Coaches out of contract at end of season

[Hondo]

There are 7 (salaries taken straight from this article: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25277752-19742,00.html)

- Malthouse (Collingwood) $900,000
- Williams (Port) $600,000
- Laidley (NM) $475,000
- Thompson (Geelong) $650,000
- Wallace (Richmond) $525,000
- Worsfold (West Coast) $650,000
- Eade (Bulldogs) $600,000

Some seem more in the hot seat than others, one is rumoured to be unlikely to finish the season, and some seem safe for an extension. You could raise an argument that all of them are in the hot seat (altho it seems a harsh board that would hang Bomber based on the 2008 GF - but if they don't win this year who knows?).

It's a lot of vacancies at the one time so there'll be pressure on Boards to make decisions mid season I presume. Who's under the pump? Who's not?

[Dirko]

IIR Laidley has something in his contract that stipulates that his renewal has to be done by Round 15 or it's adios....

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- Thompson (Geelong) $650,000

How long is it that now that Bomber has been at Geelong now?
Apparently he was _ that close to getting the flick during the big end of 2006 season review. If they can gave him another shot after a year like that, I think the only way you would see Bomber being sacked is if Geelong don't make the Prelims? Even that would seem a little harsh, as you would expect Geelong to make the GF, with the only thing that could slow them would be injuries?

[Booney]

- Malthouse (Collingwood) $900,000 --- Only a Gf will save him from Bucks taking his seat
- Williams (Port) $600,000 --- With a favourable draw in the first half of the year an extension of 1 year is on the cards.
- Laidley (NM) $475,000 --- Finals will give him another year, but no finals? Still one more year IMO
- Thompson (Geelong) $650,000 --- Safe as houses
- Wallace (Richmond) $525,000 --- Finals will give him another year,no finals he is goneski
- Worsfold (West Coast) $650,000 --- Safe as a Premiership coach who is now rebuilding
- Eade (Bulldogs) $600,000 --- Gone,gone,gone. No Premierships and not the squad to do it this year.I was going to call him over rated,but does any one rate him?

Will Roos grow tired like his playing group has?

[JK]

Pretty fair assessments there Booney, although I reckon the only way the Doggies would flick Rocket is if they didn't make the 8, and that aint gonna happen.

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-- Laidley (NM) $475,000 --- Finals will give him another year, but no finals? Still one more year IMO

I agree with this - Laidley has taken the Roos to the finals over the last few years, with a list that everyone has never rated as finals bound. If they don't make the 8, I think he'll still be retained. However, I beleieve the Roos will make the 8 once again this year, in around about position 6th-8th.

The Roos have never really "bottomed out" as such and had the luxury of snaring high draft picks like say, Carlton & Hawthorn before them, who have leap frogged them over the past couple of seasons. I guess consistently finishing somewhere between 6th-12th and sometimes a little highter, isn't really conducive to picking up the best new young talents on your list.

[Hondo]

As much as I don't like the Western Bulldogs I think they are the (groan-insert cliche) "real deal" this year. They aren't as good as Hawthorn or Geelong but good enough for top 4 again IMO. So that would get Eade his extension. They have a lot of quality players running through their defence and midfield.

[Booney]

I dont think the Douggies have the cattle up front to beat the new "rolling zone's" which appear to be brought undone by marking key forwards who are now once again becoming one on one targets.

Dogs to finish 5-8th for me.

[Rik E Boy]

I think you are underestimating the Dogs and Eade Booney. They'll go pretty close to top four. My original tip was 5th. I reckon Eade is quite a clever coach and if he is gone gone gone it might because another club with more money might try and snaffle him.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

- Thompson (Geelong) $650,000

How long is it that now that Bomber has been at Geelong now?
Apparently he was _ that close to getting the flick during the big end of 2006 season review. If they can gave him another shot after a year like that, I think the only way you would see Bomber being sacked is if Geelong don't make the Prelims? Even that would seem a little harsh, as you would expect Geelong to make the GF, with the only thing that could slow them would be injuries?

Bomber has been at Geelong since 2000. Despite the flag, I still don't really rate him as a match day coach. If we had Clarko we would be unbeatable.

regards,

REB

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Bomber has been at Geelong since 2000. Despite the flag, I still don't really rate him as a match day coach. If we had Clarko we would be unbeatable.

