Crows 2014

Talk on the national game

Re: Crows 2014

Postby Hefty » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:04 am

Johno6 wrote:
Hefty wrote:
Johno6 wrote:
HH3 wrote:I go for North Melbourne coz of I was born in a small town north of Melbourne. It was also 1996..... ;)

(I was 8 when I decided they were the team for me)



altho nobody wants my life story
I was born in Adelaide but at around 2-3 months I think it was I moved to perth for 10 years.


struggled to support myself for a while, nobody wants to hire a new born baby, but here I am today stronger than ever


And South Australia is a much better place having you back.



nawwwwww........



you just want me to play D grade this year don't you!


Correct
Hefty
League Bench Warmer
 
 
Posts: 1142
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:29 pm
Has liked: 133 times
Been liked: 110 times
Grassroots Team: Golden Grove

Re: Crows 2014

Postby Hefty » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:05 am

Just heard on Triple M they are renaming the ‘Tony Hall Pocket’ to the ‘Eddie Betts Pocket’
Hefty
League Bench Warmer
 
 
Posts: 1142
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:29 pm
Has liked: 133 times
Been liked: 110 times
Grassroots Team: Golden Grove

Re: Crows 2014

Postby heater31 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:12 am

Hefty wrote:Just heard on Triple M they are renaming the ‘Tony Hall Pocket’ to the ‘Eddie Betts Pocket’


Shouldn't be naming it at all.....didn't realise that Tony Hall ever slotted a goal from the south east pocket of Adelaide oval......what has Eddie Betts done at Adelaide Oval?
User avatar
heater31
Moderator
 
 
Posts: 16521
Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:42 am
Location: the back blocks
Has liked: 525 times
Been liked: 1259 times

Re: Crows 2014

Postby Hefty » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:26 am

heater31 wrote:
Hefty wrote:Just heard on Triple M they are renaming the ‘Tony Hall Pocket’ to the ‘Eddie Betts Pocket’


Shouldn't be naming it at all.....didn't realise that Tony Hall ever slotted a goal from the south east pocket of Adelaide oval......what has Eddie Betts done at Adelaide Oval?


Give it time....
Hefty
League Bench Warmer
 
 
Posts: 1142
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:29 pm
Has liked: 133 times
Been liked: 110 times
Grassroots Team: Golden Grove

Re: Crows 2014

Postby scoob » Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:43 am

heater31 wrote:
Hefty wrote:Just heard on Triple M they are renaming the ‘Tony Hall Pocket’ to the ‘Eddie Betts Pocket’


Shouldn't be naming it at all.....didn't realise that Tony Hall ever slotted a goal from the south east pocket of Adelaide oval......what has Eddie Betts done at Adelaide Oval?


It won't be long and he will be getting overpaid at the Adelaide Oval - does that count?
User avatar
scoob
Veteran
 
Posts: 3702
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:15 pm
Location: The Track
Has liked: 17 times
Been liked: 87 times

Re: Crows 2014

Postby Johno6 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:42 pm

@Hefty


with my fitness and lack of training I don't think you need to sweet talk me to play d grade.



I think if the crows lose the game against port they should have to wear the big v for the next showdown
R.I.P Mum 28/02/12



Asterix Users - Squibs
User avatar
Johno6
Coach
 
Posts: 14684
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:37 am
Has liked: 344 times
Been liked: 604 times
Grassroots Team: Golden Grove

Re: Crows 2014

Postby Robb_Stark » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:01 pm

i just spent 295 dollars on the state top dont wanna have to buy a big v one also :)
Robb_Stark
League - Best 21
 
 
Posts: 1810
Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:01 am
Has liked: 72 times
Been liked: 155 times

Re: Crows 2014

Postby Stumps » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:46 pm

From Indaily today- very well written and a sentiment I agree with

Dear Port fans: you just don’t get it David Washington | 6 February 2014 Victorian and South Australian players before the 1988 state of origin match.
Comment |

Dear Port Adelaide fans: I’m terribly sorry you feel so “disappointed” about the Crows wearing a replica of the old South Australian state guernsey in one game this year.

