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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby MightyEagles » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:02 am

pels wrote:Team Pantani is waiting for administrator approval.

What a great month or so with the ashes & the tour on.


Both on SBS.
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby heater31 » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:25 am

MightyEagles wrote:Speed Eagles is waiting for the go ahead.


so is Heater's Hotshots
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby pels » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:35 am

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pels wrote:Team Pantani is waiting for administrator approval.

What a great month or so with the ashes & the tour on.


Both on SBS.


The TV will not change much from SBS 1 & 2 for the month of July other than the odd game of football
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby Squawk » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:40 pm

Speed Eagles and Team Pantani have been accepted. They haven't shown in the league table as yet - do you get sent another link to confirm your registration?

Still waiting for the team called "Wheels" something or other to show up up again.

These are the teams in the league not counting Speed Eagles and Team Pantani:

0 Fortis in Procella
0 whufc
0 PIDGE (only 3 riders selected so far).
0 Heaters Hotshots
0 Speed Demon

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby Squawk » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:21 pm

Starts at 1130pm TONIGHT on SBS One. 15km individual time trial.
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby dedja » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:41 pm

Good solid start by Cadel ... and by Lance for that matter too.
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby Squawk » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:28 am

Cavendish wins the stage in a bunch finish - by about 3 lengths. Watch for the crash about 1km from the finish as a few riders went wayward at a point where the service vehicles are to exit - and a few cyclists took that route only to realise too late that it wasn't the course to the finish line! No 63 went down (Euskadel Euskadi rider in orange). Thor Hushovd got 4th. Tom Boonen nowhere to be seen, Cancellara holds on to the yellow jersey and Vaikonnen (Finland) takes the KOM jersey.
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby Stumps » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:50 am

Looked like the first big day in the saddle sorted out a few with the undulating terrain. Cavendish's team were on fire all day and he was always a huge show to win it- pretty non eventful finish in the day.
Great effort for vaikonnen the first finnish rider ever in the polka- nipeed out to a 5 minute breakaway and claimed all the climbing points- would be a sore boy today. looking forward to team time trial tomorrow night- always good to watch
Cadel going ok keeping out of trouble-
Ogrady did alot of work at the front of the peleton to reign in the breakaway- and rogers as well.
Not sure what tonights stage will bring- but looking fwd to it
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby PLETTONIC » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:16 pm

Tonights stage is another for the sprinters so expect the Colombia train to reign again. the Team time trial will be interesting battle between Astana and Saxo Bank but I recon the Garmin Slipstream team can be the danger to the two big teams with their TT specialists in Millar, Wiggins and Zabriskie
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:20 pm

Sorry lads, I missed the kick off and the dream teams. Bugger.

Great effort overnight by Michael Rodgers to get his team mate Mark Cavendish over the line.

Cadel is sitting in a strong position and IMO, doesn't need his team mates to get him close. Refer to the well documented loner status Cadel likes from last years TDF thread.

It's all too early to make predictions with so many riders being a realistic chance of winning. The mountains in a few days time will help sort the yellow jersey contenders from the sprinters and team players etc. I personally can't wait to see how Lance goes and am also very interested to see how Cavendish deals with the hills. Cavendish is a freak, but I can't see him doing anything but scrape through in the uphill stages.

Finally, typical bloody Americans have ruined the telecast here in Canada by putting their own commentators in place who do nothing but make stupid captain obvious comments all show. Phil Liggett is in my opinion the BEST commentator in world sport in any discipline. Why would you not run with his comments?
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby Squawk » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:38 pm

devilsadvocate wrote:very interested to see how Cavendish deals with the hills. Cavendish is a freak, but I can't see him doing anything but scrape through in the uphill stages.

Finally, typical bloody Americans have ruined the telecast here in Canada by putting their own commentators in place who do nothing but make stupid captain obvious comments all show. Phil Liggett is in my opinion the BEST commentator in world sport in any discipline. Why would you not run with his comments?


Cavendish has pretty good climbing ability by all accounts and has just done the Giro I think, so he has miles in his legs.

You might be able to stream the Liggett commentary via the SBS website stream?

Interesting this year that Phil Sherwen seems to be throwing his weight around over Phil Liggett - keeps finding ways to point out Phil L has said something incorrect. Almost as if he is sick of reading out fact sheets about every castle and the local farmers in each of the departments making hay bale tributes... :lol: - has anyone else noticed this?
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby dedja » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:48 am

Squawk wrote:Interesting this year that Phil Sherwen seems to be throwing his weight around over Phil Liggett ...


Paul Sherwen ;)
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:08 am

Squawk wrote:
devilsadvocate wrote:very interested to see how Cavendish deals with the hills. Cavendish is a freak, but I can't see him doing anything but scrape through in the uphill stages.

Finally, typical bloody Americans have ruined the telecast here in Canada by putting their own commentators in place who do nothing but make stupid captain obvious comments all show. Phil Liggett is in my opinion the BEST commentator in world sport in any discipline. Why would you not run with his comments?


Cavendish has pretty good climbing ability by all accounts and has just done the Giro I think, so he has miles in his legs.

You might be able to stream the Liggett commentary via the SBS website stream?

Interesting this year that Phil Sherwen seems to be throwing his weight around over Phil Liggett - keeps finding ways to point out Phil L has said something incorrect. Almost as if he is sick of reading out fact sheets about every castle and the local farmers in each of the departments making hay bale tributes... :lol: - has anyone else noticed this?