Wow, since 2000! I would have said 2002 or '03 if someone had asked me straight out. He definitely would have been gone if Geelong hadn't gone all the way in '07!

This exactly mirrors what I think too REB - but didn't post it for fear of retribution from Geelong fans such as yourself, who might have seen the post as trolling!

I just don't think Bomber has the match day nous that is required. Bomber is too slow to react and I don't think he commands the respect from his players that someone like Clarkson does for his chargers. Geelong's recent success can be largely contributed to the recruitment staff, more so than Bomber.

[westozfalcon]

I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens with Worsfold and the Eagles.

The fact that he's a favourite son of the club gives Woosha a few extra credit points but IMO the Eagles would have to win about 7 games this year as well as avoiding big home defeats like they had last season for him to stay on.

[Pup]

I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens with Worsfold and the Eagles.

The fact that he's a favourite son of the club gives Woosha a few extra credit points but IMO the Eagles would have to win about 7 games this year as well as avoiding big home defeats like they had last season for him to stay on.

Exactly

He is not as safe as many people think. Had one horror year with injuries but there has always been queries about his tactics and his stubborness in the coaches box. My gut feeling is that WCE will have a solid year without being outstanding and he will get his contract re-newed but who knows. I think there are much better coaches tactically out there.

[Rik E Boy]

Woosha is one of the biggest duds in the league. Imagine resting Glass when he was killing Rocca during that final. They should have given him the Rs for that move alone. Diabolical!

regards,

REB

[Dutchy]

-- Laidley (NM) $475,000 --- Finals will give him another year, but no finals? Still one more year IMO

I agree with this - Laidley has taken the Roos to the finals over the last few years, with a list that everyone has never rated as finals bound. If they don't make the 8, I think he'll still be retained. However, I beleieve the Roos will make the 8 once again this year, in around about position 6th-8th.

The Roos have never really "bottomed out" as such and had the luxury of snaring high draft picks like say, Carlton & Hawthorn before them, who have leap frogged them over the past couple of seasons. I guess consistently finishing somewhere between 6th-12th and sometimes a little highter, isn't really conducive to picking up the best new young talents on your list.

Spot on blink well said...Roos have been a victim of their own success

For the record I believe the Bullies are CLEARLY the 3rd best team in the comp and on their day could beat the Cats and Hawks, all their gun players are at the right age physically and mentally to be a huge threat this year

[Zorro]

Bomber has been at Geelong since 2000. Despite the flag, I still don't really rate him as a match day coach. If we had Clarko we would be unbeatable.

Wow, since 2000! I would have said 2002 or '03 if someone had asked me straight out. He definitely would have been gone if Geelong hadn't gone all the way in '07!

This exactly mirrors what I think too REB - but didn't post it for fear of retribution from Geelong fans such as yourself, who might have seen the post as trolling!

I just don't think Bomber has the match day nous that is required. Bomber is too slow to react and I don't think he commands the respect from his players that someone like Clarkson does for his chargers. Geelong's recent success can be largely contributed to the recruitment staff, more so than Bomber.

Largely contributed to the father-son rule you mean.....

[Pag]

-- Laidley (NM) $475,000 --- Finals will give him another year, but no finals? Still one more year IMO

I agree with this - Laidley has taken the Roos to the finals over the last few years, with a list that everyone has never rated as finals bound. If they don't make the 8, I think he'll still be retained. However, I beleieve the Roos will make the 8 once again this year, in around about position 6th-8th.

The Roos have never really "bottomed out" as such and had the luxury of snaring high draft picks like say, Carlton & Hawthorn before them, who have leap frogged them over the past couple of seasons. I guess consistently finishing somewhere between 6th-12th and sometimes a little highter, isn't really conducive to picking up the best new young talents on your list.

Spot on blink well said...Roos have been a victim of their own success

If the Roos finish mid-table again this year and Laidley and the football department have to make the call and agree to move a lot of blokes on. They're not going to win a premiership doing what they're doing at the moment, they need to head south on the ladder for a few years to be able to head a long way north. Whether this is too big of a financial risk for them I'm not sure, but it needs to happen if they want another premiership within the next 10 years.

[Dutchy]

-- Laidley (NM) $475,000 --- Finals will give him another year, but no finals? Still one more year IMO

I agree with this - Laidley has taken the Roos to the finals over the last few years, with a list that everyone has never rated as finals bound. If they don't make the 8, I think he'll still be retained. However, I beleieve the Roos will make the 8 once again this year, in around about position 6th-8th.

