RD 6 Norwood v Centrals Review

[CK]

One final stat from the game: according to our ABC stats, Norwood's kick to handball ratio yesterday was 60.9%. It is normally 52.9% (for 2009)

Central's was 52.3%. It is normally 61.8% (for 2009)

[Gozu]

Excellent game of footy to watch. Bad luck to the gallant Legs. All I could hear in that final quarter was those brain damaged Centrals supporters and that excrutiating "UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Dogs".

[SABRE]

All in all, a great game to watch and credit to both teams.

Agreed.
But not according to GrahamL in his nasty, petty little post. If you believe him the Dogs played appalingly and Norwood just played OK.

We've come to expect that from Central supporters on this forum. Everything's about them.

If we were to use you as a guide to posts from all Norwood supporters, then we'd think all Redleg fans were bitter and twisted.

REB, AH, Topsy and I are not bitter and twisted !
They have been a great help to Boris, Igor & myself, deep under the Southern Stand
At Norwood. For weeks now we’ve been placing flab on the slab in the lab to make
our secret weapon. Just one more electrical storm should do it & true to his avatar,
REB is at the switch. Thanks to the bye we now have 2 weeks to perfect and unleash
our monster against Glenelg.
We thought all the ingredients for creating ‘the perfect footballer’ had worked during
the last storm, but the creature we created will only wear red with a white V and just
walks around the dungeon introducing himself as Barrie something.
ENOUGH !
Back to the lab. Buwwha ha ha ha!

[maccad]

To say that norwood only got close is because centrals played is a bit of disrespect to the opposition. You were making those mistakes because of the pressure that we applied after you got out to a 31 point lead. You can say that you took your foot of the pedal but have ever thought that maybe norwood actually played to some of it ability that was expected of them at the start of the year. You were having shots from wide angles because that was the space that was left for you to lead to.

[mal]

1ST HALF
Both sides brillaint attacking skillful footy
2ND HALF
Accountable footy, skill levels dropped as a result of extra pressure

1/2 way into 2nd qtr
CD 11-8
NW 7-1
CD played awesome footy

1/2 way into last qtr
CD 14-11
NW 17-4
NW played brillaint footy in that period

FINAL SCORE
CD 16-14
NW 17-6
CD a very very very very very good team stopped NW and kicked 2 late goals to win

SUMMARY
Magnificent exhibition of SANFL footy by CD AGAIN by NW on the day

LAIRDS AFTER MATCH INTERVIEW[as I remember it]
A he said he was disappointed
B said his team was unaccountable in the earlier parts of the game
C said CD have been disappointing the last few games at NW

MY SUMMARY ON LAIRDS COMMENTS
A how could he be disappointed, his houdinis did it again to win a loseable game
B unaccountable ??? they led by 31 points + looked sensational, it was NW s brilliant comeback not as much as any accountability
In fact the NW unaccountability in defence was a factor as well in the first half
C latest results at NW b4 this game CD V NW
2008 CD 13-8 NW 12-12
2007 CD 16-15 NW 8-12
2006 CD 23-11 NW 13-9
If I was coach I wouldnt be disappointed with those results ??????????????????????????????


WHAT LAIRD COULD HAVE SAID
" Its disappointing to be up by 31 points and get outplayed by the opposition."
" We did play well b4 NW came back at us."
" I was proud of the way our club was able to kick late goals and still win"
" We continued our winning form at this venue, its good to win away games."


THE LAST KICK
Saw it several times on video
Very close call
Irrespective of the decision on it being touched
It would be better to talk about Hardys sensational save
Airborne on a NW opponents body, pirrouhetted to touch the ball in mid air
And not interfere with the NW player by falling on him
Astounding effort.


Great game

[whufc]

I do agree with Lairdy when he says we haven't played very well at Norwood in the last few years. The results are a bit decieving we won one of those games by kicking a pile of goals in the last quarter. IIRC it was the 2006 game. Last year we played terrible but managed a great escape as well.

Also our accountability and work rate dropped significantly in the late 2nd quarter and all the third quarter. Norwood on many occasions had 2-3 players free in the center of the ground waiting to run the ball inside 50. Lairdy would not be happy with the work-rate of a few guys in that period where we lost control.

Good results not good performances.

