebarton, although we had a good win vs Sturt in the rain at Unley early on as well.

Vs Glenelg - well, I'm glad I'm not doing the post mortem. It was a train wreck.

[mal]

Ive followed the legs for over 40 years now
Very few coaches could get Hills players any higher up then he has
Simple equation
Hill has not got the players to be judged as a very good or very bad coach
Sure a superdooper coach may have got the legs into the 5 but not a flag

I suggest he is perhaps given time
The club has secured a very high profile recruit in recent times
his name P MACHINE
Let the cash cow produce
the club can then buy players
and bingo
after that and only that can be say if the coach is good or over the HILL .

[JK]

There's been several bad losses and one inept draw this year.
Plus 7 goalless quarters already this season.

Only wins have been against a struggling West, the traditional foes Port and an inspired performance against North.
Hill is simply unable to extract good peformances out of the players on a consistent basis and that is what a good coach does.

He seemed like a reasonable signing when he started, but as far as I'm concerned he has to go.

So where did the 'inspired performance" come from, the coach, players or the front bar. Someone should get the credit so who might that be? Norwood are like Essendon, underachievers and always looking to blame someone for what is a club and not an individual issue.

It seems you haven't been paying much attention to the SANFL lately so let me explain.

Lee Blake, whilst not a household name was known to many here as a recent Norwood player who had recently suffered a relapse of cancer. He entered hospital shortly before the Port game and died shortly after that game. His funeral was held in the week prior to the North game.

That is where the emotion/inspiration came from.

So what you are saying is it takes a very unfortunate and untimely death of a fellow player to motivate players enough to want to win. I suggest that's a very sad indictment on the playing group at Norwood.
What happened to self motivation,pride and the drive to achieve what hasn't been achieved at Norwood for a fair while, consistent performances. Maybe the truth of it is that the playing group are not up to the required standard, now that may be the honest answer you should be looking for instead of blaming the results on an individual , it's called being part of a joint team effort.

Fair posts mate, in nearly every group that that isn't functioning well the problem is larger than one individual, I have no doubt it's the case at our club aswell.

There's no doubt questions need to be asked of the playing group, but let's keep the horse in front of the cart, who is most responsible for the departure's and arrivals, selections and non-selections, game style and enforcing of desired style?

in 2005 Norwood were 80+ points behind at Noarlunga at HALFTIME early in the season ... Rookie coach Dale Lewis read the riot act to the players at the break and despite being the inferior team on the day, managed about a 10 goal loss, also set the tone for required commitment and acceptable efforts onfield and it showed through out the remainder of the year.

No such pride or honesty coming forth from this current leader, and IMHO he is cleary a VERY large part of the problem ... As I said earlier though, there is no area of this particular football club (which exception perhaps of the marketing department) which could claim exemption in review, all area's are underperforming, perhaps some more than others though.

[TigerBoss]

I was staggered when Hill had his contract extended last season...his performances to that point did not warrant an extension...

Having said that, on their day, Norwood have shown they're good enough to beat sides like Port and North...no slouches either of those, so perhaps we ought to hold off a few weeks, rather than getting too carried away after last Friday's disappointing hitout.

[JK]

so perhaps we ought to hold off a few weeks, rather than getting too carried away after last Friday's disappointing hitout.

I don't think so mate, to be honest I don't think we have (a combination of) the ability, style or confidence to genuinely challenge any of last seasons top 5 on a consistent basis ... Sure we might pinch one here or there, particularly when the wetter weather sets in, but in the main we are just not in the same class.

I think you'll find most fans outcry since last Friday night are not based on just that one game, but after a few years there's been no significant improvement (some would suggest further decline) and some have obviously felt enough is enough.

I'm sure it's not an easy job by any means to turn around a stuggling club (and those involved would no doubt be trying), so there shouldn't be any personal hatred toward members of the club, but you would like to think that 5 seasons was at least enough time to show that we're headed in the right direction.

Across the collective grades, we entered this year with 40 flagless years behind us, so enough is enough, something has to be done to arrest this unsuccessful situation - All supporters I know will be happy to sit by a longer term plan if they can see even the slightest of achievements and feeling of heading in that right direction, but it's not the case and hasn't been for a long long time.

[TigerBoss]

I don't disagree with you CP...in fact, what you're saying has a familiar ring to what many Bays fans were saying several years back...

I do however think that a team that gets up against a quality side like North, and who by all reports played well to beat Port, needn't get too dismayed at a bad performance against the Bays last week.

A loss like this triggers these types of emotions and criticism. And fair enough too.

Long-term supporters SHOULD be demanding answers and seeing some sign of improvement. Every right to ask questions if it isn't happening...

[fester69]

It Isn't happening!

[Psyber]

I was staggered when Hill had his contract extended last season...his performances to that point did not warrant an extension...

Having said that, on their day, Norwood have shown they're good enough to beat sides like Port and North...no slouches either of those, so perhaps we ought to hold off a few weeks, rather than getting too carried away after last Friday's disappointing hitout.

As a long-term Norwood supporter I hate to think it, but perhaps they couldn't find anyone else who would put their hand up for the job!

[Sojourner]

Would Leigh Matthews really have done any better with Norwoods list this year than Trevor Hill?

[Squawk]

Would Leigh Matthews really have done any better with Norwoods list this year than Trevor Hill?

Would Leigh Matthews have done any better than Ross Lyon or John Worsfold?

[topsywaldron]

I do however think that a team that gets up against a quality side like North, and who by all reports played well to beat Port, needn't get too dismayed at a bad performance against the Bays last week.

A bad performance? Don't make me laugh.

Where should I start? How about one that'd be dear to your memory, Norwood goaless until after the half time siren? How about 158 points to Centrals? How about giving up a 43 point lead against South to draw? How about losing by ten goals to West? All in the last three years.

Trust me, it didn't take too long to come up with these and I'm not even including the boring old ten goal losses where the opponent takes the foot off the gas after a quarter because it's only Norwood.

We have become a flat out f^^king disgrace. We've turned into Glenelg.

[spell_check]

I do however think that a team that gets up against a quality side like North, and who by all reports played well to beat Port, needn't get too dismayed at a bad performance against the Bays last week.

A bad performance? Don't make me laugh.

Where should I start? How about one that'd be dear to your memory, Norwood goaless until after the half time siren? How about 158 points to Centrals? How about giving up a 43 point lead against South to draw? How about losing by ten goals to West? All in the last three years.

Trust me, it didn't take too long to come up with these and I'm not even including the boring old ten goal losses where the opponent takes the foot off the gas after a quarter because it's only Norwood.

We have become a flat out f^^king disgrace. We've turned into Glenelg.

You did have that super impressive victory last year at Thebarton though. Unfortunately that 158 point loss occured 2 matches later.

[pipers]

The club has secured a very high profile recruit in recent times
his name P MACHINE
Let the cash cow produce
the club can then buy players
and bingo

Poker machines AND Bingo?

[Squawk]

Dominoes is next on the list