Seems I jumped the gun with sledging the yanks. Phil is commentating on the actual race. The yanks commentate on the highlights show.

Interesting developments with the breakaways towards the end of the stage. Michael Rodgers is moving right up and Lance is amazingly close to the overall lead.
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby Squawk » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:09 am

A stunning stage to watch. High Road Coloumbia obviously pre-planned the split. The commentators din't make anything of this, but at about 33km to go there was a cross road where the road split with a divider. When the 4 man breakaway went through the cameras were with them and they actually got a little confused but followed the leading car to the right. A few minutes later the same confusion happened in the peleton and Cancellara had to hop the divider in the road. HRC were all at the front and the big bunch of the peleton had to slow to deal with the confusion and it was strung out. Right then, HRC put their foot down and within 1km they had split the peleton in the crosswind and the switching, bending road. Cavendish was talking tactics with his team car a good 50km before this - and I think their plan was solidifed at that point because as a sprinter, he was there at the front when he had to be - and so were the other 8 HRC riders! Amazing stuff.
Cavendish first from Hushovd. The breakaway stole 40 seconds. Cancellara was there as was Armstrong, who moved up to third! Contador is now Armstrong's lacky/domestique for at least another 3 days until stage 7 Andorra/Barcelona! Evans missed the split, along with Contador, Sastre, Menchov and both the Schlecks - but Kim Kirchen was in the split! The Tour is suddenly alive with the TTT tomorrow. At only 39km, there wont be big time gaps between the leading teams, but clearly the top ones will be Astana, Saxo-Bank, Garmin-Slipstream and HRC. I don't hold any hope for Cadel's team Silence Lotto in the TTT - Cadel could lose another 1-2 minutes tomorrow.
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:25 am

Squawk wrote:A stunning stage to watch. High Road Coloumbia obviously pre-planned the split. The commentators din't make anything of this, but at about 33km to go there was a cross road where the road split with a divider. When the 4 man breakaway went through the cameras were with them and they actually got a little confused but followed the leading car to the right. A few minutes later the same confusion happened in the peleton and Cancellara had to hop the divider in the road. HRC were all at the front and the big bunch of the peleton had to slow to deal with the confusion and it was strung out. Right then, HRC put their foot down and within 1km they had split the peleton in the crosswind and the switching, bending road. Cavendish was talking tactics with his team car a good 50km before this - and I think their plan was solidifed at that point because as a sprinter, he was there at the front when he had to be - and so were the other 8 HRC riders! Amazing stuff.
Cavendish first from Hushovd. The breakaway stole 40 seconds. Cancellara was there as was Armstrong, who moved up to third! Contador is now Armstrong's lacky/domestique for at least another 3 days until stage 7 Andorra/Barcelona! Evans missed the split, along with Contador, Sastre, Menchov and both the Schlecks - but Kim Kirchen was in the split! The Tour is suddenly alive with the TTT tomorrow. At only 39km, there wont be big time gaps between the leading teams, but clearly the top ones will be Astana, Saxo-Bank, Garmin-Slipstream and HRC. I don't hold any hope for Cadel's team Silence Lotto in the TTT - Cadel could lose another 1-2 minutes tomorrow.


Well put.

I agree that Cadel may be in trouble tomorrow. Huge mistake by Cadel to miss the breakaway. The Schlecks will be kicking themselves too. Still Cadel will come into his own in the mountains.

Brilliant stuff by the Columbia team. They are so well organised. Hopefully Rodgers can stick with the Astana guys after tomorrows TTT and push his claim in the mountains. Make no mistake, he's a real good chance at winning the tour. Let's hope he stays on his bike the whole way this year!!!

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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:16 am

How good is Cavendish?

As long as Cadel can stick within 40 seconds of the leaders, he'll be right in the thick of it come the climbs.
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby dedja » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:44 am

I'm afraid Cadel (or more to the point his team for not being able to bridge the gap to the breakaway group) is in serious trouble now.

Long, long way to go, but there will be a few clackers tightening with the sight of LiveStrong at the top end of the field.

Tonight could be real ugly for Cadel unfortunately.
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:55 am

You're right about tonight.
Can't wait to watch it.
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:55 am

dedja wrote:I'm afraid Cadel (or more to the point his team for not being able to bridge the gap to the breakaway group) is in serious trouble now.

Long, long way to go, but there will be a few clackers tightening with the sight of LiveStrong at the top end of the field.

Tonight could be real ugly for Cadel unfortunately.


I wouldn't say serious trouble, but he could have definitely done with the 40 odd seconds gap he lost today going into the TTT tomorrow.

I'll go out on a limb and say he'll finish top 3 (barring an accident or technical disaster). Lets all remember too that Lance is 36.
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Re: Tour de France 2009

Postby Squawk » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:43 am

Astana won the team time trial.
Silence Lotto not even top 10 after a fall and a puncture cost them big time - Cadel must have lost 2 minutes out there today, putting him around 3 mins behind the mailot jeune.
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Astana now have 4 of the top 5 riders in the GC I think - Armstrong, Contador, Leipheimer and I think Kloden is in there too.
Menchov in just as much trouble as Evans but has a stronger climbing team so could pip Cadel in the GC also.
Rodgers probably Australia's best hope now and is a genuine top-10 prospect in the GC IMHO.
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