SANFL umpiring so far...your thoughts

[stan]

Well when it comes to umpiriing its not going to get better until we get more numbers in to umpiring. To do that you need to recurit them and put the time into training them properly, and that is more than 1 or 2 trainings a week. Yes its going to cost $$$$ but the image of umpires needs to be lifted perhaps made to be more lucrative.

[Tiger Couple]

I thought the 5RPH commentators summed up one of the umpires at the Bay in the 1st qtr very well. The comment was "Medlin appears to be out of his league today" this was more so about the free kicks that he was missing and the pulling the soft ones out. Thought his colleges were pretty good for me though.

I think the big problem that i saw at the Bay on the weekend was the umpires reluctance to get out the centre corridor and missed stuff out close to the boundary lines.

It is something that they must be being told to do but I still can't understand why they three of them stand in a straight line through the middle surely they would see more if one was boundary side of the play.

This is the powers that be not the umpires that have to sort this out.

[Big Phil]

I thought the 5RPH commentators summed up one of the umpires at the Bay in the 1st qtr very well. The comment was "Medlin appears to be out of his league today" this was more so about the free kicks that he was missing and the pulling the soft ones out. Thought his colleges were pretty good for me though.

I think the big problem that i saw at the Bay on the weekend was the umpires reluctance to get out the centre corridor and missed stuff out close to the boundary lines.

It is something that they must be being told to do but I still can't understand why they three of them stand in a straight line through the middle surely they would see more if one was boundary side of the play.

This is the powers that be not the umpires that have to sort this out.

You make such a good point PUNTER...

I think we now see in the AFL the umpires always getting to the right spot to call a fair majority of the free kicks. You are right, SANFL umpires don't work hard enough to get to the better spot that might be close to the boundary or simply in the "right" position to conclusively make the correct decision. Maybe it's a case of lack of fitness, maybe the umiring bosses aren't educating the men in white to work harder to get to the right or best spot. Maybe it's a case of "a little from category A and a little from category B" ??!!

That's just my opinion, I think the key is educating the umpires thoroughly. Maybe they need to watch a bit of AFL umpiring for help.

Big Phil...

[am Bays]

Just out of interests does anyone on here actually know the right spots umpires are suspposd to run to??

I know of two people on this site who if they said yes that I'd believe them....

[Big Phil]

Just out of interests does anyone on here actually know the right spots umpires are suspposd to run to??

I know of two people on this site who if they said yes that I'd believe them....

I reckon there are a few umpires running around at the moment that don't actually know themselves...

It's not about us knowing Tassie, it's about the men in white doing the job they get paid to do, PROPERLY

In answer to your question, I reckon my answer is YES. I think I have enough of a footy brain to know where they need to be.

Big Phil...

P.S - Tassie, just out of interest, can I ask if you were an umpire in a past life ???

[am Bays]

You can ask..... Given that I don't believe in reincarnation I'm don't reckon I was Ken Aplin....

As recently as last year yes, but only in country victoria. I'm only a level two. I do know of a couple of level threes - i.e. State League level umpires that post on this site.

You'd be surprised at what the actual positioning is compared to what you think watching from the sidelines. I know I was. The positioning is based on where you can best see most of the infringements most of the time not all of them all of the time as it is impossible.

For example if you are boundary side (As some people here claim you should be i.e. out of the corridor) you see what the crowd see however a quick change of direction /switch of play and your out of position and chasing backsides not able to see the next act of play. Modern players are very smart and are able to adapt to where the umpires are therefore get away with infringements - like a few Glenelg players did v South with a couple of throws.

If the umpire responds to that and stands boundary side you can bet players will give hand offs / throws into the corridor on the umpires "new" blind side. As an umpire I know there have been a few times when I've been 95% sure by actions of the player and the crowd reaction that the player has thrown it but but because the players body has obscured the "suspposed" handball I've had to let it go as I refuse to guess.

It is surprising how different the view is from the inside looking out compared to the outside looking in to the centre of the ground. However as i said before, what you pick up initially from being outside the corridor will be counter acted by being hopelessy out of position for the next act of play and you will miss far more and draw even more ire from the crowd.

<edit> BTW I don't pretend to be an expert or a neccessarily a good umpire either - what I do know is that it is a bloody hard job to get excactly right and you can never win...

[redden whites]

I reckon the umpys would look at lot better if the spectators bloody well knew the rules they were whining about.

[Pseudo]

Modern players are very smart and are able to adapt to where the umpires are therefore get away with infringements - like a few Glenelg players did v South with a couple of throws.

So that's why Mark McKenzie looked up to make sure the umpire was unsighted before he dropped his knee into the face of an upturned Glenelg player on the turf, right in front of Snout's Hill...

[bayman]

i didn't think there was too much wrong with them yesterday at prospect

[wycbloods]

I think this is the best start to a season they have had in the past 7 or 8 years that i have been involved at Westies. They seem to be more willing to give the frees instinctively not just paying the dead obvious ones. I think the interpretation of holding the ball has improved and also the holding frees off the ball have been caught well thus far. Lets hope they keep the standard up it certainly is good when the umps don't impact the result.

[bayman]

just resurfacing this thread as opposed to OCT's i have seen 11 games so far this year & i haven't seen a blatantly wrong decision this year, i have seen the odd mistake & a few 'soft frees' but they are instructed to pay them so we can't complain because we already know that

[sturtpeter]

No comment except to quote the great, Rex Hunt they've been sch.....n

[Adelaide Hawk]

Modern players are very smart and are able to adapt to where the umpires are therefore get away with infringements - like a few Glenelg players did v South with a couple of throws.

So that's why Mark McKenzie looked up to make sure the umpire was unsighted before he dropped his knee into the face of an upturned Glenelg player on the turf, right in front of Snout's Hill...

I'm not hasving a go, or trying to be argumentative here, I'm genuinely interested in your honest response ... if it were a Glenelg player guilty of the same offence, would you be as willing to highlight it, or make objection to it?

[phantom57]

At least our blokes aren't as "precious" as those miked up,overated,get out of the way,what the !,you can't be fu#@&g serious,glow in the dark , upstarts in the AFL! Although at times a few appear to be auditioning.....

[am Bays]

No comment except to quote the great, Rex Hunt they've been sch.....n

Whinging bloody Norwood supporters/members, you'd think you'd love umpires after Des Foster in 1978....

[Dirko]

IMO, I've seen all the Bay games and they umpiring has been pretty good.

The only calls I've seen where I get annoyed is when a bloke is committed to laying a tackle, starts to lay the tackle, the ball carrier drops the ball and then gets the free as the tackler has the momentum and completes the tackle yet gives away a free for holding the man...

Should be a call of play on...but then again I'm no umpire

[mighty_tiger_79]

the umps would do a lot better if they listened to the advice given to them from behind the fence

[Adelaide Hawk]

No comment except to quote the great, Rex Hunt they've been sch.....n

Whinging bloody Norwood supporters/members, you'd think you'd love umpires after Des Foster in 1978....

The quote comes from a Sturt supporter, and you have a shot at Norwood supporters. do you have some sort of problem with Norwood?

[Dog_ger]

I reckon the umpys would look at lot better if the spectators bloody well knew the rules they were whining about.

Spectators will never know the rules "redden"