[mal]

I do agree with Lairdy when he says we haven't played very well at Norwood in the last few years. The results are a bit decieving we won one of those games by kicking a pile of goals in the last quarter. IIRC it was the 2006 game. Last year we played terrible but managed a great escape as well.

Also our accountability and work rate dropped significantly in the late 2nd quarter and all the third quarter. Norwood on many occasions had 2-3 players free in the center of the ground waiting to run the ball inside 50. Lairdy would not be happy with the work-rate of a few guys in that period where we lost control.

Good results not good performances.

HILL could also say that too many CD players were unmanned as well in the first qtr and a half when CD went rampant thru the midfield ?????????????????????????????????

The sixth best performing club in the SANFL can on a given day play worse/same/better than the first best performing club ????????????????????????????????????????????

CD are the best club in the SANFL
BUT
They cant be winning every qtr every week every game
They are not always being slack unaccountable etc etc when being outscored
The other top 6 clubs can outplay them at times

[whufc]

I do agree with Lairdy when he says we haven't played very well at Norwood in the last few years. The results are a bit decieving we won one of those games by kicking a pile of goals in the last quarter. IIRC it was the 2006 game. Last year we played terrible but managed a great escape as well.

Also our accountability and work rate dropped significantly in the late 2nd quarter and all the third quarter. Norwood on many occasions had 2-3 players free in the center of the ground waiting to run the ball inside 50. Lairdy would not be happy with the work-rate of a few guys in that period where we lost control.

Good results not good performances.

HILL could also say that too many CD players were unmanned as well in the first qtr and a half when CD went rampant thru the midfield ?????????????????????????????????

The sixth best performing club in the SANFL can on a given day play worse/same/better than the first best performing club ????????????????????????????????????????????

CD are the best club in the SANFL
BUT
They cant be winning every qtr every week every game
They are not always being slack unaccountable etc etc when being outscored
The other top 6 clubs can outplay them at times

Totally agree, but i do think that Norwoods comeback was because a few Dogs players in the midfield did become very very very lazy with their work rate, decision making and skill level.
Full credit to Norwood though who threw great skills, work rate and accuarcy were able to take advantage of the Dogs laziness. IMHO

[Dogwatcher]

I do agree with Lairdy when he says we haven't played very well at Norwood in the last few years. The results are a bit decieving we won one of those games by kicking a pile of goals in the last quarter. IIRC it was the 2006 game. Last year we played terrible but managed a great escape as well.

I was going to mention the same points WHUFC.
I was at that 06 game and by memory we kicked 11 in the last term after the Redlegs had led by as much as four goals throughout the night.
Was an amazing performance.
Put the last four wins into context there and two were come from behind and the third (yesterday) was a close one.

[redandblack]

It had more to do with Norwood playing good footy than anything else.

All sides have down periods when the opposition get a run on.

[dogs01]

It had more to do with Norwood playing good footy than anything else.

All sides have down periods when the opposition get a run on.

I dont think it matters who played well, both sides had moments to win it and lose it. The dogs just had their chance to win it or lose it with seconds to go.
As i heard Rex hunt say on the way home about the hawthorn carlton game, you could also interperate as this game, he said "good sides win close games."

Does a 1 point loss feel better than a 10 goal loss?

[Big Phil]

Andy Lee from Norwood was on special comments with LifeFM's call of North v Eagles today and he said that he was pretty sure the ball was touched on the line by Justin Hardy as did Brett Zorzi on the 5AA SANFL show tonight...

[whufc]

I said to my mate last night that if in January you told me by round 6 that Barmby, Dunne, Giles, Spurr and Jenner had all played at least 2 league games and Cochrane and Hayes haven't played a game, what do you think our record would stand at.

I would have said 2-3 maybe 3-2 at a stretch. So to be sitting top at 5-0 is a great effort and getting game time into these young lads will be extremely valuable come finals time.

This squad is starting to take it's own shape with the likes of O'Hara, Williams and M.Westoff playing crucial roles and stepping up beautifully.

[mal]

LAIRD = slowcoach ?
Last week he waited too long b4 putting Havelberg to full forward
Saturday he waited too long b4 putting Spurr up deep forward ...

[JK]

Andy Lee from Norwood was on special comments with LifeFM's call of North v Eagles today and he said that he was pretty sure the ball was touched on the line by Justin Hardy as did Brett Zorzi on the 5AA SANFL show tonight...