Would you like me to pour you a cup of tea? Or maybe massage your shoulders?

Settle in, because I’m going to tell you a story.

Once upon a time, in an Adelaide far, far away, the city was divided into football tribes. Some of them were very old, like your mob, which joined the competition that came to be known as the SANFL in 1877. My mob Norwood, relative latecomers, joined the competition in 1878.

Some of the teams had extraordinary periods of dominance – Norwood in the first years of the comp and again in the 1920s; Port in the 1950s and the 1980s; Sturt ruled the late 1960s with a sublime run of five flags. Even West Adelaide had their time in the sun, during the first decade of the 20th century.

Some clubs enjoyed very little success. South Adelaide, one of the early powerhouses of the competition, captured its last premiership in 1964. Yet, you could argue that its long-suffering fans are the most loyal in the whole competition. To front up week after week in the face of such a drought of success? That’s passion.

Every year, the best players from the competition would be selected to play against some of the other states, wearing the state colours. The game that really counted was against Victoria. On rare occasions, we won, sparking wild celebrations.

In the early 1990s, your club was clearly the most successful in terms of Premierships won. But in a competition of such long history and passion, did this mean your club was of greater intrinsic value than any other? No. All of the teams had history, pride and passion worth preserving and celebrating. Well – that’s what most of us believed.

Your club’s custodians disagreed. They believed that Port was indeed greater than the whole, and decided to make a run for the big league – the infant AFL, which was, at the time, nothing more than a slightly expanded version of the VFL.

The rest of the SANFL clubs and fans were blindsided, so a hasty compromise was put together. The Adelaide Crows, wearing the state colours, would join the AFL – it would be “the team for all South Australians”. It was, at the time, a team put together with a few outsiders, but mostly star SANFL players – including from Port.

See what I”m getting at?

The SANFL competition was immediately affected. After decades of our best players streaming across the border chasing money and glory in the VFL, the presence of a local team laid further waste to the talent in the local competition. More than 100 years of history mattered little in the face of this new world of glitz and glamour.

A few years later, you joined the AFL – in doing so, you became the only existing club from a competition outside the VFL to be allowed in. It was a gift that no other SANFL fan will experience, at least in the foreseeable future.

I cannot even begin to imagine the joy of seeing Norwood players run on to the MCG in an AFL final – or even a home and away game.

Understand? No?

Back to the story.

The fabric of the SANFL competition was again stretched thin. After some early success, your SANFL club – the Magpies – started to fray and falter, which was bittersweet to those of us who remembered the fierce battles of the past.

The SANFL was altered forever. No matter how much we told ourselves that it was “real” footy, old-fashioned suburban footy, it became a shadow of its former great self.

The days of standing room only crowds at tiny suburban grounds were over.

We would never again see some of the country’s best players slip on our club’s jumper while in their prime.

Premierships, while moments of undoubted joy, had lost a few degrees of sweetness.

Can you comprehend any of the sense of loss that the rest of us might feel?

Can you understand that, while many of us support the Crows in the AFL, our SANFL history is still vitally important to us? That we feel it slipping away as the new generations of football supporters only have eyes for the AFL? That we can see a day coming when the proud history of a club like Norwood will only be remembered by sad old timers (that would be us), regaling young bucks with stories while they try to disguise a yawn?

Can you grasp – in any way – that the proud history of the SANFL is something we want to celebrate, that we have a right to celebrate, through the achievements of the Adelaide Football Club?

No-one watching the Crows step out on to Adelaide Oval wearing a replica state jumper will equate these modern day players with the representative champions of the past. No-one believes that they have “won” a position in a state side.

It’s a nod – and a slight one at that – to what little living heritage remains for the legions of fans who grew up supporting SANFL clubs other than Port Adelaide, and who have followed an AFL club that was started by the SANFL and, in its early years, attempted to represent us all.