The Roos have never really "bottomed out" as such and had the luxury of snaring high draft picks like say, Carlton & Hawthorn before them, who have leap frogged them over the past couple of seasons. I guess consistently finishing somewhere between 6th-12th and sometimes a little highter, isn't really conducive to picking up the best new young talents on your list.

Spot on blink well said...Roos have been a victim of their own success

If the Roos finish mid-table again this year and Laidley and the football department have to make the call and agree to move a lot of blokes on. They're not going to win a premiership doing what they're doing at the moment, they need to head south on the ladder for a few years to be able to head a long way north. Whether this is too big of a financial risk for them I'm not sure, but it needs to happen if they want another premiership within the next 10 years.

They already have one of the youngest lists in the AFL!!!

[Rik E Boy]

Bomber has been at Geelong since 2000. Despite the flag, I still don't really rate him as a match day coach. If we had Clarko we would be unbeatable.

Wow, since 2000! I would have said 2002 or '03 if someone had asked me straight out. He definitely would have been gone if Geelong hadn't gone all the way in '07!

This exactly mirrors what I think too REB - but didn't post it for fear of retribution from Geelong fans such as yourself, who might have seen the post as trolling!

I just don't think Bomber has the match day nous that is required. Bomber is too slow to react and I don't think he commands the respect from his players that someone like Clarkson does for his chargers. Geelong's recent success can be largely contributed to the recruitment staff, more so than Bomber.

Largely contributed to the father-son rule you mean.....

Scarlo and Ablett are guns this is true but when Scarlo played his first match he had eight goals kicked on him. My understanding of the current rule is that if we wanted a father son today we would have to give up a draft pick or something like that to get him if another club wanted that player (not certain of the rule). When Scarlo started he looked anything but a champion fullback and there wasn't a lot of fanfare surrounding his debut.

Obviously Ablett was always going to be a gun but let's have a look at some of our other father sons. Hawkins still hasn't arrived, Blake is treading water, Woolnough played two games before stuffing up his knees and Nathan Ablett couldn't be arsed.

Three of our premiership players were father sons. Here are some players you might just have heard of Joel Corey, Brad Ottens, Cameron Mooney, Steve Johnson, Darren Milburn, Cameron Ling, James Kelly, Jimmy Bartel, Tom Harley, Max Rooke, Andrew Mackie...not a father son to be seen. Next time try reading the full article instead of the gloop that get served up in the headline.

TRY AGAIN.

regards,

REB

[Zorro]

Bomber has been at Geelong since 2000. Despite the flag, I still don't really rate him as a match day coach. If we had Clarko we would be unbeatable.

Wow, since 2000! I would have said 2002 or '03 if someone had asked me straight out. He definitely would have been gone if Geelong hadn't gone all the way in '07!

This exactly mirrors what I think too REB - but didn't post it for fear of retribution from Geelong fans such as yourself, who might have seen the post as trolling!

I just don't think Bomber has the match day nous that is required. Bomber is too slow to react and I don't think he commands the respect from his players that someone like Clarkson does for his chargers. Geelong's recent success can be largely contributed to the recruitment staff, more so than Bomber.

Largely contributed to the father-son rule you mean.....

Scarlo and Ablett are guns this is true but when Scarlo played his first match he had eight goals kicked on him. My understanding of the current rule is that if we wanted a father son today we would have to give up a draft pick or something like that to get him if another club wanted that player (not certain of the rule). When Scarlo started he looked anything but a champion fullback and there wasn't a lot of fanfare surrounding his debut.

Obviously Ablett was always going to be a gun but let's have a look at some of our other father sons. Hawkins still hasn't arrived, Blake is treading water, Woolnough played two games before stuffing up his knees and Nathan Ablett couldn't be arsed.

Three of our premiership players were father sons. Here are some players you might just have heard of Joel Corey, Brad Ottens, Cameron Mooney, Steve Johnson, Darren Milburn, Cameron Ling, James Kelly, Jimmy Bartel, Tom Harley, Max Rooke, Andrew Mackie...not a father son to be seen. Next time try reading the full article instead of the gloop that get served up in the headline.

TRY AGAIN.

regards,

REB

Perhaps we need to insert an emoticon for 'tounge in cheek', but thanks for taking the time to respond REB.