I dont think that's really an issue anyway Phil (I know you're not saying it is) ... There are so many moments in a game where it is one or lost, to isolate just 1 is folly.

As a poster said above, good sides win close games .. It's just that whole belief and experience thing, the Doggies just know how to get a win (and believe they're going to get it) and Norwood need to learn that as Im sure many other teams do.

IF (hate using that word) Norwood can maintain that form and even enhance it, we should be able to compete with any team going around.

Anyone else think young O'Hara has a touch of Didak at the same age about him?

[whufc]

Andy Lee from Norwood was on special comments with LifeFM's call of North v Eagles today and he said that he was pretty sure the ball was touched on the line by Justin Hardy as did Brett Zorzi on the 5AA SANFL show tonight...

I dont think that's really an issue anyway Phil (I know you're not saying it is) ... There are so many moments in a game where it is one or lost, to isolate just 1 is folly.

As a poster said above, good sides win close games .. It's just that whole belief and experience thing, the Doggies just know how to get a win (and believe they're going to get it) and Norwood need to learn that as Im sure many other teams do.

IF (hate using that word) Norwood can maintain that form and even enhance it, we should be able to compete with any team going around.

Anyone else think young O'Hara has a touch of Didak at the same age about him?

good call about O'Hara

[Brucetiki]

I do agree with Lairdy when he says we haven't played very well at Norwood in the last few years. The results are a bit decieving we won one of those games by kicking a pile of goals in the last quarter. IIRC it was the 2006 game. Last year we played terrible but managed a great escape as well.

I was at that 06 game and by memory we kicked 11 in the last term after the Redlegs had led by as much as four goals throughout the night.
Was an amazing performance.

That was the first game we played at Coopers in 2007 (we played twice there in 07, like this year). 2006 was the sirengate game.

[Dogwatcher]

You're right Bruce, cheers.
I had an inkling 06 may have been too early for that game.

[Grahaml]

You can all bleat about how well Norwood played, and perhaps they did play well by their standard. But I'll tell you 100% we were pretty average. We were miles away from what we should be. Pressure might account for some mistakes, but missing targets as badly as we did shouldn't have happened whatever pressure they were under at the time. Often turnovers occurred from players in the clear handballing at the feet or behind the target. I've seen a lot of Centrals games in the last few years, I dare say more than any non CDFC fan, and probably about as many as even the dogs fans on here. And we clearly have played and can play better. I'm not worried about it because I'm focussed on getting the points to finish top 3 and be in full form come finals time. Dropping a tight game at Norwood isn't going to ruin our season. But the fact remains we were poor, and Laird was dead right. Mal might prefer him to stick to the AFL script but we do things differently at centrals, and Laird has coached a few more SANFL flags than Mal. And anyone who doubts that is simply wrong. Having said that, if Norwood fans feel disappointed we aren't heaping praise on their team for being so gallant, well perhaps you might take a second to think perhaps we weren't that great, yet still good enough to win. If you honestly think norwood were any better than just ok then you have a long season ahead of you, because your side WILL have to improve a lot to win the flag. We will be better, and if nobody can match the level we go to then we will win it. Perhaps though, another side will end up being even better than us and you will have to improve even more. If you don't like a bit of honesty, then toughen up or follow another sport.

[sjt]

Andy Lee from Norwood was on special comments with LifeFM's call of North v Eagles today and he said that he was pretty sure the ball was touched on the line by Justin Hardy as did Brett Zorzi on the 5AA SANFL show tonight...

I dont think that's really an issue anyway Phil (I know you're not saying it is) ... There are so many moments in a game where it is one or lost, to isolate just 1 is folly.

As a poster said above, good sides win close games .. It's just that whole belief and experience thing, the Doggies just know how to get a win (and believe they're going to get it) and Norwood need to learn that as Im sure many other teams do.

IF (hate using that word) Norwood can maintain that form and even enhance it, we should be able to compete with any team going around.

Anyone else think young O'Hara has a touch of Didak at the same age about him?

Spot on re O'Hara. Also in the GF I don't think he missed a target, other than one shot on goal.
Re what Laird said. He said a lot, which I think was right. Didn't Hill say he thought Norwood lost it rather than Centrals winning it ? Anyway a good competitive game. Norwood are looking dangerous.