The links are tenuous, yes, I agree – nothing like your ability to barrack for the same Port Adelaide that was formed back in 1870, a fact you celebrate on the back of your AFL jumper. That’s a feeling that the rest of us will likely never know.

So will you give us this one nod to our past? Will you put yourselves in our shoes for a moment?

No. I see you’re still disappointed.

You don’t know the meaning of the word.
Stumps....
User avatar
Stumps
League Bench Warmer
 
Posts: 1380
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:04 pm
Has liked: 60 times
Been liked: 45 times

Re: Crows 2014

Postby scoob » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:09 pm

Stumps.... That's the think that's not getting through to you all. It's not about Port Adelaide football club, it's about a club claiming something that they have no rights to claim. As hard as the crows tried to make a case for it - they don't represent what that jumper stands for - A combined team of the best South Australian footballers.
User avatar
scoob
Veteran
 
Posts: 3702
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:15 pm
Location: The Track
Has liked: 17 times
Been liked: 87 times

Re: Crows 2014

Postby GWW » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:11 pm

Posting the article on two different threads doesn't give it any more credibility.
User avatar
GWW
Moderator
 
Posts: 15674
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:50 pm
Location: Eastern suburbs of Adelaide
Has liked: 816 times
Been liked: 166 times

Re: Crows 2014

Postby bennymacca » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:29 pm

Stumps wins thread.

Best argument I have heard for the crows being able to use it...

Another one.... The state jumper has allowed Victorian players to wear it for years now, the sacredness finished when the state of origin went back to the sanfl and it just became an sanfl representative side rather than a SA team.

For the record I still don't 100% agree with them using it, just that SAFooty thinks the sky is falling in. I guess i shouldn't be surprised about that last part
User avatar
bennymacca
Coach
 
 
Posts: 15028
Joined: Wed May 06, 2009 12:22 pm
Has liked: 2253 times
Been liked: 1803 times
Grassroots Team: Freeling

Re: Crows 2014

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:31 pm

bennymacca wrote:Stumps wins thread.

Best argument I have heard for the crows being able to use it...

Another one.... The state jumper has allowed Victorian players to wear it for years now, the sacredness finished when the state of origin went back to the sanfl and it just became an sanfl representative side rather than a SA team.

For the record I still don't 100% agree with them using it, just that SAFooty thinks the sky is falling in. I guess i shouldn't be surprised about that last part

why???

What a surprise...
"Fellas, it’s OK to be in pain. It’s OK to hurt. It’s OK to be sad. It’s no longer OK to suffer in silence."
User avatar
woodublieve12
Coach
 
 
Posts: 17205
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:48 pm
Has liked: 3016 times
Been liked: 2384 times

Re: Crows 2014

Postby bennymacca » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:33 pm

Lol what? never heard that expression before?
User avatar
bennymacca
Coach
 
 
Posts: 15028
Joined: Wed May 06, 2009 12:22 pm
Has liked: 2253 times
Been liked: 1803 times
Grassroots Team: Freeling

Re: Crows 2014

Postby bennymacca » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:34 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Stumps wins thread.

Best argument I have heard for the crows being able to use it...

Another one.... The state jumper has allowed Victorian players to wear it for years now, the sacredness finished when the state of origin went back to the sanfl and it just became an sanfl representative side rather than a SA team.

For the record I still don't 100% agree with them using it, just that SAFooty thinks the sky is falling in. I guess i shouldn't be surprised about that last part

why???

What a surprise...


Maybe you should read his post again. You may not agree with what he says but his argument is pretty clearly worded
User avatar
bennymacca
Coach
 
 
Posts: 15028
Joined: Wed May 06, 2009 12:22 pm
Has liked: 2253 times
Been liked: 1803 times
Grassroots Team: Freeling

Re: Crows 2014

Postby HH3 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:36 pm

Its not a very good argument. He's upset the SANFL has suffered because of the intergration of 2 Adelaide based clubs entering the AFL. BUT he solely blames Port, and the Crows are his team now. Also he thinks to remember the good times (which were ruined by the teams entering the AFL remember) that the Adelaide Crows should wear an SANFL State guernsey.

Terrible argument....well worded though
I TOLD YOU SO

2013/14 NFL Tipping Comp Champion
User avatar
HH3
Coach
 
Posts: 11641
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:14 pm
Has liked: 3301 times
Been liked: 2432 times
Grassroots Team: North Haven

Re: Crows 2014

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:46 pm

HH3 wrote:Its not a very good argument. He's upset the SANFL has suffered because of the intergration of 2 Adelaide based clubs entering the AFL. BUT he solely blames Port, and the Crows are his team now. Also he thinks to remember the good times (which were ruined by the teams entering the AFL remember) that the Adelaide Crows should wear an SANFL State guernsey.

Terrible argument....well worded though


Correct. Just for using a big word when a diminutive one would suffice does not make your point any more relevant.
PAFC. Forever.

LOOK OUT, WE'RE COMING!
User avatar
Booney
Coach
 
 
Posts: 58211
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:47 pm
Location: Alberton proud
Has liked: 7467 times
Been liked: 10755 times

Re: Crows 2014

Postby scoob » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:51 pm

User avatar
scoob
Veteran
 
Posts: 3702
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:15 pm
Location: The Track
Has liked: 17 times
Been liked: 87 times

Re: Crows 2014

Postby HH3 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:53 pm

Booney wrote:
HH3 wrote:Its not a very good argument. He's upset the SANFL has suffered because of the intergration of 2 Adelaide based clubs entering the AFL. BUT he solely blames Port, and the Crows are his team now. Also he thinks to remember the good times (which were ruined by the teams entering the AFL remember) that the Adelaide Crows should wear an SANFL State guernsey.

Terrible argument....well worded though


Correct. Just for using a big word when a diminutive one would suffice does not make your point any more relevant.


You're taking the piss, right?

I like it. :lol:
I TOLD YOU SO

2013/14 NFL Tipping Comp Champion
User avatar
HH3
Coach
 
Posts: 11641
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:14 pm
Has liked: 3301 times
Been liked: 2432 times
Grassroots Team: North Haven

Re: Crows 2014

Postby Booney » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:54 pm

HH3 wrote:
Booney wrote:
HH3 wrote:Its not a very good argument. He's upset the SANFL has suffered because of the intergration of 2 Adelaide based clubs entering the AFL. BUT he solely blames Port, and the Crows are his team now. Also he thinks to remember the good times (which were ruined by the teams entering the AFL remember) that the Adelaide Crows should wear an SANFL State guernsey.

Terrible argument....well worded though


Correct. Just for using a big word when a diminutive one would suffice does not make your point any more relevant.


You're taking the piss, right?

I like it. :lol:


I try. Thankyou for noticing.
:lol:
PAFC. Forever.

LOOK OUT, WE'RE COMING!
User avatar
Booney
Coach
 
 
Posts: 58211
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:47 pm
Location: Alberton proud
Has liked: 7467 times
Been liked: 10755 times

Re: Crows 2014

Postby RB » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:00 pm

kickinit wrote:This could be wrong but i'm pretty sure back in early 2000 the state game change to a league representative game. Meaning you didn't play for the state you were from, you played for the state you played in.

There was no change in 2000. State games have always involved players representing the league they played in - e.g. SANFL v VFL. That is what happened from the late 800s until the late 1970s, when State of Origin started; in this players represented their State of Origin - e.g. SA v Vic. They were playing traditional state games again as far back as 1991 - I think the SANFL played in Perth that year. During the 1990s often they'd play a state game and SOO game on the same day.
R.I.P. the SANFL 1877 - 2013
User avatar
RB
Coach
 
Posts: 5628
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:45 pm
Has liked: 759 times
Been liked: 1073 times

PreviousNext

Board index   Football  AFL

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests

Around the place

Competitions   SANFL Official Site | Country Footy SA | Southern Football League | VFL Footy
Club Forums   Snouts Louts | The Roost | Redlegs Forum |